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August 23rd 04, 07:13 PM
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Subject: Back At Ya, Brain.....
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 8/22/2004 3:11 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: ARS License Numbers From: (William) Date: 8/21/2004 3:04 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Steve, you're merely a short, chubby, frustrated, middle-aged, sick, uniform seeking has-been who has been off his medications for far too long to return to a normal life. Hmmmm.....I'm 5' 9" and 195. For a person you allege to be "short, chubby" and "sick", I fall well within what Docs would LIKE to see at "my age". Sorry, nursie, but you are looking at the WRONG medical charts. 195 is too heavy for that height. "DR HOWARD, DR FINE DR ANDERSON..." Please remind us of your healthcare certifications, licensure, education or training, Lennie...?!?!? Not bad for a fella nearing 50. Tsk. 51 years ago I began working REAL HF communications. Big time. Where was nursie then? I can guarantee you I wasn't making up stories about my army "career" a the expense of my character, Lennie. Why not try Lennie's tact and come at me with "Dill Sergeant" and "Nursie". Poor NURSIE. Complain, complain that others just don't like the PCTA Double Standard in here. Tsk. It wasn't a complaint, Lennie. You're quoting out of context again. Oh, I don't mind a bit of personal embarassment, Brain. It's when you lose that ability to objectively look at yourself that you REALLY lose yourself. Take Lennie for example...Poor fella lost sight of objectivity decades ago and NOW look at him...Pandering in a newsgroup for an avocation that he's not a part of...and for what...??? Not "pandering." Sure you are. Just showing that the morse code test for a radio license is old, tired, worn-out, and just something that a few can do to make themselves artificial "big men" in amateur radio. How can you show that, Lennie? You have no experience in Amateur Radio by which to make a balanced, objective, informed opinion on the subject. Tsk, tsk. I've spent over a half century in a radio-electronics career, as a working professional. And not one minute of it practical experience in Amateur Radio. Continue to accuse boy scout leaders of being pederasts and molesters of young boys. And this isn't true? Betchya there's a half dozen such stories a month alledging exactly that, Lennie. Are you saying that ALL those stories in the non-Amateur Radio press are in fact untrue? Continue to label the University of Illinois as a "correspondence school." And the same with Beloit College, University of Wisconsin at Madison, and so forth. I don't see any evidence that anything OTHER than a correspondence course may have been attended, Lennie. And I am certainly not opening any e mail from you. Continue with your "non-profane" comments about "having a head up the ass of another newsgroup enemy." I have never mad a comment about "having a head up the ass of another newsgroup enemy." YOU can't decide what your "correct name" is, so why do you insist anyone else should? Manufacturing an "issue." Tsk. Not of MY "manufacture", Lennie. Your boy was the one whining about not being addressed by his "correct" name, yet hides it behind an anonymous addresses and fake names. Nursie claims he can "call authorities to have anyone committed" because of some idiot idea of professional qualifications. I never said I can "have anyone committed". You quoted out of context again, but that is, of course, your trademark. I've never called you a "penis", Brain. I even doubt you have one, but that's just a guess based upon the character of your posts here... "Putz" is a Yiddish pejorative standing for penis. "...standing for penis", or IS penis...?!?! You CAN verify that. And, you HAVE called both myself and Brian that many times! If the shoe fits, Lennie... I never called you a homosexual. You've never called him a heterosexual, either. Should I...??? Can you prove it? That he may have been a sperm donor does not validate his sexual orientation. Like YOU would know what a "civil reply" is, Brain? I thought we had a couple weeks of that a couple months ago...then as soon as Lennie revisited the room after a short respite, you launched right back into the same old song and dance...So PLEASE don't insult anyone with the suggestion that YOU represent a hallmark of "civility", Brain...It doesn't "wash"... Tsk, tsk, tsk! Incorrect comments by poor, offended nursie. Not incorrect. Brian Burke did very good on his own in here WHILE I was gone. [it's archived in Google...:-)] Brain...WHO? You mean "BillyBeeper"...?!?! Or "William"...?!?! PCTA extras can say anything and it is ALWAYS civil and truthful! Civil? Not always. Truthful? You haven't proved otherwise. Putz. Steve, K4YZ |
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August 24th 04, 12:33 AM
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Subject: Back At Ya, Brian.....
