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November 6th 04, 09:46 AM
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#173
November 6th 04, 11:11 AM
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Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: (William) Date: 11/5/2004 11:16 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Dat tree. Along with some mental health counselling, I could find you a decent speech pathologist. Don't disgrace the Marine Corps on their birthday. How could I? Steve, K4YZ |
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#174
November 6th 04, 06:00 PM
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(Len Over 21) writes: In article , PAMNO (N2EY) writes: We've already seen how you react to others who have served our country in both military and nonmilitary government service. Right...for making lots of brags and claims and implied "combat experience" as in "seven hostile actions." :-) Mostly just for daring to disagree with you. Or those who were "in Vietnam" yet can't be specific about what they did or where. I don't think that would make any difference to how you behaved towards them. Or those who "served the country" by being a minor civilian sort for a defense contractor on a USN aircraft carrier. [I tend to dismiss the claims of "taking photographs for naval intelligence" as having any importance] Yet all these people should show respect for *your* service even though you show absolutely none for *theirs*. "Dave" wants his State experiences enobled as wonderful radio acts for the nation or something. State Department just doesn't have the size or scope to compete with the U.S. military commo facilities. The DSN has taken over the day-to-day task for that and the U.S. Army Signal Corps has long served State for the vital sensitive communications means (which "Dave" will immediately argue since he is most sensitive to any sort of negativism to "Dave"). So you think it's OK to treat K8MN the way you did, and continue to do. Ooooo...I've "insulted" a member of the USMC? Horrors! Yes, I was unaware that the USMC is hero of the U.S. military and the savior of all wars and is therefore ALLOWED (perhaps encouraged) to insult and demean all other U.S. military service branch veterans. See cute little Yiddish pejoratives such as "Putz" (which means 'penis head'). It would be interesting to see when that pejorative was first used, and what you did to encourage it. Tsk. I am "guilty" of an inter-service faux pas according to your veteranism (or veterinarianism or vegetarianism) as a military veteran yourself. I was unaware that standing retreat (a military ceremony at sundown) honoring 23 members of my military battalion was somehow "dishonoring them" (according to the medically-discharged USMC veteran). Mea culpa. It's more like your constant badgering and insulting of anyone who disagrees with you. That USMC "veteran" (who never claimed any USMC commo experience) thinks my MOS was as a "radio mechanic" despite my giving the official U.S. Army Military Occupation Specialty brief description. So - "can't you take a little tweak"? All that because the U.S. Army never used any morse code in long-distance 24/7 operation HF communications 51 years ago. You know this for a fact? How? Tsk. Well, you've had all that "experience" at Washington Army Radio because you read a rather dated (almost pre-WW2) article by a very olde-tymer hamme and thus you "were there" and "knew all about" ACAN (Army Command and Administrative Network) in which I took part. No sweaty dah. Was the article factual or not? It seems to me that you're very opposed to Morse Code getting *any* credit for *anything* useful. You've neglected to "correct" me on many other things that involved communications that I've experienced since 1956... You make too many mistakes for me to keep up with, Len ;-) ;-) except some brief mentions on SURPLUS equipment of WW2 era radio. You don't know SINCGARS or the IHFR families which are the mainstay of small-unit operations in today's military...IHFR involves HF spectrum communications and the present-day PRC-104 is part of that IHFR effort since 1986. So what? Why is SINCGARS of any relevance to amateur radio? Can hams get the sets in surplus? Can hams use them legally? How much does a new one cost? Show us your heroism and wonderful deeds that makes YOU so superior you can denigrate those of us who DID serve in the military. Where have I "denigrated" anyone's military or other government service? Myself and Brian Burke by implication if not directly. You take *any* comment that is not butt-kissing suck-up praise as an insult. Show us some examples of these so-called "denigrations". My posts are all in google. Further, you've supported or condoned other PCTAs for personally insulting the both of us. All that has been in public view here. "Supported or condoned"? What would you suggest that I do? Seems to me that you expect me to somehow stop others from saying anything you perceive as an insult, but at the same time allow you to insult them freely. Here's a clue, Len: That's not how it works. Each of us is responsible for our own postings. You've made considerable "fun" out of my having a professional career in radio-electronics and try to denigrate professionals in many areas besides radio. Where? Show us, Len. Yet you CLAIM to be a "pro" in your day job and have never been specific in what you are supposed to be doing "in electronics." Where did I claim