William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't. I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be. I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be. Thanks for your interest.

Dave K8MN

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

A republican? ;-) 4 more weeks....

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
"KØHB" wrote:

"Willy Weeper" wrote

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression.....

I put 50dB of attenuation in line, and this post still smoked my Troll
'O Meter.

73, de K0HB
--
"My name is Hans and I improved this message."

"William" is under all sorts of impressions. A few of them are correct.

VERY few of them.

73

Steve, K4YZ

(William) wrote in message . com...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

I guess the last six month's worth of posts where you and Sir
Scummy have made that same statement and INCLUDED Dave's name in the
process was not germane?

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

You need to confer with your mentor.

He has several decades worth of exprience in this field. Mine is
pretty much limited to complimenting my mother-in-law's cooking when I
really wish I was at McDonalds.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Dave K8MN

Small world, so are yours. Work France on 6 lately?

And if he has? If his transmit mode was within the allocations
permitted by Part 97 of the FCC's rules and regulations, his "issue"
would be...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice. Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

Thanks for your interest.

Dave K8MN

Quitewelcome.

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?
I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I note your relief. Why would anyone I work on 6 meters or any other
band be of concern to you?

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice.

Ah, but without my checking, isn't it quite possible that some scofflaw
Novice sneaked onto the 2m band for a quick QSO? Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I have no idea.

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

I've been telling you that for some time now.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?

Oh, gee. You sure don't mind dealing in cheap shots until one comes
your way.

Toughen up a little, whydoncha?

I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

Sorry, but it was not a "career goal" of mine.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Oh, my! I think you just called me a liar.

Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

Later you say I didn't.

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I note your relief. Why would anyone I work on 6 meters or any other
band be of concern to you?

You have a reputation for working out-of-banders.

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice.

Ah, but without my checking, isn't it quite possible that some scofflaw
Novice sneaked onto the 2m band for a quick QSO?

Scofflaw Novices!

Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

If one had an obvious Novice callsign, such as "WNx...," you might
have to wonder. Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice." That is another decent clue. Or, you
might be told that they are operating out of band.

The real problem occurs when you know they are out of band, but just
keep right on collecting those greenstamps.

Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I have no idea.

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

I've been telling you that for some time now.

Dave K8MN

Congrats. It's a good first step.

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?

Oh, gee. You sure don't mind dealing in cheap shots until one comes
your way.

Anything in particular come to mind when you came up with that
statement?

Toughen up a little, whydoncha?

I have. I have a low tolerance for your deliberate falsehoods. I
intend to call you on them when you write them here.

I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

Sorry, but it was not a "career goal" of mine.

It isn't a career goal of anyone. There is no way to make a living at
DXing.

2. Your statement is not only incorrect, it is deliberately so. Not
being required to know the amateur allocations of foreign countries is
nothing at all like not being permitted to know. Do you know what they
call a person who tells a deliberate untruth?

Please allow me to confer with Steve on this one.

I didn't think you knew the answer.

"Steve."

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Oh, my! I think you just called me a liar.

By George, I believe you're right.

Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

No need for a line--there's plenty of room. I don't intend to get
caught up in your jousts with Steve.


Or he just hangs out and waits for the spots to roll in, or works the
nets.

Your DXploits are legend.

Small world, so are yours.

That's right. Anyone can find out quite a bit about them by doing a
Google search. It's odd that when I did the same for yours, nuttin'
came up except one log entry from a Swede during the time you were in
KH2-land.
I'm pretty sure that there's nothing a guy like you could learn from me.

I wouldn't say that. I could probably learn something amateur radio
related from you, maybe even a lot.

I just don't like your accusations or your approach.

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

No, you did no such thing. You did, however reveal yourself to be quite
naive in such matters.

Later you say I didn't.

By "later" you mean that I didn't write that you didn't at the same time
you posted the comment?

Work France on 6 lately?

No, "William", I haven't.

Phew!

I note your relief. Why would anyone I work on 6 meters or any other
band be of concern to you?

You have a reputation for working out-of-banders.

Actually, that is another deliberately false statement. You are the
party who has made such statements.

I did work Iowa, Illinois, Michigan,
Wisconsin and Minnesota among other states on 2m SSB a few evenings
back. I didn't bother to check to see if everyone was operating where
he is permitted to be.

Shouldn't have been a problem, them being domestic and bound by the
same privs you are (with the exception of the Novice.

Ah, but without my checking, isn't it quite possible that some scofflaw
Novice sneaked onto the 2m band for a quick QSO?

Scofflaw Novices!

Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

If one had an obvious Novice callsign, such as "WNx...," you might
have to wonder.

I know a number of Extra class licensees with WN callsigns.

Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice."

I don't believe I've ever had a QSO where someone blurts out, "I'm a
Novice".

That is another decent clue.

No, it isn't.

Or, you
might be told that they are operating out of band.

Did you mean that someone I'm working is going to offer up a gem like,
"I'm out of band" or that some little weasel who spends his time
checking to see if other stations are operating where they're permitted
to be is going to call me to say, "He's out of band; he's out of band!"?

