In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Putzcussionist of the Rock-head group Grateful Dood) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...From the
archived mistruths of an ex radio technician parading about as an engineer,
Leonard H. Anderson.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. :-)

Nursie be here to just FIGHT anyone not thinking like nursie. :-)

Was the SINCGARS family of radios ever mentioned? ...(SNIPPED)

There are a LOT of military radio systems and equipment NOT mentioned
in
Amateur media...and byt eh same token most of those systems are NOT
mentions
in a great many professional journals, either...! ! ! ! !

Hmmm...General Dynamics as well as ITT make a quarter million
radio sets over a period of 15 years and it is "not" mentioned in
any professional journals?!?!?

I didn't say "ever", Your Wimpiness.

tsk, tsk, tsk. [lower-case comment as befits lower-case nursie]

Your point?

There's quite a bit of FREE information out there for anyone to
find out about military or government radio systems and
communications. Been there for a long time, even before the
Internet went public such as the SINCGARS.

Great.

Then all those Amateurs who ARE interested in military communications
DON'T have to depend on QST, et al to discuss them.

...and nursie thinks amateur radio is exclusive, different from all
other radio. :-)

Did nursie ever bother to check out other radio services (other
than the CBs he saw shrink-wrapped at Wal-Mart)?

A QUARTER MILLION radio sets of one kind makes for some
future surplus market, doesn't it? [that's the most of any one
kind of radio system in government history...]

Sure it does. And "surplus" radio gear has NOT been the preferred method
of getting on the air by Amateurs for TWO DECADES....Not when folks can buy
brand new, under warranty equipment for under $200.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. For a nearly-fifty "olde-tyme" hamme nursie sure
doesn't know much about surplus. :-)


If poor nursie is annoyed at not being spoon-fed enough info
through hum radio magazines, then he should not try to mean-
mouth those who know about such things. Tsk, tsk.

Perhaps if you HAD been reading those Amateur magazines you'd understand
a
bit more about what you are talking about.

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie imagines others' worlds and doings instead
of finding out.

But you go right on ahead, Lennie...

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie getting on high horse again, forgetting which
end is head and which is tail. :-)

Nursie hasn't been able to stop many, despite his shouting,
hollering, cursing, and threatening. :-)


Actually, my words then, as they are now, are that what I did in the
Armed
Forces have nothing to do with Amateur Communications. Just like YOUR "link"
with Amateur Radio, Lennie, those "happenings" only shared the theoretical
basics of radio wave generation and propagation.

tsk, tsk, tsk...translated, nursie never did any military communications
at all (except maybe to use the day room telephone). :-)

Nursie was involved too much in those "hostile actions" in the
military. Must be the post-traumatic stress disorder thing showing
in his postings...


It's the application...not the physics...that separates you from the rest
of us, Sir Scummy.

tsk, tsk, tsk...more "meaningful discourse" from nursie? :-)

Sucks to be you.

Only when I use either of the two Hoover appliances here. :-)

Or the solder-sucker on the bench. :-)

The melting point of solder is well below the temper temperature
of nursie...easier to suck up melted solder than to put out the
fires of outraged, angry egos such as nursie's... :-)

I guess this must be all of what modern U.S. amateur radio is
about...a bunch of mad-as-hell extras berating all the "lower
classes." Nice hobby. For Huns and other barbarians...?

LHA / WMD

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/17/2004 4:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Meanwhile, if I ever find out what's holding me down on the anti-
gravity invention, I will rise above it all.

You mean walking on water wasn't enough...?!?!?

Jesus Christ, NO...

I am not Jesus Christ, Lennie...It's "Steve".

How about a close cousin to the Antichrist? :-)


Confused again...?!?! I am not surprised.

Poor baby. Still angry, outraged, and mean-spirited?

A simple rejoinder about "walking on water" and nursie comes
unglued.

[there may not be an epoxy that will hold poor nursie together]

:-)

LHA / WMD

In article , Radio Amateur KC2HMZ
writes:

When you consider that no carrier goes anywhere alone but instead has
various mixtures of destroyers, cruisers, attack subs, and at least
one ammo/oiler/supply ship in its CSG (Carrier Strike Groups are
formed and disestablished on an as-needed basis; but while one may be
different from another, all are comprised of similar types of ships),
that's a heck of a lot of radio traffic, so I'm sure the freqs listed
above only skim the surface. Conspicuous by their absence from the
above freqs are freqs for LINK-11 (TADIL-A) voice coordination nets,
for example.

