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22 Davis Hall, 10 Lippitt Road, Kingston, RI 02881 Phone: 401-874-2116 Fax: 401-874-7872 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ URI physics employee invents new antenna technology Media Contact: Jan Wenzel, 401-874-2116 KINGSTON, R.I. -- June 2, 2004 -- Rob Vincent, an employee in the University of Rhode Island’s Physics Department, proves the adage that necessity is the mother of invention. An amateur radio operator since he was 14...(SNIP) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Guess we can forget the "Hams don't contibute to the "advancement of the radio art" rant...Eh...?!?! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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![]() "Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message ... Department of Communications/News Bureau 22 Davis Hall, 10 Lippitt Road, Kingston, RI 02881 Phone: 401-874-2116 Fax: 401-874-7872 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ URI physics employee invents new antenna technology Media Contact: Jan Wenzel, 401-874-2116 KINGSTON, R.I. -- June 2, 2004 -- Rob Vincent, an employee in the University of Rhode Island's Physics Department, proves the adage that necessity is the mother of invention. An amateur radio operator since he was 14...(SNIP) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Guess we can forget the "Hams don't contibute to the "advancement of the radio art" rant...Eh...?!?! 73 Steve, K4YZ Hello, Steve Most folks that invent or discover something are doing something they enjoy. We can likely look at almost anything and most folks are having fun and only a few are actually "inventing" something. Of course, it is totally ignorant to assume than no ham is doing anything constructive any more than it would be to assume that no NASCAR racer, or baseball player, or any other person in a given field is "doing" anything ![]() Best regards from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 6/2/04 |
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Hello, Len
I won't even go into the MARS is amateur radio since you won't find their signals inside of any amateur band (at least I don't think so, but I am not very familiar with Military Affiliate Radio Station). The gentleman in question with the antenna may well have been professional; my point is that most inventors are doing something they enjoy. Come to think of it, how many folks are continually involved in something they *don't* like? As far as small antennas, we know that magnetic monopoles (loops) are quite efficient. If very small, the conductor must be quite large as there will be large circulating currents (and this also puts demands on the capacitor). Generally, it has been difficult to make a *very* small loop efficient simply due to IR losses; however, loops can be quite small compared to a half-wave dipole and still run at 90% efficiency. What with the crossed-field antenna, e-h antenna, fractal antenna, and more, I'm interested in finding out what this guy has. What I'd love is a 6 inch antenna that is 90% efficient with a 1.1 SWR on 160 meters on up. LOL, wouldn't we all? Of course, even if we had such a beast, we must remember that where the thing is mounted (height, in terms of wavelength) will likely affect its' performance considerably. The ground type also comes into play. Come to think of it, there were some arguements over the published "efficiency" of the cross-field antennas at one point too. Of course, this particular newsgroup is not really the place to discuss antennas; I'd just like something beyond the code vs no code arguements and the flame wars. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release Date: 6/4/04 |
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In article , "Jim Hampton"
writes: Hello, Len I won't even go into the MARS is amateur radio since you won't find their signals inside of any amateur band (at least I don't think so, but I am not very familiar with Military Affiliate Radio Station). Military Affiliate Radio SYSTEM... :-) The gentleman in question with the antenna may well have been professional; my point is that most inventors are doing something they enjoy. Come to think of it, how many folks are continually involved in something they *don't* like? Irrelevant. Another stressed that the "invention" was because of his being a radio amateur. Solely so, so much that nearly all of the URI news release was omitted. There have been TWO significant amateur radio related inventions (or innovations, the line is blurred in reality) in Dan Tayloe's unique CMOS switch mixer which is capable of making a direct- conversion receiver for a sensitive QRP rig that receives either on-off keyed telegraphy signals or SSB signals...and the several who publicized the relatively-easy-to-make crystal filter using only matched-measured individual quartz crystal resonators (which may have been unpatented trade secrets in the relatively small crystal filter biz). For everything else in hardware, the radio world came up with it and used it in commercial-military equipment and also in some of the amateur radio stuff. It's fun and personally satisfying to receive a piece of paper saying one is an inventor. Nice brag item for those not in the biz. :-) However, being one (an inventor that is) is not a guarantor of big smarts or of the guru-dom since a lot of really weird (and usually unworkable) stuff has been patented. Besides that, in electronics, the patent search costs are rather stiff on the order of 6 grand average and may wind up showing that someone else invented the whatever the inventor is trying to patent. Patent searches are NOT a part of the patent office but the office requires some sort of showing...if you want the patent within 6 or so years from now. Mine is U.S. number 3,848,191, granted in 1974 and assigned to RCA Corporation. The only reasons that RCA bothered with the patent at all a (1) RCA began in the radio-electronics business to keep "radio" patents in the USA back in the late 1920s; (2) My project group was on a company-funded R&D program at the time with some potential for the Corporation. At least a dozen patents were granted out of that one project, an aircraft collision avoidance system. Most corporations simply don't bother with the patent work since radio-electronics is still on such an up-slope of changing state of the art that a typical 2 or 3 year wait for a grant plus another year to arrange rights, etc., may not be worth the cost. Industry makes do with the "trade secret" policy and, if someone copies an un- patented thingy, will go to the attorneys and their expensive billing at that time. Also, in a typical HF transceiver of today, there may be as many as a hundred different patents applying to the circuitry and subsystems and keeping all that straight requires more personpower on the payroll to keep track of which patent is still in force and which has