In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:06 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Welp, its nice to see that at least somewhere on r.r.a... that people
can seperate their disagreements from their hatreds. But several
years ago, it really didn't look that way.

Now if we could get YOU to seperate your fantasies from what really
happened....

So, was there a lot of gunfire and gore in all your "hostile actions?"

Was J.Lo any good at begging? How was she?

Did nursie sign into the RRAPnet at 9 PM eastern? No? Got your
code key hand battered doing all that "public service work?"

Did you "tune your frequency so carefully that you 'deserve' that
extra class"? Missed them, ey? Too bad.

No problem. You've got all those "credentials" and "awards" and
your full "honorable" service record to fall back on...

Still off the meds, huh? Not good.

LHA / WMD

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Now show us your logs on working Rob Vincent in RI on one of
the URI micro-antennas.

Remember...No proof = Doesn't exist.



Steve. What a "losser." I'll "crap" my hands when he stops posting

Is that as opposed as to posting your crap with your hands, Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, if you don't like me giving you crap, stop posting such stupid
things as, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:06 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Welp, its nice to see that at least somewhere on r.r.a... that people
can seperate their disagreements from their hatreds. But several
years ago, it really didn't look that way.

Now if we could get YOU to seperate your fantasies from what really
happened....

Steve, K4YZ

I lived it, and you didn't. Got the medal.

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

Now show us your logs on working Rob Vincent in RI on one of
the URI micro-antennas.

Remember...No proof = Doesn't exist.



Steve. What a "losser." I'll "crap" my hands when he stops posting

Is that as opposed as to posting your crap with your hands, Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, if you don't like me giving you crap, stop posting such stupid
things as, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 12:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Steve, if you don't like me giving you crap, stop posting such stupid
things as, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

I haven't stated that in weeks, Brain. You have, however... Dozens of
times.

You've repeated it over and over despite the fact that I acknowledged it
was poorly worded, and have explained my intent.

That you won't acknowledge that and move on is evidence that this is ALL
you have to try and deflect attention from your every expanding list of NG faux
pax.

It's apparent that this is ALL you have to "argue" about, Brain.

Sucks to be you, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 12:54 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:06 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Welp, its nice to see that at least somewhere on r.r.a... that people
can seperate their disagreements from their hatreds. But several
years ago, it really didn't look that way.

Now if we could get YOU to seperate your fantasies from what really
happened....

Steve, K4YZ

I lived it, and you didn't. Got the medal.

Congratulations. You were in-theater. That still does NOT prove ANY
authorized Amateur operation from T5 occured.

I could "claim" operation from TA, 9K, HZ, DU, HR, VP2, VE, SU and several
other places if the criteria was just having set foot on thier territorial
grounds at least once.

No Proof = Didn't happen.

Steve, K4YZ

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

It's another "crossed fields antenna" type heap of nonsense which
defies both Physics 101 and common sense.

Maybe - or maybe not.

Fact is that without more info we're not in a position to judge the
thing one way or another. Maybe it's a breakthrough, maybe it's one of
things that is great in theory but totally impractical, or maybe it's
a dud. Without more info, any judgement is just raw speculation. And
since a patent application is involved we're not going to see much
real data for a while anyway.

One point to watch for, though: What matters in practical antennas is
the performance of the entire antenna system, not just the antenna
itself. For example, a short (in terms of wavelength) whip antenna can
be quite efficient - it's the matching network and ground system
losses that reduce antenna system efficiency, and bandwidth, to low
numbers.

Physics is physics is physics and we all know the implications of
short antennas *and* we've read the similar hype which surrounded the
farcical CFA and EH antennas to name just a couple of this thing's
predecessors. I'll stick with my "snap judgement", the thing is guilty
until proven innocent.

Maybe. Or maybe it's for-real.

Without detailed info it's all academic anyway.

But I remember a time when it was said that "physics" would not permit
microprocessors faster than about 25 MHz. Nor with more than a few thousand
transistors. Etc.

Had nothing to do with "physics", had to do with musings posted by a
few gloms who were clueless about how rapidly developed chip
manufacturing technologies could leap past the limits of their own
imaginations. Hoof. Mouf. Classic.

Holy Cow! PCTA refer to backward thinking people as "gloms."

From this point forward, I must refer to PCTA as "CW Gloms."

There was also a very learned "professional in radio" who, when informed of the
intent of the 1921 ARRL Transatlantic Tests, proclaimed that it was physically
impossible for a kilowatt input 200 meter transmitter to be heard at that
distance. Waves were just too short, doncha know. Physics wouldn't allow it.

This is not 1921.

As Len Anderson has pointed out repeatedly. But you didn't need him
to point that out. You could see it published on the front page of
any daily newspaper. Even the ARRL puts it on the front cover of QST,
just prior to launching another edition of memory lane.

83 years later the physics of antennas has been
milked to the extent that the probability of anybody inventing an
antenna which does not utilize long-applied physics lies somewhere
'way out the asymptote of the curve.

Are you sure it's not back at the inflection point?

Per previous I'll stick.

Ditto my opinion of the CW Gloms (previously known as PCTA).

http://www.opengroup.com/hubooks/089/0898048044.shtml

Cheers.

Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (Brian Kelly)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:47 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


http://www.opengroup.com/hubooks/089/0898048044.shtml

Dang near choked to death laughing, Brian! WTG! I am half tempted to just
splurge and get a copy mailed to You-Know-Who and his trusty sidekick,
PuppetBoy!

73

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...

I could "claim" operation from TA, 9K, HZ, DU, HR, VP2, VE, SU and several
other places if the criteria was just having set foot on thier territorial
grounds at least once.

What if the criteria were "set foot on their territorial grounds *and*
made at least one QSO on a ham band"?

Note that the criteria doesn't specify *which* ham band, mode,
distance, rig, antenna, etc. Nor does it specify accordance with any
regulations, agreements or nongovernment criteria. Just "I was there,
and I made at least one ham band QSO"

Wouldn't that count as "operation"?

A logbook with only one entry is still a logbook, isn't it?

73 de Jim, N2EY

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: So Much For THAT Rant....
From: (Brian Kelly)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:47 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


http://www.opengroup.com/hubooks/089/0898048044.shtml

Dang near choked to death laughing, Brian! WTG! I am half tempted to just
splurge and get a copy mailed to You-Know-Who and his trusty sidekick,
PuppetBoy!

I think it was Hans who used it here originally some time ago. I knew
the Putzlet would eventually provide me an appropriate opportunity to
turn it loose on him so I bookmarked it. He did so I did.



73

Steve, K4YZ

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