Needless to say, these guys can also change frequency at any time, and
will according to mission requirements, propagation, QRM, and other
considerations - including COMSEC.

Roger that, John, thanks.

"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Len Over 21" wrote

Except for Heil, none of the regulars were involved in
any big-time radio communications experience.

Sunuvagun!

73, de Hans, K0HB

Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!

Hi, hi.

"Jim Hampton" wrote

Just out of curiosity, do you have an idea of how
much power the Navy uses on the VLF stuff?

I don't know current QRO, but in the 70's the COMSUBLANT transmitter at
Cutler was 1,700,000W on 15.9KHz and the COMSUBPAC transmitter at Jim
Creek was 2,200,000W on 17.1KHz. The ELF site at Clam Lake is
reportedly engineered for just under 1,000,000,000W at somewhere just
above powerline QRG, 75Hz if I remember correctly. The antenna is just
under 29 miles long.

73, de Hans, K0HB

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve da CAP Ace with too much carburetor heat) sputters and foams:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue". From the
archived lies of Leonard H. Anderson.

Nursie isn't touching the "morse code test issue" is she? :-)

Len, please don't ask what he's touching.

Nursie wanna fight, curse, send nastygrams. :-)

Count cadence, count!

Must be more of that "meaningful dialogue" nursie thinks she is
engaging in. :-)

"My boots are heavy, my chin strap's too tight..."

That was 29 years ago, senior.

That was 13 years ago, senior.

If you're going to parody Spanish, Lennie, you should at least spell it
correctly.

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie lost focus again, desperately trying to invent
another nastygram. :-)

I know it is difficult, but TRY to stay within a few light-years of
the topics in context.

Give him latinobonics, "senyor."

The DSN (Digital Switched Network) ...(SNIP)

Even more completely unrealted, off topic trivia from one who must hide
behind it.

The U.S. government doesn't have the DSN? tsk, tsk, tsk.

DSN works very well. The "government's own internet" as one in
government put it. I've communicated on it. [no license required]

....Battle Hiram of the Republic playing on the PA.

Try to get with the modern times. Reality is all around you.

Yes, it is.

Try to get out of the ham tunnel you inhabit.

Too bad you can't share in it, eh...?!?!

? "Share" in your small tunnel? Your little imagination?

I am well acquainted with life.

More like death and destruction from appearances. You wish ill on
all who oppose your opinions, even to the point of wishing them dead.

Nursie wanna destroy anything anyone say about opposite
opinions as if they are heretical or perverse.

Not a healthy mind indicator to any lay person.

Not healthy at all.

Nop, you're not. You are well acquainted with your PERCEPTION of it from
behind textbooks and CRTs.

...and behind radios. Actual radio communications.

Sunnuvagun, how about that?

Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!

Hi, hi.

Someone other than olde-tyme hammes using non-amateur radios
for communications! [who would have thought of it? :-) ]

Just be sure that most of them are not LE. )

Reality exists beyond the tattered, dog-eared pages of old QST
issues and ARRL handbooks.

Yes, it does. I and others have pointed that out to you on numerous
occassions and invited you to come out and try it. You've declined. Too
much security in LennieLand.

"Security?" Well, yes, I am secure but not in the sense of document
security. :-)

Never heard of "DocSec."

Ah yes, nursie's reality is rated "top sacred" in classification. :-)

Hiram has spoken.

Fort Huachuca was okay in early spring but I've heard it is uncomfortable
in mid-summer, being in Arizona. Glad I wasn't there in mid-summer.

I HAVE been there in mid-summer...and late summer when it's actually
worse. On several occassions.

Of course you have. You've been everywhere that I've been. :-)

I've never been there. What are their licensing requirements?

It's all documented in this newsgroup. :-)

Best of luck - you're going to have to google everything up to provide
the Security Detail with "proof."

See "Cinderella Liberty."

Nursie has been to an HRO store "with buddies" even when it did
not exist in a location. :-)

Magical. Maybe he got mushroom.

Sandia Laboratories is different. But, I can't talk much about that
except that visit concerned things like SID.

Ahhhhhhhhhh.......I see.