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , Please remind us of your healthcare certifications, licensure, education or training, Lennie...?!?!? NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR electronics qualifications? Over 30 years in Amateur Radio. Eighteen and an half in USMC Avionics. NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR military radio qualifications? More than you. By a mile. You were nothing more than a radio mechanic. That's ALL the evidence you have ever provided this forum. YOU were NEVER a "military radio operator". NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR civilian commercial radio qualifications? None. Not pertinent in an AMATUER RADIO forum. NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR "hostile action" qualifications? Not pertinent in an AMATEUR RADIO forum. NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR electronics engineering department expertise (after spending less than half a year as a purchasing agent in a set-top box maker) qualifications? I didn't work for a "set top box maker", Lennie. The "company" I worked for was a subsidiary. I was not an employee of ANTEC. You were told this before, but still try to use it as a diminuitive. It doesn't work. NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR long career in commercial industry in any other field of work? Not pertinent in an AMATEUR RADIO forum, Lennie. NURSIE, please remind us of YOUR qualifications to read federal agency documents and directives and then bluffingly blurt "MARS IS amateur radio"? Sorry Lennie, it is. No Amateur Radio, No MARS. They can re-name it, repackage it, do whatever they want to it, but in it's current embodiment, take away Amateur Radio and there is NO MARS. That's a fact that even YOU can't spin out of. Not bad for a fella nearing 50. Tsk. 51 years ago I began working REAL HF communications. Big time. Where was nursie then? I can guarantee you I wasn't making up stories about my army "career" a the expense of my character, Lennie. NURSIE, I've NOT had to "make up anything" about my military service. Sure you have. You have repeatedly tried to bluff your way into a more "robust" military career by trying to link your "service" at a rear area relay station in Japan with the deaths of Army KIA's in Korea. That in and of itself makes you a creep of unfathomable depth. It's all on documents at NARA in St. Louis. Not the parts you tried to push off on us here. I am sure you are sorry you got caught doing it, but you did. Sucks to be you. It's in the experiences of other hams such as Gene, N2JTV, who served WITH me at the same time. Too bad Gene didn't get a chance to read some of the cowardly crap you pulled in here. It's even in the Pacific edition of the military newspaper Stars and Stripes, in their 10 November 2002 edition...including six photos that I took. Whoopie doo. Two pictures I took wound up in Naval Air News and that has a far wider distribution that PacS&S. So give me a Pulitzer. Neither my release from military service (as an E-5 sergeant) nor my Honorable Discharge papers have anything about any "medical release" conditions prompting any early exit. And that has WHAT to do with your rantings in an AMATEUR RADIO forum, Lennie? I served, did my job, got promoted regularly, had an interesting experience that sold me on REAL radio communications...which led to a major career goal change that I followed. And that has WHAT to do with your rantings in an AMATEUR RADIO forum, Lennie? NURSIE, you keep claiming I was a "radio clerk" and "dishonor the men of my unit." I told you my MOS in a description (that's also on the NARA documents) as a supervisory rank in microwave radio relay operations and maintenance and I told you I HONOR the men of my military unit who died while on duty. Your MOS has nothing to do with ANYthing, Lennie, this forum especially. As for your "dishonor", it comes from your rantings in this forum wherein you tried to embellish your own "career" by somehow trying to link it with Army KIA's that occured three years and 300 miles away. If you wish to say that the National Archives and Records Administration "LIE" then that's your crazy distortion of reality. I don't dispute your alleged MOS or that you were in Japan, Lennie...Not by a mile. What I "dispute" is your cowardly attempts to link that service with the guys in Korea. I still have a list of ALL the names of members of my Signal Battalion who died on duty, before and after I served that unit. I HONOR their memory. They were signalmen, serving their country. I am PROUD to have served in that unit. I am sure you are proud Lennie. You just have a hard time seperating THEIR sacrifice from YOUR rantings. Why not try Lennie's tact and come at me with "Dill Sergeant" and "Nursie". Poor NURSIE. Complain, complain that