Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline ...
From: "D. Stussy"
Date: 8/9/2004 1:18 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Lloyd wrote:
BULL****!

Then tell me why he won't come out here and set the record straight?

He obviously knows about this newsgroup and reads it - and even posts at
least
once per week here.

"He" doesn't do the posting. It's distributed to an address book.

He won't come out - because he knows that I'm correct.

"He won't come out" for reasons OTHER than "know(ing) that (you're)
correct"...

He doesn't "come out" because he won't lend any recognition to your
rantings, Dieter.

If you WERE correct, you'd just go right ahead and publish the information
or turn over your "evidence" to the proper authorities.

Your SOLE purpose in pursuing Bill Pasternak is to get into a peeing
contest over issues that no one except you deems valid enough to discuss in ANY
forum.

You will find that
I'm
not the only person who has this opinion of him and his finances (but I may
be
the only one who has voiced it).

You are making this up as you go, Dieter. You have no "facts" upon which
to justify your allegations.

If you have some "facts", publish them here and impress us with just how
dilligent and "correct" you are in this matter. Otherwise, you're just ranting
and raving.

I lean towards raving.

73

Steve, K4YZ

"D. Stussy" wrote:

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Lloyd wrote:
BULL****!

Then tell me why he won't come out here and set the record straight?

What would be his motivation to do so?

He obviously knows about this newsgroup and reads it - and even posts at least
once per week here.

He won't come out - because he knows that I'm correct.

At least that's your assumption.

You will find that I'm
not the only person who has this opinion of him and his finances (but I may be
the only one who has voiced it).

If no one else is voicing it, how do you know there are others who hold
your view? From the response to your diatribes here, most think the
matter is a non-issue. You can rage at the Sun; you can curse the moon.
Both are still here.

Dave K8MN

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

I lean towards raving.

Finally, a truth.

Nursie RAVES, RANTS, INSULTS, SHOUTS, Hollers, and does the
YELL-YELL to anyone who disagrees with him... :-)

Nice image of a modern day amateur extra?

Tsk, tsk...NO "respect" for anyone else!

[hmmm...I wonder if all that angry energy can be harnessed...might
be the answer to fulfilling the demand for more energy in TN...]

LHA / WMD

Perhaps the TVA could damn him and meter out all of that misdirected
energy for useful purposes? Hi, hi.

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

I lean towards raving.

Finally, a truth.

Nursie RAVES, RANTS, INSULTS, SHOUTS, Hollers, and does the
YELL-YELL to anyone who disagrees with him... :-)

Nice image of a modern day amateur extra?

Tsk, tsk...NO "respect" for anyone else!

[hmmm...I wonder if all that angry energy can be harnessed...might
be the answer to fulfilling the demand for more energy in TN...]

LHA / WMD

Perhaps the TVA could damn him and meter out all of that misdirected
energy for useful purposes? Hi, hi.

Nursie IS the Tennessee Valley Authority!!! Ho ho.

:-)

LHA / WMD

Then they've damned him. ;^)

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

I lean towards raving.

Finally, a truth.

Nursie RAVES, RANTS, INSULTS, SHOUTS, Hollers, and does the
YELL-YELL to anyone who disagrees with him... :-)

Nice image of a modern day amateur extra?

Tsk, tsk...NO "respect" for anyone else!

[hmmm...I wonder if all that angry energy can be harnessed...might
be the answer to fulfilling the demand for more energy in TN...]

LHA / WMD

Perhaps the TVA could damn him and meter out all of that misdirected
energy for useful purposes? Hi, hi.

Nursie IS the Tennessee Valley Authority!!! Ho ho.

:-)

LHA / WMD

Then they've damned him. ;^)

I hope he can "hold his water...." :-)

LHA / WMD

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 09:04:46 GMT, "D. Stussy"
wrote:

I will make this final post on the topic:

He sees fit (whether properly or not) to post his weekly script here. Why
won't he come out and defend himself by disclosing where the finances of ARN
really go? He certainly knows that he has been challenged on this issue; all
he has to do is read the posts. We know that he does as the Internet
newsgroups may lead him (and his competitors) to stories sometimes before other
sources do.

My answer: Because he knows that I am correct and he doesn't want to expose
his operation by commenting or responding.

My opinion is not alone. I have asked some of the other operators in my area,
including one who runs a radio school (not Gordon West), and they know of no
information that would refute my conclusion. Granted that BP may not have the
burden of proof, but I have made a prima-facie case based on what information
is in the public knowledge.

You don't have a leg to stand on.

Stacey, AA7YA

On 02 Aug 2004 13:40:06 GMT, (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote:

Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline ...
From: "D. Stussy"
Date: 8/2/2004 4:04 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline ...

If you want to impress anyone with the validity of your claims,
suck-it-up
and file the official complaints with the California AG, the IRS, the FCC,
the
ASPCA, or the International Brotherhood of Who Gives a Dang. This is an
UNMODERATED Amateur Radio newsgroup, and as much as you may disagree with
it,
the overall content of ARN's releases ARE related to the intent of it.
Your
PERSONAL angst with Bill is NOT!

