Leo wrote:


No wonder you're getting so much heat here, Len - clearly, you are out
of your league.

By golly, "Leo", I think you're on to something! In other venues, Len
might hold his own. Here, he has yet to become a beginner.

Dave K8MN

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:30:38 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:



Leo wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:43:13 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:



Leo wrote:


On 11 Aug 2004 19:59:01 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

snip

If you can't do it, well, you can't do it. No problem to me. :-)



Catalyst:

One that precipitates a process or event, especially without being
involved in or changed by the consequences.

Based on previous postings, you don't suspect that this fellow is a
catalyst, do you ? :-)

Not even close, Leo I accomplished nothing by my question. I'm cold
fusion, friend!


My mistake, Mike - for a minute there, I thought that you might be
trying to start something up, then step back and watch the fun.....

Good to hear that you ain't that type! :-)

We're *all* that type here Leo!

Not at all, Mike - some engage in heated discussion and stand by their
beliefs, others enjoy starting them up then running away - sorta like
Usenet arsonists......well, you know the type :-)


Actually, my point was that if we're going to bust Jim's chops about
what appeared to be an error on his part, *we* should be able to back up
that chop busting with some good hard data. I could work the problem out
eventually, but I'm a dilettante at best in such matters.

Well, he is traditionally the first one to jump on someone for 'being
wrong' about something - anything, actually, no matter how trivial -
and often only in his own opinion at that.

Which is unlikely - he's made too many enemies with his "You're just
wrong. I'm always right" attitude in the group for that to be an
option.

It is interesting to see the reaction when the tables are turned. You
know that if he had have popped in and said "you're right, guys, I
screwed up", this thread would have died out. Apparently, and quite
unfortunately, that isn't possible for him to do - so he avoids the
issue, and hopes it goes away.

Like the old saying goes, "if you can't take it, don't dish it out" !

He's reading this thread, though - he knows it's here. When the time
is right, he'll jump in and try to take control of it - just watch!
Meanwhile, he's out there today regaling us with his wisdom on the
subject of license fees, and other matters.

And reading.......


- Mike KB3EIA -

73, Leo

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Makes you wonder why that videodisc system bombed, but DVD
succeeded. Other than being "digital" they are not that
different...

When the various videodisc systems appeared, they all shared some common
weaknesses. They couldn't record, they and the discs were big and expensive,
the selection of movie titles was very limited. Most of all, you had to buy the
discs.

The first VCRs were a success primarily as a way of time-shifting favorite
programs, avoiding commercials, and building up a library of favorite
programming. The popularity of VCRs created the video rental store industry,
which meant that you didn't have to buy every movie you wanted to see.

Then mass production and changes in the movie industry reduced the cost of
tapes, so that buying them became only a little more expensive than renting.

Meanwhile, the music industry went from vinyl records to CDs and cassette
tapes.

So when DVDs appeared, the market was more than ready for them.

When my early 1980s CD player finally gave up the ghose some time back, I got a
player that does both CDs and DVDs. A twofer.

No porn avaliable may have had something
to do with it ;-)

Actually that industry was greatly affected by the invention of camcorders,
VCRs and now DVD players. A friend of mine says that much of modern
electronics, from computers to digital cameras to the internet, is heavily
driven by that particular industry. He has a whole list of humorous
translations of various modern acronyms.

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Leo wrote:


No wonder you're getting so much heat here, Len - clearly, you are out
of your league.

By golly, "Leo", I think you're on to something! In other venues, Len
might hold his own. Here, he has yet to become a beginner.

Pish off portly old ham.

YOU show us How To Begin Being A Sociable HUMAN.

You haven't even started that yet, let alone "beginning."

Go play with your fancy I-can-download-firmware-on-the-Internet
a la Star Trek Transporter. Have an oriongasm.

Pbthbthbthbth...

LHA / WMD

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Leo wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:43:13 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:



Leo wrote:


On 11 Aug 2004 19:59:01 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

snip

If you can't do it, well, you can't do it. No problem to me. :-)



Catalyst:

One that precipitates a process or event, especially without being
involved in or changed by the consequences.

Based on previous postings, you don't suspect that this fellow is a
catalyst, do you ? :-)

Not even close, Leo I accomplished nothing by my question. I'm cold
fusion, friend!


My mistake, Mike - for a minute there, I thought that you might be
trying to start something up, then step back and watch the fun.....

Good to hear that you ain't that type! :-)

We're *all* that type here Leo!

Actually, my point was that if we're going to bust Jim's chops about
what appeared to be an error on his part, *we* should be able to back up
that chop busting with some good hard data. I could work the problem out
eventually, but I'm a dilettante at best in such matters.

Dear dilly Mike,

What's your beef about "busting chops?" You opening a meat market?
[specializing in ham stakes for ham burghers?]

Hello? Newsflash: Rev. Jim MADE AN ERROR IN MATH. Nothing
major. He no work for NASA, not IN space. Not life critical.