Someone else suggests some "security" issues and you try to denigrate
them for it.

SID is an acronym for Seismic Intrusion Devices.

RCA Corporation made a bunch of them for the "McNamara Wall"
in Vietnam, circa 1973-1975. Neat little automatic devices
reporting back (unattended) by radio to a "Portatale" (familiar
name) receiver. Could sense footfalls and had internal sound
processing to differentiate between four-footed and two-footed
creatures. Did the two antennas for them, accurate pattern
measurements on the first model, redesign to a "whip" type
for the second model.

That design is rather outdated now but SIDs are still used by
the government. I really don't know how much information is
still classified. What I've reported is from the public-release
information from Defense Electronics magazine.

Would make a cool variant on a super-tough-to-find "fox hunt"
transmitter. :-) Transmitter stays silent until the stalker
comes close. Sort of "role reversal" of the traditional game.
It would make for very accurate "fox hunt" scoring, though. :-)

"The Hunt for Tight Chin Strap!"

You think you're promoting your "insiderness" and you wave it like a
flag.

Poor baby. Came all unglued for using an old acronym? :-(

tsk, tsk, tsk...all that "hostile action" stuff and never did any
Recon Marine intel patrolling?

Maybe he was a "box kicker."

No, not "rife." :-) If you are trying a larger vocabulary, try to get
something somewhat close to correct...and in context.

Yes...rife was correct and in context.

"Rife: (adj) 1. Widespread 2. Abounding (as with error)"

Only in nursieworld where anything not according to nursie is
"rife." :-)

1/2: Widespread Error.

You are trying to "poison the well" by singling out only specific
instances of what I've mentioned as to experiences and work over
the last 51+ years.

In other words, I hit the mark so close that you'll be dressing the
wounds
from the "collateral damage" for days.

tsk, tsk, tsk...only in nursie's unhealthy imagination, still living
in the "hostile action" battlezone. :-)

"Fire for Effect!"

Must be the post-traumatic stress disorder resulting from no
longer being issued a rifle to deal with "rife-ness."

"My boots are heavy, My mind is rife..."

Welp, he still got a handle on reality.

None of it has anything to do with Amateur Radio.

Radio is radio, regardless of the differentiation that mere human
regulation makers make of its differences.

Only in your mind, Lennie.

Hardly. :-) The FCC knows this, other nations' radio regulating
agencies know this, the rest of the radio world outside of olde-
tyme hum radio knows this, academic institutions teaching
physics knows this, etc., etc., etc.

Nursieworld is all by itself, "a dimension of sight and sound...
at the signpost up ahead...the Twilight Zone!" :-)

If that assertion was so true, you'd have no basis for your OTHER rants
that insist that Amateurs must spend thier time learning about "other" radio
services.

First, amateurs ought to know "thier" own radios...something
beyond the front panel controls.

Amateur radios work by the same physics as other radios!

Sunnuvagun! A revelation to nursieworld!

If "Radio is radio", your other assertions are baseless.

Nurise is "right" and everyone else is "wrong." :-)

Nursieworld still stuck in the Twilight Zone again. tsk, tsk.

The Pacific Stars & Stripes did not include a nice photo I made
of the MARS antenna newly installed at Hardy Barracks in
1955.

And they didn't use the pictures I had of the Loch Ness monster either,
Lennie.

Nursie did an interview with Stars & Stripes?

Where, when, for the Sunday comics section?

[Stars & Stripes does have comic strips in case anyone wanted
to venture into nursieworld imagination]

"Dictating" what you said?

Absolutely. You are outraged that anyone dare confront your
ideas and fantasies with actual, real-life experiences. The same
with several others in here.

Why is it that all those "others" are focused on YOU, Lennie?

"All?" :-) A few of the regulars in here who are of the same ilk
as nursie, wanting to fight to the bitter end to preserve and
protect olde-tyme hamme radio and manual telegraphy?

Wait for the next Sermon on the Antenna Mount...soon to be
preached by the good Rev.

Perhaps YOU are the one with the perception problems?

I haven't gotten the rose-colored glasses yet. Don't use any
nursieworld kaleidoscopes...only oscilloscopes. :-)

That's a rhetorical question, of course. With absolutely NO experience in
Amateur Radio, we know you have no informed, valid expereicen from which to
base your comments.

"Expereicen?" New word? From Newington?

