Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/11/2004 10:11 PM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except
within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

I believe I have repeatedly stated "...Part 15 and Part 95 operation
notwithstanding" as it pertains to Lennie's "HF" operating, Brain.

And Lennie STILL can't operate any radio station on HF without an FCC
issued station license, Part 15 and Part 95 notwithstanding...

BTW, Brain, Your Mentor spent some amount of time bragging about how he
could/would get on "HF" per Part 15 within the Amateur Bands, however has yet
to do it. Wonder what's keeping him...?!?!

Wonder how long it takes a professional radio engineer to slap together
enough 2n2222's to emit Part 15 level RF ...???

Sheeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

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Len may not operate radio equipment
under Part 97 of the FCC regs.

Len may operate -amateur- radio equipment while you are the control
operator.

Like hell he will with me as the control op.

There's the amateur spirit.

Neither regulation nor etiquette mandate that I entertain a churl.

Dave K8MN

Just think of it; you might be able to turn Len from the Dark Side.

Heh heh, the Darth Vader of RRAP "turning someone from the
dark side?!?"

Hi hi.

Ackshully, "Darth" Heil manages to entertain himself mightily.

That would make him his own "churl." :-)

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(Len Over 21) writes:

Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of
potential emergency radio operators.

A valid point.

However, Len does not
agree that amateur radio plays
any significant role in emergency
communications.

Must Len agree with everything?

Awwww, cut it out, "William"! My sides hurt from laughing.

Dave K8MN


Maybe it's bad branch water affecting your kidneys.

Think of it as a "do or die-uretic" he regularly uses... :-)

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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/11/2004 10:11 PM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except
within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

I believe I have repeatedly stated "...Part 15 and Part 95 operation
notwithstanding" as it pertains to Lennie's "HF" operating, Brain.

You may beleive that, but I don't. I guess you forgot to repeat it
this time.

And Lennie STILL can't operate any radio station on HF without an FCC
issued station license, Part 15 and Part 95 notwithstanding...

Really?

BTW, Brain, Your Mentor spent some amount of time bragging about how he
could/would get on "HF" per Part 15 within the Amateur Bands, however has yet
to do it. Wonder what's keeping him...?!?!

How would you know? Do you think a 6-land station would make a DX
spot?

Wonder how long it takes a professional radio engineer to slap together
enough 2n2222's to emit Part 15 level RF ...???

Ask Jim. He even knows how long it would take Bruce to ace the Extra
written w/o studying.

Sheeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

Sheeeesh indeed.

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(Len Over 21) writes:

By the way, since your Lordship doesn't understand it, I'm NOT
itching to get that mighty Nobel-quality amateur license...I'm just
trying to argue for the elimination of the morse code test for any
radio operator license.

Why?

If you have no interest in
becoming a radio amateur,
why do you attempt to
change the rules?

Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of
potential emergency radio operators.

A valid point.

However, Len does not
agree that amateur radio plays
any significant role in emergency
communications.

Must Len agree with everything?

No.

However, logical consistency
requires that if someone is
going to claim make the
emergency radio operator
argument, then they must also
agree that amateur radio plays
a significant role in emergency
communications.

Of course, we have noted that
logical consistency is not one of
Len's strong points.


Some people say that cellular
telephones have no significant role in emergency communications,

Those people are mistaken.

yet
about every footage of hurricane action film depicted an official with
a cellular telephone.

Of course.

Some people say that amateur radio
has no significant role in emergency
communications, because of cellilar phones.

They are mistaken, too.

The valid point is that cellular phones
cannot
be absolutely relied upon for emergency
communications.

You just never know when you
might need one,

If so, why have any tests at all?

Because we already have a radio service without tests which can be
used for emergency communications.

What radio service is that?

How well does it function in emergencies?

and Morse Code just isn't needed to be an effective
emergency radio operator.

Morse Code has had a role
in some emergency communications
recently. These are well documented
by people who participated.

Do tell.

Even today.

However, to claim that every
radio amateur must be tested on Morse
Code because there might someday be
a need to use it in an emergency is quite
a stretch of credibility.

An incredible stretch.

Most incredible, to be quite accurate.

It is clear that Len's interest goes far
beyond
eliminating the Morse Code test.\

He wants to eliminate the morse code test.

And much more.

To quote a wise one:

"It is not the Morse, but the hatred"

I'm not familiar with that wise one. Who is it?

Blackguard Vox Deus

He/she has demonstrated
wisdom here.

Repeatedly.

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There is no difficulty
in conversing with Len.