I will make this final post on the topic:

In other words, you have no intention of backing up your allegations...

Just as well...I think you'd wind up having to eat them anyway.

He sees fit (whether properly or not) to post his weekly script here.

Because this is an U N M O D E R A T E D newsgroup ABOUT Amateur Radio.
Many if not most of his "posts" have information DIRECTLY RELATED to Amateur
Radio POLICY, Dieter.

He's under NO REQUIREMENT from the FCC, Congress, you or I to get ANYONE'S
permission to do it!

U-N-M-O-D-E-R-A-T-E-D

Do I need to buy you a Webster's, Dieter?

Why won't he come out and defend himself by disclosing where the finances of
ARN
really go?

Defend himself against WHAT? You? Your shot-in-the-dark allegations?

He certainly knows that he has been challenged on this issue; all
he has to do is read the posts.

And he's under WHAT obligation to read your grossly biased and obviously
baseless accusations?

If you want to "challenge" him, Dieter, GO TO COURT!

I say you're wrong and I think he's got a better-than-average case against
YOU for your bashing and allegations!

We know that he does as the Internet
newsgroups may lead him (and his competitors) to stories sometimes before
other
sources do.

My answer: Because he knows that I am correct and he doesn't want to expose
his operation by commenting or responding.

What's to respond to?

If you HAD the evidence for the allegations you keep making, you would
have (or should have, as a concerned citizen), filed a complaint with the
appropriate agencies. The IRS takes very dim exception to organizations who
abuse thier tax-exempt status...You might even get a reward.

You haven't, which leads me to believe you're just huffing and puffing.

My opinion is not alone. I have asked some of the other operators in my
area,
including one who runs a radio school (not Gordon West), and they know of no
information that would refute my conclusion. Granted that BP may not have
the
burden of proof, but I have made a prima-facie case based on what information
is in the public knowledge.

You have nothing.

You make allegations based solely upon your personal angst against Mr
Pasternak, and YOU know that if you filed a sworn complaint you'd wind up in
trouble yourself. THAT is as transparent as glass.

Either ante-up some sort of valid, documented proof, or just admit you're
barking at the moon.

Steve, K4YZ








I'd love to see Dieter forego this case. It may be the single most
generous donation Pasternak has gotten to date since he went on the
air.

Stacey, AA7YA

Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline ...
From: S. Hanrahan
Date: 8/14/2004 4:09 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On 02 Aug 2004 13:40:06 GMT, (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote:

You make allegations based solely upon your personal angst against Mr
Pasternak, and YOU know that if you filed a sworn complaint you'd wind up in
trouble yourself. THAT is as transparent as glass.

Either ante-up some sort of valid, documented proof, or just admit
you're
barking at the moon.

I'd love to see Dieter forego this case. It may be the single most
generous donation Pasternak has gotten to date since he went on the
air.

I'd love to see him forego his ranting on this issue, PERIOD.

Dieter's done a LOT of "what if" mathematics on what he THINKS Bill makes
and collects as a reuslt of ARN requests for solicitations, however hasn't yet
ponied up a single dime's worth of VALID references to ANY "wrongdoing".

He's going to keep it up, and if and when Bill comes out, he'll come out
swinging...With a lawsuit....

And he'd be right to do so....

73

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline ...
From: S. Hanrahan
Date: 8/14/2004 4:09 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On 02 Aug 2004 13:40:06 GMT, (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote:

You make allegations based solely upon your personal angst against Mr
Pasternak, and YOU know that if you filed a sworn complaint you'd wind up in
trouble yourself. THAT is as transparent as glass.

Either ante-up some sort of valid, documented proof, or just admit
you're
barking at the moon.

I'd love to see Dieter forego this case. It may be the single most
generous donation Pasternak has gotten to date since he went on the
air.

I'd love to see him forego his ranting on this issue, PERIOD.

Dieter's done a LOT of "what if" mathematics on what he THINKS Bill makes
and collects as a reuslt of ARN requests for solicitations, however hasn't yet
ponied up a single dime's worth of VALID references to ANY "wrongdoing".

He's going to keep it up, and if and when Bill comes out, he'll come out
swinging...With a lawsuit....

And he'd be right to do so....

73

Steve, K4YZ

"Dialing..."

Hi, hi!

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

I lean towards raving.

Finally, a truth.

Nursie RAVES, RANTS, INSULTS, SHOUTS, Hollers, and does the
YELL-YELL to anyone who disagrees with him... :-)

Nice image of a modern day amateur extra?

Tsk, tsk...NO "respect" for anyone else!

[hmmm...I wonder if all that angry energy can be harnessed...might
be the answer to fulfilling the demand for more energy in TN...]

LHA / WMD

Perhaps the TVA could damn him and meter out all of that misdirected
energy for useful purposes? Hi, hi.

Nursie IS the Tennessee Valley Authority!!! Ho ho.

:-)

LHA / WMD

Then they've damned him. ;^)

I hope he can "hold his water...." :-)

LHA / WMD

Doesn't need to. He's on Auto-Dialing....