Of course. Amateur radio is so vastly different from all other radio
that one must be licensed and experienced (and be tested in
manual telegraphy) to understand it. [according to nursie]

Nurise hasn't done jack in any other radio service, only amateur, so
that's her only basis. Oh wow, profound, that tunnel vision...

The dictatorial attitude is fairly common, done with heckling
and name-calling and general denigration in an effort to make
a poster stop writing. Weak intimidation. Works sometimes,
but is not a guarantee of suppressing truth and reality.

And therein lies the bane of your existence...

"Bane (n) 1. ruin, death, harm, or their cause 2. poison"

So far, nursie is back on using quaint expressions involving all
that death and destruction.

Must be all that post-traumatic stress disorder from military
life again...?

Still having a hard time wondering why your "superior intellect" can't
squash all those "lesser beings" with your infinite wisdom.....

"Squash?" I'm not fond of squash. It's okay as food, but tasteless.

A more proper word would be 'quash.' Two meanings -

"Quash (vt) from the Latin 'cassus' To set aside (in law use)

"Quash (vt) from the Latin 'quatere' To quell as in an uprising."

[dictionary quoting a part of public service offered pro bono...]

Too bad you can't objectively review what you just wrote against your
conduct over the last several years.

tsk, tsk, tsk...confused on the differences between "objective" and
"subjective?"

The dictionary is your friend. Get acquainted.

Remember only nursie's alternate personalities live in nursieworld.
It's all subjective in there...

No one in this forum has made any such assertion. Even those who
staunchly support Morse Code testing have advocated advancement in the
service.

...by more and more manual telegraphy use, praising its supposed
qualities, and generally getting into silly stuff about how it's so much
"better" than any other mode.

Note use of the word "service" again.

Hmmmmmm....The FCC uses it to describe Amateur Radio.

All throughout Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, the term
"service" is a regulatory word pertaining to a type and kind of radio
activity being regulated.

"Service" has many meanings (the dictionary IS your friend and
you really need one).

Amateur radio is no more of a military or national purpose
"service" than Citizens Band Radio Service (Part 95, Title 47 C.F.R.).

No one "enlists" in the amateur radio service although some
actually do feel compelled to treat it like some military service!

The Commissioners are not licensed Amateurs...Lord knows none of them
hold ANY form of licensure by the FCC.

YOU frequently point out the Commissioners status.

tsk, tsk, tsk...why are you stoutly maintaining that anyone "involved"
in amateur radio "must be licensed?" :-)

Are you NOW telling us that the language used by those very same
Commissioners is WRONG...?!?!

All throughout Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, the term
"service" is a regulatory word pertaining to a type and kind of radio
activity being regulated.


Military surrogate use. Desire to make amateur radio much
more than it is by trying to identify a hobby with military service.

That's YOUR schtick, Lennie.

? I've been a civilian for 44 years after receiving my honorable
discharge from the U.S. Army in 1960. [only one, honorable,
not typed in on any DD-214 which I received in 1956]

Tsk, tsk. Lost focus.

Nope. Never have.

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie keeps forgetting to take off the lens cap.

...and never loads any film. :-)



Nope...It's right on. You make all sorts of assinine assertions about
Amateur Radio in general and some Amateurs in particular, then can NEVER back
up your assertions.

You make assertions of fact.

I want you to validate them.

You never do. You CLAIM to be a "radio professional". You are not now
nor ever were anything of the kind.

Do you need those documents verified by a notary public and
hand-delivered by bonded courier? :-)

tsk, tsk, tsk...I've given my short-form resume in here along with
living radio amateur references...and nursie never did check them
out, only issuing spiteful, hated nastygrams. :-)

"Professional (adj) Engaged in some sport or specific
occupation for pay."

[the dictionary can be your friend but nursie seems to want to fight
with everyone...]


If you tried to pass off "credentials" like some hobbyist periodicals as
"profesional publishing", you'd be laughed out of the IEEE.

Haven't been since first joining IEEE in 1973. One of my sponsors
was Jim Hall, KD6JG. :-)

["sunnavagun" as the super chief is fond of saying...:-) ]


The "shrinking ham advertising" was due to a lack of support of
consumers.

No consumers = no advertising monies = defunct.

Corporate advertisers do not spend thier advertising monies where it is
not netting a reasonable return.