lapsed. As far as small antennas, we know that magnetic monopoles (loops) are quite efficient. If very small, the conductor must be quite large as there will be large circulating currents (and this also puts demands on the capacitor). Generally, it has been difficult to make a *very* small loop efficient simply due to IR losses; however, loops can be quite small compared to a half-wave dipole and still run at 90% efficiency. A wideband, two-mast HF antenna has already been developed for the U.S. Navy, extensively measured, plotted, etc. There's a paper on it in PDF floating around. I downloaded it about a year or so ago out of curiosity. Covers the whole HF territory...but does need an antenna tuner to maximize RF power into the antenna. [getting as much RF as possible INTO the antenna is the REAL "efficiency"] You've still got Maxwell's Equations to contend with and the fact that the antenna size and pattern will determine how much signal gets to a far, far-field receiver. Most of the other propaganda on antennas is mostly BS to convince others to buy a product. If the U.S. military wants to use HF in the field, the standard little 20 W RF out AN/PRC-104 is good for it. ONE whip plus an internal automatic antenna tuner is good enough there, has been since before 1986. SSB with synthesized tuning, no-sweat use. [it could do on-off keying CW but the military don' do dat no more] What with the crossed-field antenna, e-h antenna, fractal antenna, and more, I'm interested in finding out what this guy has. What I'd love is a 6 inch antenna that is 90% efficient with a 1.1 SWR on 160 meters on up. LOL, wouldn't we all? Of course, even if we had such a beast, we must remember that where the thing is mounted (height, in terms of wavelength) will likely affect its' performance considerably. The ground type also comes into play. Come to think of it, there were some arguements over the published "efficiency" of the cross-field antennas at one point too. Back around 1960 (give or take a couple), Northrup Corporation came out with the DDRR (Directional Discontinuity Ring Radiator). Was ideal for limited bandwidth, VERY small size v. wavelength provided there was a handy conductive ground plane the ring was mounted above. In terms of "effective antenna area" it wasn't too swift but you could make it within 25 foot circle or so just a couple feet above the ground plane at 3 MHz. Omnidirectional. The Discone had already been invented in 1960 and the log- periodic was close on its heels. Muy wideband, great for those who needed almost-instant QSYs anywhere in VHF-UHF (discone) or HF (log-periodic)...like military folks. The software to simulate an antenna structure and to analyze it for 3D pattern, gain, impedance, etc., came out courtesy of the Navy again...the Numerical Electromagnetic Code or NEC. Free for anyone to use but commercial software houses write their own softstuff to display patterns, etc., all based on the free NEC kernel. Roy Lewallen, a long-time ham, does this with EZNEC. Anyone can find out more about antennas and NEC packages at website Antennex. Interesting stuff even if some of it looks like Chalabi's electronic brother is putting stuff over on everyone. :-) However, there are thousands of little PR pieces put out as "news releases" each year in the overall electronics industry. They have a terrible sameness about them...like literary con-jobs. Whatever they tout has got to be the "most" the "best" the "wonderful new" the "new concept" or other BS which usually doesn't mean squat. Those "news releases" are just come-ons to get folks to investigate and see products or (in the case of universities) people. The Nobel Prize committee isn't going to be swayed by those things. Of course, this particular newsgroup is not really the place to discuss antennas; I'd just like something beyond the code vs no code arguements and the flame wars. Some folks have no real interest in anything BUT flaming. Whatever the general newsgroup topic line is is just used for them to express their anger, frustration, or whatever they gots inside to relieve them- selves (both psychologically and physiologically as in waste relief). Those will try to monopolize a particular thread and bring it up (as in vomitus interruptus) in other threads as well. They like the noteriety, apparently. The newsgroup focus could be anything and they would get angry and abusive over anyone daring to defy them with some opposite viewpoint. That happened way back on ARPANET, then USENET (that came after ARPANET), branched over to BBS networks, and finally on the Internet. Seen it all for three decades. Some of it is funny, most of it is tragic with all the self-pitying and so-called psychological trauma of the angry and irritated who are very busy abusing others. shrug Way of life in all computer-modem communications that isn't fully monitored and moderated 24/7. "Mankind invented language to satisfy his need to complain!" - anon. :-) |
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , "Jim Hampton" writes: The gentleman in question with the antenna may well have been professional; my point is that most inventors are doing something they enjoy. Come to think of it, how many folks are continually involved in something they *don't* like? Irrelevant. Another stressed that the "invention" was because of his being a radio amateur. Solely so, so much that nearly all of the URI news release was omitted. The rest of the post was irrelevent since the antenna itself was not of importance. Oh, my! There was no rant, and the invention/patent is not of importance. So what we have is is a lie wrapped up in a lack of judgement. Exactly why did you post anything at all except to troll and flame? What WAS of importance was that a non-Amateur Radio media source felt compelled to mention, early on I might add, that the person responsible for this project was a licensed Amateur. People everywhere lack judgement, including those in media. Bless your heart, you're not alone. The POINT being that Sir Scummy of Lanark was once again proven wrong... Wrong? I saw him make no "assertion of fact" for you to refute, and the only ranting is your own. Amateurs ARE still involved in "advancement of the radio art", and someone felt stongly enouhg about it to emphasize it in a news release. What are you doing in "state of the art?" Bandspanner? Lennie often raves in this forum about how Amateurs don't do this kind of thing. They do it first as paid employees of someone else. They just happen to be amateurs. And of course he can't stand it and will spin this into the ground. You're doing a good enough job of that. Too late. The egg's already been cracked and he's wearing it. Insanity. There was no rant, and then you claim the invention was of no importance. You're wearing the egg. Sorry Lennie. Proven wrong by example again. In another galaxy far, far away... "MARS IS Amateur Radio." hihi |
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