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"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
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[excerpt from link]

[Powell, an open proponent of BPL, played host to Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission Pat Wood III as they toured various sites in Manassas, the site
of a BPL field trial, and explained why BPL may be another broadband option.

The ARRL's motion asserts that Powell "either knew or should have known that
his participation in that presentation is in clear violation of Section
1.1203 of the Commission's Rules." As a result, the League said, the FCC's
consideration of a Report and Order in the proceeding "is irrevocably
tainted." ]

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The technically inept and politically captive Michael K. Powell should never
have been nominated or approved as FCC Chairman. Some slight evidence of
technical comprehension should be required for the position.

ak

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:30:08 GMT, "King Zulu"
wrote:


"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
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http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/10/13/1/?nc=1


[excerpt from link]

[Powell, an open proponent of BPL, played host to Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission Pat Wood III as they toured various sites in Manassas, the site
of a BPL field trial, and explained why BPL may be another broadband option.

The ARRL's motion asserts that Powell "either knew or should have known that
his participation in that presentation is in clear violation of Section
1.1203 of the Commission's Rules." As a result, the League said, the FCC's
consideration of a Report and Order in the proceeding "is irrevocably
tainted." ]

- - - - -
The technically inept and politically captive Michael K. Powell should never
have been nominated or approved as FCC Chairman. Some slight evidence of
technical comprehension should be required for the position.

ak


To follow-up: I watched the FCC Open Agenda Meeting this
morning and Chairman Powell's non-verbal response to the ARRL request
was "Stuff it, I'm not recusing myself." He voted in favor of the R&O
proposed by the OET branch of the FCC.
However, I also read the emergency request from the ARRL and
there were flaws in the document, namely the date of the meeting was
listed as the 12th, not the 14th. The Chairman might have felt
inclined to disregard the request, given that oversight by the ARRL
general counsel given that bureaucrats generally need precise facts,
including the dates of a meeting like this.
Hopefully, ARRL will get their facts straight next time
around, eh??

--
Dan, KD8AGU
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:30:08 GMT, "King Zulu"
wrote:


"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
om...
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/10/13/1/?nc=1


[excerpt from link]

[Powell, an open proponent of BPL, played host to Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission Pat Wood III as they toured various sites in Manassas, the site
of a BPL field trial, and explained why BPL may be another broadband option.

The ARRL's motion asserts that Powell "either knew or should have known that
his participation in that presentation is in clear violation of Section
1.1203 of the Commission's Rules." As a result, the League said, the FCC's
consideration of a Report and Order in the proceeding "is irrevocably
tainted." ]

- - - - -
The technically inept and politically captive Michael K. Powell should never
have been nominated or approved as FCC Chairman. Some slight evidence of
technical comprehension should be required for the position.

ak


To follow-up: I watched the FCC Open Agenda Meeting this
morning and Chairman Powell's non-verbal response to the ARRL request
was "Stuff it, I'm not recusing myself." He voted in favor of the R&O
proposed by the OET branch of the FCC.
However, I also read the emergency request from the ARRL and
there were flaws in the document, namely the date of the meeting was
listed as the 12th, not the 14th. The Chairman might have felt
inclined to disregard the request, given that oversight by the ARRL
general counsel given that bureaucrats generally need precise facts,
including the dates of a meeting like this.
Hopefully, ARRL will get their facts straight next time
around, eh??

...... hey, they tried ....nobody is perfect....?

The good news is that Powell knows ham radio is really, really, REALLY
out here.

The bad news might be that given a Bush win this year then eight more
years of a similarly-minded follow-on Republican regime conceivably we
could have Powell
running the FCC for another twelve years and gunning for our butts the
whole time.

Arrgh.

w3rv

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Kelly"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:24 AM
Subject: The War Heats Up: The ARRL Goes After Powell


AK, so make a recommendation in every comment that you make to the FCC
that the Chairman must hold an Amateur Radio License or GROL. Best of
Luck.

And an EE + LLD . . .

Actually, knowing something about the technology the FCC Chairman has
authority over does not require an amateur radio license, although that
would suggest some minimal amount of comprehension of the medium he/she is
administering. The LLD (Doctor of Laws) is always problematic. An LLD
suggests many ethical character problems and a mind generally not
interested in real-world science or engineering. An experienced FCC field
engineer who understands both the technology of radio and the politics of
Congress, as well as the politics of the many communications special
interest groups, would most likely be the best candidate for FCC Chairman. I
believe that in days gone by, FCC engineers were promoted (actually
nominated and approved by Congress) to Commissioners. Don't know if any made
it to Chairman. For sure, they wouldn't stand for today's BPL stupidity and
nonsense.

ak

"King Zulu" wrote in message news:coRbd.251927$D%.224949@attbi_s51...
----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Kelly"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:24 AM
Subject: The War Heats Up: The ARRL Goes After Powell


AK, so make a recommendation in every comment that you make to the FCC
that the Chairman must hold an Amateur Radio License or GROL. Best of
Luck.

