RAC Bulletin 04-22E - Industry Canada Gazette Notice DGRB-003-04 on Morse
Code.

On Saturday, 28 August, 2004, Industry Canada published Canada Gazette
Notice DGRB-003-04 - Consultation on "Recommendations from Radio Amateurs of
Canada to Industry Canada Concerning Morse Code and Related Matters", and
invited comments. Amateurs have sixty days in which to respond.

The RAC Proposal deals with the WRC-2003 decisions concerning Morse as a
mandatory qualification for HF operation in the Amateur Service. RAC has
recommended that Industry Canada delete the mandatory requirement for Morse
testing but leave it as a voluntary qualification as it may be required for
reciprocal operation in those countries retaining a Morse requirement.

Amateurs should address comments to Industry Canada as directed in the
Notice. RAC recommends that Canadian amateurs endorse this proposal.

Amateurs with questions for RAC should direct them to their regional RAC
Director.

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html


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In article . net, "Avery
Hightower" writes:

RAC Bulletin 04-22E - Industry Canada Gazette Notice DGRB-003-04 on Morse
Code.

On Saturday, 28 August, 2004, Industry Canada published Canada Gazette
Notice DGRB-003-04 - Consultation on "Recommendations from Radio Amateurs of
Canada to Industry Canada Concerning Morse Code and Related Matters", and
invited comments. Amateurs have sixty days in which to respond.

The RAC Proposal deals with the WRC-2003 decisions concerning Morse as a
mandatory qualification for HF operation in the Amateur Service. RAC has
recommended that Industry Canada delete the mandatory requirement for Morse
testing but leave it as a voluntary qualification as it may be required for
reciprocal operation in those countries retaining a Morse requirement.

Amateurs should address comments to Industry Canada as directed in the
Notice. RAC recommends that Canadian amateurs endorse this proposal.

Amateurs with questions for RAC should direct them to their regional RAC
Director.

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

Thank you for the link!

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?

(Len Over 21) wrote in
:

In article . net,
"Avery Hightower" writes:

RAC Bulletin 04-22E - Industry Canada Gazette Notice DGRB-003-04 on
Morse Code.

On Saturday, 28 August, 2004, Industry Canada published Canada Gazette
Notice DGRB-003-04 - Consultation on "Recommendations from Radio
Amateurs of Canada to Industry Canada Concerning Morse Code and Related
Matters", and invited comments. Amateurs have sixty days in which to
respond.

The RAC Proposal deals with the WRC-2003 decisions concerning Morse as
a mandatory qualification for HF operation in the Amateur Service. RAC
has recommended that Industry Canada delete the mandatory requirement
for Morse testing but leave it as a voluntary qualification as it may
be required for reciprocal operation in those countries retaining a
Morse requirement.

Amateurs should address comments to Industry Canada as directed in the
Notice. RAC recommends that Canadian amateurs endorse this proposal.

Amateurs with questions for RAC should direct them to their regional
RAC Director.

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

Thank you for the link!

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?



I'm not Canadian, but I think it fails to follw the KISS principle. They
want to add an Intermediate licence to their Basic and Advanced. Why don't
they just abolish the 'Plus' categories (i.e. plus Morse)? That would be
much simpler.

Alun, N3KIP

"Alun" wrote in message
...
I'm not Canadian, but I think it fails to follw the KISS principle. They
want to add an Intermediate licence to their Basic and Advanced. Why don't
they just abolish the 'Plus' categories (i.e. plus Morse)? That would be
much simpler.

Alun, N3KIP

1) Perhaps things aren't always that simple.

2) Perhaps they see some value in it, hence "plus Morse."

--
73 de Bert
WA2SI

"Avery Hightower" wrote


Amateurs should address comments to Industry Canada as directed in the
Notice. RAC recommends that Canadian amateurs endorse this proposal.

Amateurs with questions for RAC should direct them to their regional
RAC
Director.

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html


I'm not Canadian, nor do I play one on TV, but this is an interesting
proposal.

It proposes full access to HF without a Morse examination. I'm in
favor.

It proposes to enhance the technical qualifications of applicants. I'm
in favor.

It neatly avoids the "great giveaway" syndrome of the ARRL proposal.
I'm in favor.

Good job, RAC! ARRL, are you listening?

73, de Hans, K0HB

In article , Alun
writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in
:

In article . net,
"Avery Hightower" writes:

RAC Bulletin 04-22E - Industry Canada Gazette Notice DGRB-003-04 on
Morse Code.

On Saturday, 28 August, 2004, Industry Canada published Canada Gazette
Notice DGRB-003-04 - Consultation on "Recommendations from Radio
Amateurs of Canada to Industry Canada Concerning Morse Code and Related
Matters", and invited comments. Amateurs have sixty days in which to
respond.

The RAC Proposal deals with the WRC-2003 decisions concerning Morse as
a mandatory qualification for HF operation in the Amateur Service. RAC
has recommended that Industry Canada delete the mandatory requirement
for Morse testing but leave it as a voluntary qualification as it may
be required for reciprocal operation in those countries retaining a
Morse requirement.

Amateurs should address comments to Industry Canada as directed in the
Notice. RAC recommends that Canadian amateurs endorse this proposal.

Amateurs with questions for RAC should direct them to their regional
RAC Director.

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

Thank you for the link!

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?



I'm not Canadian, but I think it fails to follw the KISS principle. They
want to add an Intermediate licence to their Basic and Advanced. Why don't
they just abolish the 'Plus' categories (i.e. plus Morse)? That would be
much simpler.