others just don't like the PCTA Double Standard in here. Tsk. It wasn't a complaint, Lennie. You're quoting out of context again. No, quoting myself. You are a NURSE. You ACT like a DILL (not "drill") sergeant...one can see your pursed lips as you shout emotion-filled orders, sour of mind, trying to chew out those who don't agree with your opinions. One can only "see" those things, Lennie, because in order for your rants to work for you you HAVE to believe that's true. It's not. It's a loss of continuity with reality on your part. Sucks to be you. Sorry, NURSIE, a hobby is NOT "for the corps, god, and country." Not for YOU it isn't, Lennie. Other than being obnoxious and antagonistic, you have no commitment to ANYthing, and I think that's what twists your shorts most about Amateur Radio...everyday people doing things that you somehow think only YOU are qualified to do. Oh, I don't mind a bit of personal embarassment, Brain. It's when you lose that ability to objectively look at yourself that you REALLY lose yourself. Take Lennie for example...Poor fella lost sight of objectivity decades ago and NOW look at him...Pandering in a newsgroup for an avocation that he's not a part of...and for what...??? Not "pandering." Sure you are. Pander: "1. a procurer, pinp; 2. one who helps others satisfy their vices." [dictionary definition] And that's exactly what you are doing. Pimping yourself as the embodiment of radio gratification. Problem is you ahven't figured out that we prefer to use radios. Not I. I'm just trying to influence the elimination of the morse code test for any U.S. radio license. No, you're not. You're doing your "best" to be antagonistic. The FCC already set the tone for the elimination of the Code test over a decade ago. Ergo your actions here are meant to be nothing more than boil on Amateur Radio. In that effort you are succeeding. What I encounter is a rather fantastic antagonism from the PCTA who insist that such things are "incorrect," "in error," etc. and immediately try to misdirect the subject by making all kinds of pejorative personal comments as alleged "replies." The really great thing is that the "...kinds of pejorative personal comments" are just icing on the cake. It hasn't taken much to let the air out of most of your rantings, Lennie. Just showing that the morse code test for a radio license is old, tired, worn-out, and just something that a few can do to make themselves artificial "big men" in amateur radio. How can you show that, Lennie? You have no experience in Amateur Radio by which to make a balanced, objective, informed opinion on the subject. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Let NURSIE chew on the following: NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in national politics to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on national politics, yet blithers on in here about that. Sure I do. I am a registered voter and have voted in every presidential and congressional election since I turned 18. I missed some Ohio state elections when overseas in 82 and 88. Oh well. NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in national economics to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on economics, yet blithers on in here about that. Sure I do. I pay taxes and have been involved in several state and local tax propositions. NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in electronics engineering to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on national politics, yet blithers on in here about that. Whoa! I need to be an electronics engineer in order to discuss "national politics"...?!?! Lennie, you're slathering all over the keyboard again! You've got your short in such a twist you can't even keep your insults straight...! ! ! ! BBWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! !! NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in military communications to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on military radio, yet blithers on in here about that. Sorry. Wrong. NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in commercial communications to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on commercial radio, yet blithers on in here about that. I don't "blither on" in this forum about "commercial communications". That's YOUR schtick. hasn't worked in the last 10 years, it doesn't work now. NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in aerospace and spaceflight to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on space subjects, yet blithers on in here about that. And YOU do...?!?! BBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! NURSIE has NO EXPERIENCE in magazine publishing on a national scale to make any balanced, objective informed opinion on anything in publishiing, yet blithers on in here about that. YOUR "experience" in "publishiing" was in a magazine that went toes-up with you as an "associate editor. And by YOUR "rules of engagement", we can assume that your typo demonstrates YOUR enraged state. NURSIE can only hold up his beloved AMATEUR license and make hisself into a god of radio far superior to others. Nope. Just an example of how much fun you can have with a radio in public, Lennie. Please tell us of all the FUN things YOU have done with a radio lately! Tsk, tsk. I've spent over a half century in a radio-electronics career, as a working professional. And not one minute of it practical experience in Amateur Radio. Incorrect. I have NOT been licensed as any AMATEUR radio operator...only as a COMMERCIAL, professional radio operator. And you STILL do NOT have any practical experience in AMATEUR RADIO. NURSIE wishes to dismiss any electronics hobbyist of any electronic field other than amateur radio who does not have that beloved AMATEUR license. Why? Why indeed. I've never said any such thing. You're lying again, Lennie. YOU do not happen to have an Amateur license. You are a monumental creep, which means I don't like you. There have been many "non-Amateur" posters in here for whom I have great respect. I HAD respect for you at one time, but then you launched into the Nazi rants. Continue to accuse boy scout leaders of being pederasts and molesters of young boys. And this isn't true? NURSIE has directly insulted Brian Burke of that in here. He lent himself to it. Sorry. He should pay attention to what he writes, how he wrties it, and whom he writes it about. Continue to label the University of Illinois as a "correspondence school." And the same with Beloit College, University of Wisconsin at Madison, and so forth. I don't see any evidence that anything OTHER than a correspondence course may have been attended, Lennie. Poor Diminutive Man, still on the INSULT trail. Write the University of Illinois and ask them about "correspondence courses." Use a website if you don't know how to put it civily on paper. And I am certainly not opening any e mail from you. Why? Are you AFRAID? Nope. You've just demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not a trustworthy person. Continue with your "non-profane" comments about "having a head up the ass of another newsgroup enemy." I have never mad a comment about "having a head up the ass of another newsgroup enemy." Incorrect. You've insulted Brian Burke of doing just that. And so far, with your "rush to his rescue" rantings in this thread in the last 24 hours, you've proven me ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. YOU can't decide what your "correct name" is, so why do you insist anyone else should? Manufacturing an "issue." Tsk. Not of MY "manufacture", Lennie. Yes it is. AOL allows up to 7 screen names for any subscriber. This is not about "screen names", Lennie. It's about having the gonads to sign your name to your opinions. As an AOL subscriber yourself you SHOULD know that. AOL's service is not germane here, Lennie. My LEGAL NAME is fine, has never been changed. When you use it. And this was not about you. It was about Brian P Burke misrepresenting his identity and not being man enough or having the conviction to stand behind his opinions. Of course you have a way of trying to make EVERY post ABOUT you. NURSIE's legal name is NOT "K4CAP." It isn't "K4YZ" either. Nope. It's not. But anyone participating in this forum who has the least little knowledge of Amateur Radio can put either callsign into "QRZ.COM" or most other callsign servers and get my name, address and other information pertient to my licensure in AMATEUR RADIO. Unfortunately for you, any person doing the same for "Leonard H. Anderson" will only get the now-expired license information for a now-expired person. My LEGAL NAME has appeared in publication bylines in national and international printed publications. Whoopie doo. So has mine. Your boy was the one whining about not being addressed by his "correct" name, yet hides it behind an anonymous addresses and fake names. Try to figure out what is "correct" and what is "wrong." In REALITY. Sure. I sign my name to my posts which are attached to a screen name that includes my Amateur Radio callsign. Your Padawan Learner and lap-sitting puppet uses a bogus e mail address which is alternately signed as "William" or "Billy Beeper", neither of which are his given names. We can give him the benefit of the doubt when he just signs it "bb", since it's as close to his real name as he will sign anything. THAT is REALITY, Lennie. Brian Burke never tried to hide his identity. He used a different screen name to avoid spamming. That is a legitmate process. Except the first three weeks when he used it wherein he tried to misrepresent who he really was, having even blatantly denied to be a "regular"...Until one day