And an EE + LLD . . .

Actually, knowing something about the technology the FCC Chairman has
authority over does not require an amateur radio license,

That's why I said to make that recommendation, rather than make them
comply. This would then lend a smidgen of credibility to the claims
that non-amateurs should have no say in amateur radio rules.

although that
would suggest some minimal amount of comprehension of the medium he/she is
administering.

Certainly more than the current director has.

William wrote:

"King Zulu" wrote in message news:coRbd.251927$D%.224949@attbi_s51...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Kelly"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:24 AM
Subject: The War Heats Up: The ARRL Goes After Powell



AK, so make a recommendation in every comment that you make to the FCC
that the Chairman must hold an Amateur Radio License or GROL. Best of
Luck.

And an EE + LLD . . .

Actually, knowing something about the technology the FCC Chairman has
authority over does not require an amateur radio license,


That's why I said to make that recommendation, rather than make them
comply. This would then lend a smidgen of credibility to the claims
that non-amateurs should have no say in amateur radio rules.

although that

would suggest some minimal amount of comprehension of the medium he/she is
administering.


Certainly more than the current director has.

The current guy is called into an office, and told what he is going to
do. No education or comprehension required for that.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"King Zulu" wrote in message news:coRbd.251927$D%.224949@attbi_s51...
----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Kelly"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:24 AM
Subject: The War Heats Up: The ARRL Goes After Powell


AK, so make a recommendation in every comment that you make to the FCC
that the Chairman must hold an Amateur Radio License or GROL. Best of
Luck.

And an EE + LLD . . .

Actually, knowing something about the technology the FCC Chairman has
authority over does not require an amateur radio license, although that
would suggest some minimal amount of comprehension of the medium he/she is
administering.

Agreed.

The LLD (Doctor of Laws) is always problematic. An LLD
suggests many ethical character problems and a mind generally not
interested in real-world science or engineering.

Not always. I think your brush is too broad. There are LLDs and there
are LLDs: EE+LLD types are very different animals from the usual
run-of-the-mill attorneys and they're out there in some volume. I know
several of the general breed myself. Two are chem engs and another is
a mech eng who work in the complex field of patent law and are very
sharp technically. Another is an ME+LLD accident reconstruction expert
I worked with one case he had. One more is an EE+MBA+LLD technology
consultant to venture capital investors. I got into a tussle over an
injury insurance claim with an LLD+MD. There's a tough one . . !
Technically sharp lawyers are out there but are seldom found working
for neighborhood law firms.

An experienced FCC field
engineer who understands both the technology of radio and the politics of
Congress, as well as the politics of the many communications special
interest groups, would most likely be the best candidate for FCC Chairman.
I
believe that in days gone by, FCC engineers were promoted (actually
nominated and approved by Congress) to Commissioners. Don't know if any made
it to Chairman.

Amen. At least two, maybe three of the commisioners should come from
the pool of experienced communications lawyers. There are a bunch of
those specialists around and available and many of 'em are hams. The
ARRL has a whole network of 'em on tap per Chris Imlay. We even have
our very own RRAP resident comms lawyer, Phil Kane K2ASP, EE+LLD,
former head of the San Francisco FCC Field Office.

For sure, they wouldn't stand for today's BPL stupidity and
nonsense.

Troll for Phil, he'll explain it . . . !

ak

w3rv

"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
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For sure, they wouldn't stand for today's BPL stupidity and
nonsense.

Troll for Phil, he'll explain it . . . !

Please help me out (explain) on the meaning of the last comment, Brian.

ak

"King Zulu" wrote in message news:Enfcd.258908$D%.239336@attbi_s51...
"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
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For sure, they wouldn't stand for today's BPL stupidity and
nonsense.

Troll for Phil, he'll explain it . . . !

Please help me out (explain) on the meaning of the last comment, Brian.

Phil is an EE+LLD who has lurked in this group for years and who spent
28 years with the FCC. He knew the "old FCC" well and has bemoaned the
decline of the influence of the technically adroit within the FCC any
number of times via his posts in this NG. If you catch him in mood to
do so he'll "explain" his views on the matter for you. He's very droll
and is always a good read.

Some of my favorite "Philisms":

"The micturition contest will be in evaluating the terms "seriously
degrades, obstructs or repeatedly interrupts". What is "seriously"?
How much is "repeatedly"?

It will ultimately come down to whose lawyer can shout louder and
longer and whether the FCC wants to support amateur radio or BPL.

We are very lucky so far that some provider/power utility hasn't told
Riley to go fly a trombone when a warning letter is issued."

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"The first question that I always ask an opposition witness is
swaigned to elicit his/her expertise or standing in the matter. Then
we know up front whether or not the individual is (forgive the
technical lawyer jargon) talking through a paper a**hole."

- - - -

"The two things that are guaranteed to light my rocket are non-lawyers
playing lawyer and non-engineers playing engineer...."

w3rv