I'm not Canadian either as a "Carbo-American," but I think the "plus"
category is a sop to the existing Canadian mighty morsemen.
Canada must have its share of olde-fahrt hamme morsemen and
those must be "satisfied."

I have to agree with Hans Brakob in that our northern neighbor in
Norse America is doing the right thing for their future. Modernization
is long overdue. [excuse me...NORTH America...;-) ]

Industry Canada has much simpler regulations for their radio
amateurs but accomplish the same thing in the hobby.

On 01 Sep 2004 20:09:31 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:

snip

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

Thank you for the link!

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?



I'm not Canadian, but I think it fails to follw the KISS principle. They
want to add an Intermediate licence to their Basic and Advanced. Why don't
they just abolish the 'Plus' categories (i.e. plus Morse)? That would be
much simpler.

I'm not Canadian either as a "Carbo-American," but I think the "plus"
category is a sop to the existing Canadian mighty morsemen.
Canada must have its share of olde-fahrt hamme morsemen and
those must be "satisfied."

I am - and fully agree with your observation that there are -um-
a fair number of 'old school' amateurs up here, who do not believe in
the abolishment of the Code Test (approximately a third of the
respondents to the RAC survey on this subject). The RAC proposal
attempts to meet the needs of both the "Pro Morse" and "No Morse"
factions of the hobby - in quite an interesting way. Both sides win -
either path leads to a full HF-access Amateur license.

Now dat's a typically Canadian solution, eh?

I believe that the proposal is a good one - inasmuch as it provides
access to HF without the requirement of Morse testing. It does
recommend that Morse testing be made available should the applicant
desire it - I have no problem with that. Status quo - or not. Your
choice.

It recommends raising the pass marks on the exams - good idea, most
believe that they are way too low right now (60% is a pass on both the
Basic and Advanced tests currently). No issue there.

It is indeed a compromise intended to satisfy both the Morse and No
Morse factions of the hobby - but it does so with considerably more
elegance than the ARRL proposal, in my opinion.

I'm in favour of it - and my comments to that effect have been filed
with IC, as of today.


I have to agree with Hans Brakob in that our northern neighbor in
Norse America is doing the right thing for their future. Modernization
is long overdue. [excuse me...NORTH America...;-) ]

heh.....that brought back memories of Leif The Lucky from grade
school!


Industry Canada has much simpler regulations for their radio
amateurs but accomplish the same thing in the hobby.

Well said. The less regulations, the better the hobby!

......and the less I gotta remember....




73, Leo

PS - WTF is a "Carbo-American"? - never heard that one before!

"Bert Craig" wrote in message .net...
"Alun" wrote in message
...
I'm not Canadian, but I think it fails to follw the KISS principle. They
want to add an Intermediate licence to their Basic and Advanced. Why don't
they just abolish the 'Plus' categories (i.e. plus Morse)? That would be
much simpler.

Alun, N3KIP

1) Perhaps things aren't always that simple.

2) Perhaps they see some value in it, hence "plus Morse."

Great! More immigration into the USA where Morse is sacred.

Mr. Bush, Put up that Wall!

"KØHB" wrote in message .net...

Good job, RAC! ARRL, are you listening?

Good grief! Do you honestly believe the ARRL gives a rodents rectum
about amateur radio w/o the code???

Look at all of the NCT's they've attracted and held in the last dozen
years!

Like Jimmy Who, they've enabled all the jerks (K4YZ/CAP, K3LT,...) who
beat up on the cordless Techs.

Hi, hi!

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Alun
writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in
:

In article . net,
"Avery Hightower" writes:

RAC Bulletin 04-22E - Industry Canada Gazette Notice DGRB-003-04 on
Morse Code.

On Saturday, 28 August, 2004, Industry Canada published Canada Gazette
Notice DGRB-003-04 - Consultation on "Recommendations from Radio
Amateurs of Canada to Industry Canada Concerning Morse Code and Related
Matters", and invited comments. Amateurs have sixty days in which to
respond.

The RAC Proposal deals with the WRC-2003 decisions concerning Morse as
a mandatory qualification for HF operation in the Amateur Service. RAC
has recommended that Industry Canada delete the mandatory requirement
for Morse testing but leave it as a voluntary qualification as it may
be required for reciprocal operation in those countries retaining a
Morse requirement.

Amateurs should address comments to Industry Canada as directed in the
Notice. RAC recommends that Canadian amateurs endorse this proposal.

Amateurs with questions for RAC should direct them to their regional
RAC Director.

The Notice is available at:

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inter.../sf06456e.html

Thank you for the link!

Any Canadian radio amateurs care to comment on that?



I'm not Canadian, but I think it fails to follw the KISS principle. They
want to add an Intermediate licence to their Basic and Advanced. Why don't
they just abolish the 'Plus' categories (i.e. plus Morse)? That would be
much simpler.

I'm not Canadian either as a "Carbo-American," but I think the "plus"
category is a sop to the existing Canadian mighty morsemen.
Canada must have its share of olde-fahrt hamme morsemen and
those must be "satisfied."

I have to agree with Hans Brakob in that our northern neighbor in
Norse America is doing the right thing for their future. Modernization
is long overdue. [excuse me...NORTH America...;-) ]

Industry Canada has much simpler regulations for their radio
amateurs but accomplish the same thing in the hobby.

Well, there you have it.

You're no more involved in Canadian amateur radio than you are in U.S.
amateur radio.

Dave K8MN