he let his mouth get ahead of his common sense and he forgot which one he was using. NURSIE never challenged the screen name of "Quitefine" yet that pseudonym has been outed in here as another PCTA extra. Would NURSIE rather have a jumble of numbers and letters as a "real" screen name? Under NURSIE rules, that would be WRONG. Yet thousands upon thousands of Internetters use those screen names. There are no "NURSIE rules" about the screen name, Lennie. It's what someone does with it and how they sign it at the bottom. SPAMBOT's can't read "Steve, K4YZ" as any form of valid address with which to send spam. The ONLY reason for NOT signing one's name to a post is a lack of conviction in it's content. Nursie claims he can "call authorities to have anyone committed" because of some idiot idea of professional qualifications. I never said I can "have anyone committed". Tsk, tsk, tsk. NURSIE THREATENED to do that. Let's see NURSIE ACTUALLY DO THAT ACT. NURSIE can't follow through...can't back up what he said... Would you REALLY want me to have a conversation about you with persons in a positon to involuntarilly restrain you for evaluation, Lennie...?!?! Are you SO STUPID as to think that those resources wouldn't be able to evaluate your behaviour herein? I've never called you a "penis", Brain. I even doubt you have one, but that's just a guess based upon the character of your posts here... "Putz" is a Yiddish pejorative standing for penis. Which is NURSIE's "civil discourse" style in here. I see... And "Nazi", "thug", etc etc etc is somehow "OK"...?!?! Truthful? You haven't proved otherwise. Nonsense wording, trying to manufacture another dispute. Not "nonsense wording". You have yet to prove me untruthful, Lennie. It really is THAT simple. NURSIE doesn't accept proof, will not communicate with any references, cannot do anything that would upset his INSULTS. Do you REALLY want your friends and neighbors to start reading this forum and see how you act? If you do, I am sure we could make your conduct in this forum well known OUTside this forum. NURSIE manufactures "statements" from "others" about my personal character. Those are outright LIES, manufactured out of thin air, cannot be referenced, are all FALSE. No...They are not. The reputation you earned WAS earned by you. I know that you think you were so universally loved and adored, but you weren't..still aren't...again due to YOUR behaviour. That is the sort of "civil discourse" all readers have come to expect. As well as that wonderful sign-off (more "civil discourse"): Putz. Ptui. You still haven't disproven any of my assertions. You ARE still a lying, antagonistic, disreputable putz. Sucks to be you. Steve, K4YZ |
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August 24th 04, 01:50 AM
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Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: Back At Ya, Brian..... From: (Len Over 21) Date: 8/23/2004 3:51 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , Your boy was the one whining about not being addressed by his "correct" name, yet hides it behind an anonymous addresses and fake names. Try to figure out what is "correct" and what is "wrong." In REALITY. Sure. I sign my name to my posts which are attached to a screen name that includes my Amateur Radio callsign. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Your AOL screen name is FALSE. :-) Your Padawan Learner and lap-sitting puppet uses a bogus e mail address which is alternately signed as "William" or "Billy Beeper", neither of which are his given names. We can give him the benefit of the doubt when he just signs it "bb", since it's as close to his real name as he will sign anything. I have no "lap sitter" outside of any of the three cats here. :-) In newsgroups there is NO real "signing." There's no provision for actual SIGNING of anything. The closest one can come is a digital coding...which you do NOT use. :-) "K4CAP" is NOT your legal amateur callsign, is it? :-) THAT is REALITY, Lennie. Poor NURSIE, still trying for a comeback and never was... Brian Burke never tried to hide his identity. He used a different screen name to avoid spamming. That is a legitmate process. Except the first three weeks when he used it wherein he tried to misrepresent who he really was, having even blatantly denied to be a "regular"...Until one day he let his mouth get ahead of his common sense and he forgot which one he was using. "Regulars" in here are nearly all PCTA extras...and employing the very super special PCTA Double Standard on their single entendres. NURSIE never challenged the screen name of "Quitefine" yet that pseudonym has been outed in here as another PCTA extra. Would NURSIE rather have a jumble of numbers and letters as a "real" screen name? Under NURSIE rules, that would be WRONG. Yet thousands upon