You are close, but you've failed Business Economics 101.

The "shrinking ham advertising" is due to a lack of SPENDING
for advertising by manufacturers and services in periodicals.

Advertising is basically the same regardless of the product or
service. It is a means to induce potential buyers of a particular
product or service.

Most periodicals in the USA exist solely on the basis of
advertising space sales income. When advertisers do not
purchase advertising space in periodicals, that periodical has
less revenue. [I hope you've understood that basic rule so
far...] Note this carefully: The purchase of advertising space
has little directly to do with "consumers." Some products and
services can continue with an absolute minimal amount of
advertising.

If "Ham Radio" had been the marvel of publishing accomplishment you'd
care
to have us beleive, it would still be actively published instead of being
polished and repackaged as a CD novelty.

HR existed for 22 years as an independent periodical, even
spun off "Ham Radio Horizons." It started up as an independent,
continued as an independent. No support was needed by any
membership organization budget such as QST.

HR was considered the prime technical periodical for amateur
radio by radio amateurs when it was in its 22 year span. That
was stated by many, many radio amateurs.


Even then I can't find a single example where any of your "work" was
original, nor can I find any example of where your "contributions" were
complimentary to the advancement of ANY radio communications discipline.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Having nursie as a critic is like having a blind
color coordinator for interior decoration. :-)

Try to differentiate between "compliment" and "complement."

In either use of either word, there is no professional historical
documentation that would indicate that Leonard H. Anderson did anything other
than sweep floors in ANY "aerospace" installation or facility.

tsk, tsk, tsk...personnel records of employees are not normally
found in "professional historical documentation." :-) Those can
be verified by personnel departments (now called "human
resources").

And as far as your "contributions" to Amateur Radio via your HR pieces, I
find no occassion where your work was footnooted, included or otherwise madse
part-and-parcel of any other paper or work.

"Footnoot?" "Madse?" :-)

And I did look. Closely.

Total bull**** by nursie. :-) :-) :-)

On the other hand, maybe a sign of an impending vision problem.

Having to look closely at written text may be an indication that an
eye examination is required, perhaps for corrective lenses. See
an opthalmologist or optometrist in addition to a mental therapist.


Here's the full sentence: "I am only 'bitterly resentful' of
pathological
liars who proactively seek to cause harm to Amateur Radio for no other
purpsoe than to sate his own ego".

You'll hate yourself in the morning. :-) [every morning]


You are a pathological liar, Lennie.

You can't tell or acknowledge the truth. Your lying is habitual. Even
when you DO quote or recite factual information, who can trust you?

Then how do you know anything I write is "factual" if everything
is a "lie?" :-)

Just another "meaningful discourse" nastygram from nursie.


And you are not a "long time radio amateur". Never were, and God
willing, never will be.

tsk, tsk, tsk...that's not the way to get a PR job with ARRL...:-)


Expose. As if it took any effort to do...

tsk, tsk, tsk...remember the lens cap is still on and you didn't
load any film... :-)

And if you didn't post such foolishness, I wouldn't have anything to
work with. HARDLY "obsessed".

Your obsession was just admitted. Seek help with that disorder.


Well, Lennie, I am neither "lay people", nor am I the "sicko" that you
insinuate.

I didn't "insinuate." I stated it directly. You are obsessed with
trying to fight with newsgroup communicators who don't agree
with you. You defy social convention in acting the sociopath to
all who don't share your viewpoints.

That's a sick attitude to anyone, with or without "credentials."

Get help.

LHA / WMD

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve da CAP Ace with too much carburetor heat) sputters and foams:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue". From
the
archived lies of Leonard H. Anderson.

Nursie isn't touching the "morse code test issue" is she? :-)

Len, please don't ask what he's touching.

I think we all know 'what' when he be posting here... :-)

Nursie wanna fight, curse, send nastygrams. :-)

Count cadence, count!

A little close-order Dill on the quadrangle by the Dill Instructor.

We are all "maggots" but him. :-)

Must be more of that "meaningful dialogue" nursie thinks she is
engaging in. :-)

"My boots are heavy, my chin strap's too tight..."

Not to mention getting a MILITARY handset for that SG-2020 in
a paramilitary configuration! :-)

That was 29 years ago, senior.

That was 13 years ago, senior.

