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Steven R. Adell - KF2TI wrote in message nk.net...

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Tnx for the link.

Been awhile since you logged in here Steve.

Brian w3rv

"Steven R. Adell - KF2TI" wrote in message
k.net...
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"Current rules bar unlicensed radio emitters, such as utilities, from
disrupting licensed ones, such as hams. But the meaning of "harmful"
interference is debated. For example, Franca says, car-based hams can move
away from static."

Oh yeah - driving down the road with the power poles beside you and all you
have to do is "move away from the static." Another great quote from someone
who either doesn't know of what they speak, or just a basic liar.

ak

King Zulu wrote:
"Steven R. Adell - KF2TI" wrote in message
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"Current rules bar unlicensed radio emitters, such as utilities, from
disrupting licensed ones, such as hams. But the meaning of "harmful"
interference is debated.

As hams routinely work weak signals, any interference is harmful.
So who cares if hams can't chase weak rare DX BPL people ask...
Well, that station in distress in an emergency is likely to
be a weak signal. A regional disaster (hurricanes, earthquakes,
floods, and such) will likely take out electricity in the area
and also take out cell phone service. So the station in
distress will have to use batteries or run off a car's electrical
system, and feed a crummy antenna. Which means weak signal for
hams outside the disaster region. We don't need BPL QRM.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:57:08 GMT, Robert Casey wrote:

As hams routinely work weak signals, any interference is harmful.

"Harmful interference" is a term defined in International and US
radio law:

Harmful interference. Interference which endangers the
functioning of a radionavigation service or of other safety
services or seriously degrades, obstructs or repeatedly interrupts
a radiocommunication service operating in accordance with the
Radio Regulations.

The micturition contest will be in evaluating the terms "seriously
degrades, obstructs or repeatedly interrupts". What is "seriously"?
How much is "repeatedly"?

It will ultimately come down to whose lawyer can shout louder and
longer and whether the FCC wants to support amateur radio or BPL.

We are very lucky so far that some provider/power utility hasn't
told Riley to go fly a trombone when a warning letter is issued.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

In article , "Phil Kane"
writes:

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:57:08 GMT, Robert Casey wrote:

As hams routinely work weak signals, any interference is harmful.

"Harmful interference" is a term defined in International and US
radio law:

Harmful interference. Interference which endangers the
functioning of a radionavigation service or of other safety
services or seriously degrades, obstructs or repeatedly interrupts
a radiocommunication service operating in accordance with the
Radio Regulations.

The micturition contest will be in evaluating the terms "seriously
degrades, obstructs or repeatedly interrupts". What is "seriously"?
How much is "repeatedly"?

It will ultimately come down to whose lawyer can shout louder and
longer and whether the FCC wants to support amateur radio or BPL.

We are very lucky so far that some provider/power utility hasn't
told Riley to go fly a trombone when a warning letter is issued.

Phil, something even more basic. BPL doesn't run on batteries.
In the ham urban myth, all infrastructure will FAIL in emergencies.
Ergo, there's no BPL inteference to amateurs...all of whom have
ready-to-go standby generators and other power sources. :-)

Beep, beep.

Phil, something even more basic. BPL doesn't run on batteries.
In the ham urban myth, all infrastructure will FAIL in emergencies.
Ergo, there's no BPL inteference to amateurs..

The hams in the disaster area need to talk to hams located outside the
disaster area, where the electricity and BPL systems are
still alive.

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Phil, something even more basic. BPL doesn't run on batteries.
In the ham urban myth, all infrastructure will FAIL in emergencies.
Ergo, there's no BPL inteference to amateurs..

The hams in the disaster area need to talk to hams located outside the
disaster area, where the electricity and BPL systems are
still alive.

Good point. :-)

Having been IN an emergency situation when ALL the electrical
power to 10 million were cut off, the existing infrastructure got
busy with repairs and rescue anyway...using VHF-UHF which
aren't supposed to be affected by the present-day BPL.

Sunnuvagun!

Robert Casey wrote in message ...
Phil, something even more basic. BPL doesn't run on batteries.
In the ham urban myth, all infrastructure will FAIL in emergencies.
Ergo, there's no BPL inteference to amateurs..

The hams in the disaster area need to talk to hams located outside the
disaster area, where the electricity and BPL systems are
still alive.

Sounds like a switch to CW. Always gets thru.