Was simple matter to reach up for Almanac, go to page with basic
planetary data, find minimum and maximum distances Earth to Mars,
then use calculator to divide that by approximate speed of light. NOT
a tuff thing at all. Simple.

He got corrected. Correction corroborated. Where's the beef?

[do you know the basic cuts for chops?]

Is this some kind of IMAGE thing with you PCTA? You all have to
be "right" even when you are wrong?!?!?

You want Flame War over trivia? Go fight with Alex Trebek on
Jeopardy and against Ken Jennings.

Or work hard on your morsemanship, be a "real" ham!

Recreate the past, do it again, and again, and again until you get
it right!

Pbthbthbthbth...

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


Leo wrote:


On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:43:13 -0400, Mike Coslo
wrote:



Leo wrote:



On 11 Aug 2004 19:59:01 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

snip

If you can't do it, well, you can't do it. No problem to me. :-)



Catalyst:

One that precipitates a process or event, especially without being
involved in or changed by the consequences.

Based on previous postings, you don't suspect that this fellow is a
catalyst, do you ? :-)

Not even close, Leo I accomplished nothing by my question. I'm cold
fusion, friend!


My mistake, Mike - for a minute there, I thought that you might be
trying to start something up, then step back and watch the fun.....

Good to hear that you ain't that type! :-)

We're *all* that type here Leo!

Actually, my point was that if we're going to bust Jim's chops about
what appeared to be an error on his part, *we* should be able to back up
that chop busting with some good hard data. I could work the problem out
eventually, but I'm a dilettante at best in such matters.


Dear dilly Mike,

What's your beef about "busting chops?" You opening a meat market?
[specializing in ham stakes for ham burghers?]

Don't want busted chops in my meat market!


Hello? Newsflash: Rev. Jim MADE AN ERROR IN MATH. Nothing
major. He no work for NASA, not IN space. Not life critical.

Tell Leo about it. He seems to think it's worth pursuing even after Jim
corrected himself.


Was simple matter to reach up for Almanac, go to page with basic
planetary data, find minimum and maximum distances Earth to Mars,
then use calculator to divide that by approximate speed of light. NOT
a tuff thing at all. Simple.

He got corrected. Correction corroborated. Where's the beef?

Check with Leo.

And poor old Clara Peller is no longer with us.

[do you know the basic cuts for chops?]

No, I can carve a good turkey tho'.

Is this some kind of IMAGE thing with you PCTA? You all have to
be "right" even when you are wrong?!?!?

You want Flame War over trivia? Go fight with Alex Trebek on
Jeopardy and against Ken Jennings.

Wouldn't that be cool if he posted in here? Thanks for the invitation
anyway.

Or work hard on your morsemanship, be a "real" ham!

I am a real ham, despite my lack of morseosity.

Recreate the past, do it again, and again, and again until you get
it right!

Pbthbthbthbth...

Spill Pepsi on your keyboard? 8^)

LHA / WMD

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

A half century ago, the U.S. military was NOT using any morsemen
in long-distance 24/7 net communications.

None at all?

Not even on ships?

"Len Over 21" wrote


A half century ago, the U.S. military was NOT using any morsemen
in long-distance 24/7 net communications.


In 1954 ("a half century ago") morse was the primary "long-distance
24/7 net communications" mode for the majority US Navy warships.

Good luck on this one now!

73, de Hans, K0HB
Master Chief Radioman, US Navy

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Leo wrote:


No wonder you're getting so much heat here, Len - clearly, you are out
of your league.

By golly, "Leo", I think you're on to something! In other venues, Len
might hold his own. Here, he has yet to become a beginner.

Pish off portly old ham.

Sounds like you've finished off some port, old man.

YOU show us How To Begin Being A Sociable HUMAN.

After you, Alphonse.

You haven't even started that yet, let alone "beginning."

Go play with your fancy I-can-download-firmware-on-the-Internet
a la Star Trek Transporter. Have an oriongasm.

I have downloaded such firmware and I do play quite often with the
Orion.
I'll do as I choose. You do as you can. Why, by the way, don't you
stop giving ORDERS?

Pbthbthbthbth...

Settle down, kindly old soul. You'll soon have your breath back.

Dave K8MN

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Like the old saying goes, "if you can't take it, don't dish it out" !

Lessee, he admitted error, and then worked at correcting it. That is a
lot more than some in this group would do. My guess is that is about
what to expect. Perhaps gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair, a good
act of contrition, and a month of bread and water and wearing of
sackcloth would be in order? 8^)

Morsemen don't DO that sort of thing. They are "superior."

He's reading this thread, though - he knows it's here. When the time
is right, he'll jump in and try to take control of it - just watch!
Meanwhile, he's out there today regaling us with his wisdom on the
subject of license fees, and other matters.

Being wrong on one thing does not mean you can't post on anything else.

Right...but morsemen are ALWAYS right, regardless.

Leo omitted mention of all those other things, like presidential
politics, the space business, global economy and choo-choo
trains.

Professional amateurs who have a career in amateur radio seem
to think that all who don't think like they think, "think."

Do you "think" about it?

Thounds thinky to me...

LHA / WMD