If you're going to parody Spanish, Lennie, you should at least spell
it
correctly.

tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie lost focus again, desperately trying to invent
another nastygram. :-)

I know it is difficult, but TRY to stay within a few light-years of
the topics in context.

Give him latinobonics, "senyor."

Nah. His jump boots are laced too tight and the campaign hat
fits too snug. Insufficient blood flow to the brain to allow foreign
concepts.

[I used that term in here before, in reference to those "old farts"
that want to go on and on about glorious morse, the first love of
their lives...]

The DSN (Digital Switched Network) ...(SNIP)

Even more completely unrealted, off topic trivia from one who must
hide
behind it.

The U.S. government doesn't have the DSN? tsk, tsk, tsk.

DSN works very well. The "government's own internet" as one in
government put it. I've communicated on it. [no license required]

...Battle Hiram of the Republic playing on the PA.

Har! :-)

Try to get with the modern times. Reality is all around you.

Yes, it is.

Try to get out of the ham tunnel you inhabit.

Too bad you can't share in it, eh...?!?!

? "Share" in your small tunnel? Your little imagination?

I am well acquainted with life.

More like death and destruction from appearances. You wish ill on
all who oppose your opinions, even to the point of wishing them dead.

Nursie wanna destroy anything anyone say about opposite
opinions as if they are heretical or perverse.

Not a healthy mind indicator to any lay person.

Not healthy at all.

But nursie be a documented, certificated "extra" (with a license
suitable for framing), therefore "knows" all about hum radio.

Nop, you're not. You are well acquainted with your PERCEPTION of it
from
behind textbooks and CRTs.

...and behind radios. Actual radio communications.

Sunnuvagun, how about that?

Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!

Hi, hi.

Must be a homeland defense radio exercise going on...Tennessee
Thudbolt 2004.

Maybe John has heard some of that? [sorry, John, no offense...]

Someone other than olde-tyme hammes using non-amateur radios
for communications! [who would have thought of it? :-) ]

Just be sure that most of them are not LE. )

:-)

Reality exists beyond the tattered, dog-eared pages of old QST
issues and ARRL handbooks.

Yes, it does. I and others have pointed that out to you on numerous
occassions and invited you to come out and try it. You've declined. Too
much security in LennieLand.

"Security?" Well, yes, I am secure but not in the sense of document
security. :-)

Never heard of "DocSec."

The stuff with the pretty borders on the heavy cover sheet, always
kept in a secure filing cabinet with double locks on it. You know...
"Newington Confidential, Secret (because no one knows about it),
and Top Sacred (all about morse code being epitome, etc.)."

I didn't mention "Q Clearance" because that is NOT about Q Codes.

Ah yes, nursie's reality is rated "top sacred" in classification. :-)

Hiram has spoken.

See? He got cleared for "top."

Problem is, to get a "top" requires a background check. Guvmint
ain't letting out info from the background investigation...

Fort Huachuca was okay in early spring but I've heard it is
uncomfortable
in mid-summer, being in Arizona. Glad I wasn't there in mid-summer.

I HAVE been there in mid-summer...and late summer when it's actually
worse. On several occassions.

Of course you have. You've been everywhere that I've been. :-)

I've never been there. What are their licensing requirements?

Intelligence needed. :-)

It's all documented in this newsgroup. :-)

Best of luck - you're going to have to google everything up to provide
the Security Detail with "proof."

See "Cinderella Liberty."

I didn't. Jack Nicholson is in that one as an SP. Jack also played
Colonel Jessup in "A Few Good Men." [famous line in that pic...
"You can't handle the truth!!!"]

Nursie has been to an HRO store "with buddies" even when it did
not exist in a location. :-)

Magical. Maybe he got mushroom.

Peyote.

Sandia Laboratories is different. But, I can't talk much about that
except that visit concerned things like SID.

Ahhhhhhhhhh.......I see.

Someone else suggests some "security" issues and you try to denigrate
them for it.

SID is an acronym for Seismic Intrusion Devices.

RCA Corporation made a bunch of them for the "McNamara Wall"
in Vietnam, circa 1973-1975. Neat little automatic devices
reporting back (unattended) by radio to a "Portatale" (familiar
name) receiver. Could sense footfalls and had internal sound
processing to differentiate between four-footed and two-footed
creatures. Did the two antennas for them, accurate pattern
measurements on the first model, redesign to a "whip" type
for the second model.