All anyone must do is agree
with everything he writes,
and he becomes a pussycat.

Disagree with him, and the
difficulties begin.

I've disagreed with Len without difficulty. I said that I liked
KH2D, even though I disagree with his position on the code testing
issue. Jim's a pretty decent guy.

The exception which proves the rule.

The vast majority who dare to disagree
with Len have had different experiences.

Try disagreeing with Len about the Morse
Code test issue, and see how he behaves.




Go to his website and read about the war.

Is that an order?

Very insightful (or should
it be inciteful?).

http://www.kh2d.net/

Which war?

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(Len Over 21) writes:

I am fully qualified, by long experience and training
to "operate" radio equipment.

The FCC does not think so.



I'm just not AUTHORIZED to emit
RF within U.S. amateur radio bands as a civilian.

You are neither qualified nor authorized to
operate an amateur radio station.

Your opinion on the issue does not matter.
Our opinion on the issue does not matter.
FCC's opinion on the issue does matter.

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Len may not operate radio equipment
under Part 97 of the FCC regs.

Len may operate -amateur- radio equipment while you are the control operator.

Like hell he will with me as the control op.

There's the amateur spirit.

Neither regulation nor etiquette mandate that I entertain a churl.

Just think of it; you might be able to turn Len from the Dark Side.

I don't think of Len as someone from the dark side. I think of him as a
flake.

Dave K8MN

Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/12/2004 6:14 PM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: (William)
Date: 9/11/2004 10:11 PM Central Standard Time
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Subject: Canadian No Code Proposal Open For Comment
From: Dave Heil
Date: 9/10/2004 11:48 PM Central Standard Time
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Nor is Lennie AUTHORIZED to emit RF within any OTHER band, except
within
the limits of the STATION LICENSE of the person or entity who retains
his
services, and then ONLY when acting under the auspices of that license.

So sayeth the FCC.

What sayeth Part 15?

I believe I have repeatedly stated "...Part 15 and Part 95 operation
notwithstanding" as it pertains to Lennie's "HF" operating, Brain.

You may beleive that, but I don't. I guess you forgot to repeat it
this time.

There ya go with typos again after having "chastised" me on several
occassions for doing the same thing.

More of that "NCTA Double Standard" stuff.

I DO believe it. I have said it. You may ask around the NG.

Your "mentor" insists that typos are evidence of anger and rage. What are
you in an angry rage about, Brain?

And Lennie STILL can't operate any radio station on HF without an FCC
issued station license, Part 15 and Part 95 notwithstanding...

Really?

Really. It's clearly stated on the back of his GROL. It's clearly stated
on the back of EVERY GROL ticket for that matter. Again, feel free to ask
around.

No station license or grant from the FCC...No "operating".

BTW, Brain, Your Mentor spent some amount of time bragging about how
he
could/would get on "HF" per Part 15 within the Amateur Bands, however has
yet
to do it. Wonder what's keeping him...?!?!

How would you know? Do you think a 6-land station would make a DX
spot?

Does he have to?

All he has to do is say "I will be on 14.xxxMhz at xxxx Zulu in the xx
mode" in this forum.

I am sure we'd be all ears, including several "regulars" of this forum who
would actually be close enough to hear him.
\ Wonder how long it takes a professional radio engineer to slap
together
enough 2n2222's to emit Part 15 level RF ...???

Ask Jim. He even knows how long it would take Bruce to ace the Extra
written w/o studying.

We're not talking about Bruce or Jim.

Sheeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

Sheeeesh indeed.

You're looking idiotic again, Brain. Work your way out of it....

Steve, K4YZ

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(Len Over 21) writes:

Every American should have an interest in increasing the number of
potential emergency radio operators.

A valid point.

However, Len does not
agree that amateur radio plays
any significant role in emergency
communications.

Must Len agree with everything?

Awwww, cut it out, "William"! My sides hurt from laughing.

Dave K8MN

Maybe it's bad branch water affecting your kidneys.

Ever since I used the term "branch water" you seem to have had a
fascination with it.

Back to your query though: "Must Len agree with everything?"
I find it very, very funny.

We know for certain that the things he does not agree with are described
by him as "jack-booted, ober uberst, feldwebel, J-38, snarly
backgrounds, Revolutionary War, battlefields littered with, Archaic
Radiotelegraphy, Church of St. Hiram, Gunnery Nurse, Murine" and the
like.

Len's a real peach of a guy. Who wouldn't want to have him as a pal or
a neighbor?

Dave K8MN