thousands of Internetters use those screen names. There are no "NURSIE rules" about the screen name, Lennie. Yes there are! NURSIE and QUITEFINE rules. "Quitefine" made a big huhu a while back about "signatures." A nice misdirection which went nowhere. It's what someone does with it and how they sign it at the bottom. "Spambots" do NOT read the "signature" at the end of a message. Those can read the HEADER information. In your case, the callsign K4CAP is NO LONGER VALID! Sunnuvagun! The ONLY reason for NOT signing one's name to a post is a lack of conviction in it's content. Bovine excrement. Nursie claims he can "call authorities to have anyone committed" because of some idiot idea of professional qualifications. I never said I can "have anyone committed". Tsk, tsk, tsk. NURSIE THREATENED to do that. Let's see NURSIE ACTUALLY DO THAT ACT. NURSIE can't follow through...can't back up what he said... Would you REALLY want me to have a conversation about you with persons in a positon to involuntarilly restrain you for evaluation, Lennie...?!?! You cannot do so legally, posturing little ptui. Now...GO AHEAD AND TRY IT. Are you SO STUPID as to think that those resources wouldn't be able to evaluate your behaviour herein? Non sequitur. You were SO STUPID as to make that claim in the first place. You do NOT have the authority to do so. All you do is lay on some stupid little emotional yell-yell and think others are even more stupid that yourself. Okay...MAKE THAT CALL. I've never called you a "penis", Brain. I even doubt you have one, but that's just a guess based upon the character of your posts here... "Putz" is a Yiddish pejorative standing for penis. Which is NURSIE's "civil discourse" style in here. I see... And "Nazi", "thug", etc etc etc is somehow "OK"...?!?! Google is chock full of "Putz" sign-offs by NURSIE. Nonsense wording, trying to manufacture another dispute. Not "nonsense wording". You have yet to prove me untruthful, Lennie. It really is THAT simple. NURSIE rejects facts, doesn't check references, manufactures LIES about what she says are "facts" and generally misbehaves in an uncivil manner using any manner of pejoratives to suit her purpose. ...and it really IS THAT SIMPLE. Quod Erat Demonstrandum. NURSIE doesn't accept proof, will not communicate with any references, cannot do anything that would upset his INSULTS. Do you REALLY want your friends and neighbors to start reading this forum and see how you act? No problem to me. They know me. :-) If you do, I am sure we could make your conduct in this forum well known OUTside this forum. Neither "you" nor those others in that "we" can't do it and have it truthful. Now quit shaking your "we we" and trying to threaten. It doesn't work. NURSIE manufactures "statements" from "others" about my personal character. Those are outright LIES, manufactured out of thin air, cannot be referenced, are all FALSE. No...They are not. The reputation you earned WAS earned by you. NURSIE manufactures "statements" from "others" about my personal character. Those are outright LIES, manufactured out of thin air, cannot be referenced, are all FALSE. No matter how hard NURSIE tries to misdirect, my repeated paragraph is TRUE. NURSIE rejects facts, doesn't check references, manufactures LIES about what she says are "facts" and generally misbehaves in an uncivil manner using any manner of pejoratives to suit her purpose. I know that you think you were so universally loved and adored, but you weren't..still aren't...again due to YOUR behaviour. You are WRONG. I've never looked for "love" on any computer-modem communications. You seem to be into "transference," that strange psychological twist wherein the sufferer projects her own thoughts, ideas, emotions onto others. All I'm doing in this post is giving you some well-deserved return fire. You are inundated by it. You can't fight it. All you can do is rationalize your insult technique by the PCTA extra Double Standard....which only proves (once again) that you just cannot abide one single little opposite opinion. Tsk, tsk, tsk. You still haven't disproven any of my assertions. Actually, your own postings did that long ago and continued to do so for years. For example: "Sorry Hans, MARS IS amateur radio!" "Seven hostile actions" without any further details of Where or When. NURSIE still can't understand she be so WRONG on so many things! You ARE still a lying, antagonistic, disreputable putz. Poor baby. Still so ANGRY. Still so OBSESSED with trying to insult others instead of addressing subjects. Sucks to be you. Only when I run the vacuum cleaner... :-) Now quit using your little Yiddish pejorative for "penis" to prove YOU are capable of "civil discourse." :-) But...you can't STOP. You are obsessed with the idea and cannot stop. Ptui. |
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