In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

In article ,
(Lumushahs) writes:

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.

Oh, my, yes! Not only that, the "only way to show interest in radio
is to get a ham license! (herr robust)

No ham license, NO "interest in radio!" :-)

LHA / WMD

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Famous Hams
From: (Lumushahs)
Date: 7/15/2004 9:11 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Subject: Famous Hams

From: (Len Over 21)
Porky Pig is a ham. He on the list?

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams. Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either. One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

Vippy...I see your extended absence was not used to improve your English
or your expressive skills...Nor your understanding of Amateur Radio...Still
hunting those "preety fems"...?!?!

Poor delusional Gunnery Nurse must be hurting in another area.
Thinks ham radio is either all about sex or has nothing to do
with sex. :-)

Ah, yes, the Gunnery Nurse put on his Class A Amateur uniform
and is busy doing recruiting for The Service! Spreading all that
"good will" the FCC says hams have?

Hollywood could make another movie about good will hunting.
Starring the Staring Stalking Dill Instructor busy chewing out
all those not delighted with his Yell-Yell. :-)

An eighth hostile action to put in with his shoebox medal set!

LHA / WMD

On 16 Jul 2004 22:02:42 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

In article nSQJc.1002$fB4.54@lakeread01, "Da Shadow" writes:

Sorry, PØRKY is not a valid call (;-)

However, NØPIG is a valid call -- check QRZ

Sorry if this is a BØAR
--
Lamont Cranston

Sunnuvagun! Really? :-)

Does Warner Brothers know about this? :-)

[loved your show in the old days on AM BC... :-) ]

Yup - that guy sold an awful lot of Blue Coal, Wildroot and
Camels.....


LHA / WMD

73, Leo

From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.


Maybe, maybe not.

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.


Perhaps in a limited view. Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options. By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.


Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own interests.

"Lumushahs" wrote in message
...
From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.


Maybe, maybe not.

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are
"hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.


Perhaps in a limited view. Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options. By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.


Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own
interests.


There is no requirement, formal or informal or otherwise, to follow any
particular, so-called culture. The term "ham" is, and has been for
approximately 100 years, a term meaning amateur radio operator. One hundred
years ago, there was no CB and there were no contests. Morse was a
necessity but hams were working diligently on better transmitters and
working towards developing voice transmissions. When the term was coined,
none of the factors that you list were pertinent and some didn't even exist.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Subject: Famous Hams
From: (Lumushahs)
Date: 7/17/2004 6:46 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.


Maybe, maybe not.

No maybe...No maybe not.

If they have an FCC form 600 with thier name and an Amateur callsign and
class of license

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.


Perhaps in a limited view. Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options. By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

Not, they don't.

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.


Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Vipul, you're a bigot of almost immeasurable proportion if you think that
those things you just described are what define "Ham" radio.

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own interests.

No kidding...?!?! You think some people really have thier OWN ideas of
what they want to take away from Amateur Radio...?!?!

Were you born this way or is it the culmination of a life long
pursuit...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(Lumushahs) writes:

From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.

Maybe, maybe not.

If they hold a valid amateur radio license, they're hams. By definition.

Don't assume that they
all are. Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Yes, it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a
"ham".

"Amateur radio operator" and "ham" mean the same thing.

Perhaps in a limited view.

No, they mean exactly the same thing by definition. To be one is to be the
other.

Your attempt to redefine what certain words mean is futile. Give it up.

Or it may be an attempt to limit other people's
options.

No, it's just a word.

By declaring there is no other options, these other amateur radio
amateurs (must) subsrcibe to the ham culture.

Being an amateur radio operator/ham does not mean one must subscribe to any
"culture".

From: Fred Garvin

Just because they have a call sign does not mean they are "hams",
either.

Ummm, yes it does.

One can still like radio (amateur or professional), and not be a "ham".

Sure.

So all people with a call sign must like to be called "ham", worship morse
code, love contests, hate CBers, and believe all things that are "ham"?

Nope. Not at all.

Some people do not identify with those things, and have their own interests.

And if those people have amateur radio licenses, they are hams. If they do not
have amateur radio licenses, they are not hams.

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Lumushahs) writes:

From: n2ey

Also, some of the people on the list may not be hams.

No, they're all hams.

Maybe, maybe not.

If they hold a valid amateur radio license, they're hams. By definition.

Just reviewed Part 97. I must have missed it. Kindly direct me to
the proper paragraph.

N2EY wrote:
If they hold a valid amateur radio license, they're hams. By definition.

There is no such definition.

Then (William) replied:
Just reviewed Part 97. I must have missed it. Kindly direct me to
the proper paragraph.

Thank you. You are correct. There is no mention of the word "ham" in Part 97.

Subject: Famous Hams
From: (Lumushahs)
Date: 7/17/2004 5:06 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

N2EY wrote:
If they hold a valid amateur radio license, they're hams. By definition.

There is no such definition.

Sure there is, albeit not in Part 97.

You won't find Police Officers refered to as "cops" in municipal or
"official" documents, but if you say "cops", everyone knows who you are talking
about.

Then (William) replied:
Just reviewed Part 97. I must have missed it. Kindly direct me to
the proper paragraph.

Thank you. You are correct. There is no mention of the word "ham" in Part 97.

There's also no mention of "Vipul" in Part 97, but you're a Ham too,
Vippy. Live with it.

Steve, K4YZ