The real problem occurs when you know they are out of band, but just
keep right on collecting those greenstamps.

No such "real" problem has presented itself to me. What is your worry
about "greenstamps"? Is this one of your fetishes like the use of the
Farnsworth method in morse testing or repeater clubs having dues?
Are you concerned that hordes of domestic 2 meter SSB ops are filling
my mailbox with dollars?

Work any
"out-of-the-box WN-prefix Extras?").

I have no idea.

I just made sure that I was where I was
permitted to be.

That's the best policy.

I've been telling you that for some time now.

Congrats. It's a good first step.

Yes, and I'm pleased that you've taken it. There may be hope for you
yet.

Dave K8MN

(William) wrote in message . com...
Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?

Oh, gee. You sure don't mind dealing in cheap shots until one comes
your way.

Toughen up a little, whydoncha?

"Toughen up"...?!?!

You mean "Get used to our lying because we haven't even started
yet"...?!?!

I don't believe either of you is very well known in DXing.

Sorry, but it was not a "career goal" of mine.

Whew! Sure glad to hear that. Because based upon what we HAVE
seen of your "DXing" skills, you, the Little Woman and the kids would
be homeless and hungry.

I'm sorry. That is incorrect. "William", "Brian" or "liar" would have
been an acceptable response. Thanks for playing.

Oh, my! I think you just called me a liar.

Why not? You've lied repeatedly. You ARE a liar.

Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

Stop lying, I'll stop calling you a liar.

It really is THAT simple.

My accusations? The accusation where I corrected your use of the term
"World's Greatest DXer"? The accusation where I've told you that I'm
not responsible for where foreign hams operate, only for where I
operate? Maybe it was the accusation that because you continue to tell
deliberate untruths, that you're a liar.

I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

YOU have not educated ANYone, Brain.

YOU have yet to show where YOU know what the laws are. Indeed,
there's not one shred of evidence that you've ever done the things you
claim you have.

Later you say I didn't.

Because you haven't.

Isn't your position
that I should be concerned enough to check these things?

If one had an obvious Novice callsign, such as "WNx...," you might
have to wonder. Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice." That is another decent clue. Or, you
might be told that they are operating out of band.

The real problem occurs when you know they are out of band, but just
keep right on collecting those greenstamps.

The FCC has not issued "Novice" callsigns since 1976. There are
quite a few folks with Extra Class and Advenced Class licenses with WN
prefixes.

There are also several 1x2's with General and Advanced Class
licenses on the books as of this date.

Stop while you are ahead, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
William wrote:

On another "radio-related" newsgroup, an amateur asks:

"Subject: 80 meter European and Russian SSB frequencies?

Where is a list of the freq allocations for DX on 80m ssb?"

From the worlds greatest dxer, I was under the impression that
we
weren't permitted to know the amateur allocations of other
countries.
We must blindly tune up and down the bands hoping that we snag
a
contact with a needed country. Having knowledge of where to
tune is
forbidden.

1. I'll point out for a fourth, fifth or sixth time, I've never
claimed
to be the world's greatest DXer--but I thank you for the
compliment.

You assume I was talking about you?

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. You've written the same thing a
number
of times and we have certainly discussed the amateur allocations of
other countries. If you have a correction to make, please do so.

Suit yourself. You're not the world's greatest DXer, merely well
known.

I believe I've pointed that out each time you or Len has used the
"World's Greatest DXer" tag as a reference to me. Yet both of you
continue to make the same mistake over and over. Is it because neither
of you is capable of learning or because it is an attempt to take a
cheap shot at me?

Oh, gee. You sure don't mind dealing in cheap shots until one comes
your way.

Anything in particular come to mind when you came up with that
statement?

Toughen up a little, whydoncha?

I have. I have a low tolerance for your deliberate falsehoods.

Tsk. You have "low tolerance" (practically none) for any
independent thought or opinion other than your own. :-)


It isn't a career goal of anyone. There is no way to make a living at
DXing.

Tsk. Job printers making QSL cards might disagree with you. :-)

More tsk: Many ads for amateur HF transceivers and HF antennas
come right out and say buying their things is good for DX. Those
ads keep appearing so the makers are making money at it... :-)


Get in line, I don't think Steve's done yet. And bring your lunch.

No need for a line--there's plenty of room. I don't intend to get
caught up in your jousts with Steve.

Steve who?

There's an emotional wreck rambling around in here with the
rank of credentialed gunnery nurse. :-)


I educated you with respect to operating amateur radio in a location
without a government.

No, you did no such thing. You did, however reveal yourself to be quite
naive in such matters.

Brian was wrong only in that it is Impossible to tell an olde-tyme
hamme knowitall anything... :-)


You have a reputation for working out-of-banders.

Actually, that is another deliberately false statement. You are the
party who has made such statements.

Tsk. Denial of what all readers could see in here.


Often people volunteer what their amateur "status"
is, such as "I'm a Novice."

I don't believe I've ever had a QSO where someone blurts out, "I'm a
Novice".

Do you ever deign to work lowly non-extras, your lordship?


That is another decent clue.

No, it isn't.

You are without a clue? :-)

Tsk.