That design is rather outdated now but SIDs are still used by
the government. I really don't know how much information is
still classified. What I've reported is from the public-release
information from Defense Electronics magazine.

Would make a cool variant on a super-tough-to-find "fox hunt"
transmitter. :-) Transmitter stays silent until the stalker
comes close. Sort of "role reversal" of the traditional game.
It would make for very accurate "fox hunt" scoring, though. :-)

"The Hunt for Tight Chin Strap!"

You think you're promoting your "insiderness" and you wave it like a
flag.

Poor baby. Came all unglued for using an old acronym? :-(

tsk, tsk, tsk...all that "hostile action" stuff and never did any
Recon Marine intel patrolling?

Maybe he was a "box kicker."

:-)

No, not "rife." :-) If you are trying a larger vocabulary, try to
get
something somewhat close to correct...and in context.

Yes...rife was correct and in context.

"Rife: (adj) 1. Widespread 2. Abounding (as with error)"

Only in nursieworld where anything not according to nursie is
"rife." :-)

1/2: Widespread Error.

He have riferong mistakes.

You are trying to "poison the well" by singling out only specific
instances of what I've mentioned as to experiences and work over
the last 51+ years.

In other words, I hit the mark so close that you'll be dressing the
wounds
from the "collateral damage" for days.

tsk, tsk, tsk...only in nursie's unhealthy imagination, still living
in the "hostile action" battlezone. :-)

"Fire for Effect!"

BASS...breath, aim, sight, squeeeeeeze...

He a big shot. "A few ounces of pressure," etc. Not much needed
for him to shoot off his mouth...or keyboard.

Must be the post-traumatic stress disorder resulting from no
longer being issued a rifle to deal with "rife-ness."

"My boots are heavy, My mind is rife..."

Welp, he still got a handle on reality.

I think the handle came loose a long time ago.

LHA / WMD

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: Radio Amateur KC2HMZ
Date: 6/19/2004 2:16 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On 19 Jun 2004 05:57:47 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

In article , Radio Amateur
KC2HMZ
writes:

On 18 Jun 2004 19:48:44 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

See the Army Communicator write-up on Grecian Firebolt 2002
for a good example. :-)

For that matter, just turn on a shortwave receiver. Grecian Firebolt
2004 is being conducted as I type this, and will continue until some
time in August.

Interesting! :-)

Frequencies?

Among those that have been logged over the last week or so a...(SNIPPED)

Very interesting.

I note only one MARS callsign there, and it's NOT a facility callsign.
Rather it's one assigned to an individual (read that "licensed Amateur").

Guess all those "professional" MARS operators were taking a break.

I am curious about the German callsign that John attributes to being in
Washington state? A typo...?!?!

I see at least one reference to a Civil Air Patrol station.

I DON'T see ANY reference to any Part 15 or other unlicensed devices being
employed or reported. Nor do I see any PLMRS, GMRS, or MURS systems. (Certain
posters here insist they play a "major" role in "emergency comms"...Guess they
will be in the NEXT exercise...?!?!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/19/2004 4:17 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/18/2004 2:48 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/17/2004 4:45 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Meanwhile, if I ever find out what's holding me down on the anti-
gravity invention, I will rise above it all.

You mean walking on water wasn't enough...?!?!?

Jesus Christ, NO...

I am not Jesus Christ, Lennie...It's "Steve".

How about a close cousin to the Antichrist?

I am sure you wish it were true.

Confused again...?!?! I am not surprised.

Poor baby. Still angry, outraged, and mean-spirited?

I am not being mean spirited by pointing out your errors, Lennie.

Why do you disdain them? They're yours, afterall!

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: The Game's Afoot!
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/19/2004 4:17 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

The melting point of solder is well below the temper temperature
of nursie...easier to suck up melted solder than to put out the
fires of outraged, angry egos such as nursie's.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...Leonard H.
Anderson, alleged engineer and proven pathological liar.

I guess this must be all of what modern U.S. amateur radio is
about...a bunch of mad-as-hell extras berating all the "lower
classes." Nice hobby. For Huns and other barbarians...?

All the nicer without a lying, disgraceful ex-technician who thinks he
knows better NOT in it, Lennie...

That would be you, byt the way...

Sucks to be you...again.

Steve, K4YZ