any of that? Show us, Len. I've brought out the FACT in the U.S. military communications (on HF) as of a half century ago NOT INVOLVING morse code for fixed- point to fixed-point "traffic." How do any of us know it's a FACT except because you say-so? How do we know that the entire US military (not just the Army) did the same thing? Most of all: *WHY* is that supposed FACT of any importance to amateur radio *today*? C'mon - explain it to us. Show us why it has any importance at all. You kept diverting to USN shipboard operations trying somehow to "prove" that morse was the Big Thing in the military Not true, Len. I was simply showing that Morse Code use in the US military continued for decades beyond 1952. You may denigrate the USN and USCG as not being "big-time", but they are. ...which you didn't prove since TTY was the major traffic carrier (by far) for all military branches a half century ago. How do we *know* that except for your say-so, Len? Most of all: *WHY* is that supposed FACT of any importance to amateur radio *today*? |
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#175
November 7th 04, 01:56 AM
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(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: (William) Date: 11/5/2004 11:16 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Dat tree. Along with some mental health counselling, I could find you a decent speech pathologist. Don't disgrace the Marine Corps on their birthday. How could I? Steve, K4YZ By being yourselves. |
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#176
November 7th 04, 02:04 AM
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... Or the guy who claims to have operated from T5 but cannot recall what bands, modes, radios, or antennas were used? He recalls, but the green envy and the accusations ****ed him off. But...but...but...Jimmie's "been there, done all that" and "knows exactly what it is like!" Hi hi. In the grand scheme of things, N2EY has been very few places and has done very few things of importance. Tsk. He has an AOL Homepage! :-) Awesome! Yawn. He owes N2EY no explanation, and N2EY will receive none. Right on! .. He hopes N2EY will understand. Hah! Fat chance! No matter. Really. True. Except "N2EY" is most disturbed about that. "N2EY" has SET the rules and what he say goes... Fine. There are other disturbed Extra's on RRAP. He should feel at home. Jimmie thinks he is the "perfect ham" and can do NO wrong, always "corrects" others who "make all those mistakes." That's been the recurring underlayer in his postings here. N2EY has been wallowing in the slop and slurry of late. But he thinks he still smells sweetly. Of course he does. He nose all. :-) Skunk cabbage by any other name... PCTAs never apologize...except in a blue moon (when their hair mysteriously grows out...) Blue Moon. A delicious micro-brew in the belgian-wheat tradition. Haven't tried it. Not into any beers and don't bother to drink much. I follow the mathematician's rule: "Never drink and derive." :-) Makes cents. |
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#177
November 7th 04, 03:24 PM
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Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS....
From: (William) Date: 11/6/2004 6:56 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ... Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: (William) Date: 11/5/2004 11:16 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Dat tree. Along with some mental health counselling, I could find you a decent speech pathologist. Don't disgrace the Marine Corps on their birthday. How could I? Steve, K4YZ By being yourselves. You mean by being honest and unwilling to tolerate chronic liars like you and your scumbag mentor...??? OK! Steve, K4YZ |
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#178
November 7th 04, 10:03 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ... Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: (William) Date: 11/5/2004 11:16 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: Dat tree. Along with some mental health counselling, I could find you a decent speech pathologist. Don't disgrace the Marine Corps on their birthday. How could I? Steve, K4YZ By being yourselves. He can't be. Himself. The USMC had its "birthday" by itself. Without "Steve." The USMC rejected "Steve." Medical discharge. Out. "Steve" is no longer involved in the USMC! Sunnuvagun! LHA / WMD |
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#179
November 7th 04, 10:03 PM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , (William) writes: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: Designed And Built By PROFESSIONALS.... From: (William) Date: 10/31/2004 7:53 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Len Over 21 wrote: There's no reasoning with emotional belief systems...such as the PCTA's insistence that all who come after must jump through the same hoops they had to when younger. You have a point. There is no reasoning with emotional belief systems. Take a guy who believes that those tested in amateur radio are "jumping through hoops" or that the testing elements given today are the same as those in years past. How would you deal with such a guy? True enough. The Volunteer Examiners are giving Farnsworth exams rather than the FCC/Part 97 specified Morse Code exams. There is no such thing as a "Farnsworth exam". Volunteer examiners will tell you otherwise. "Steve" says he's a VE and he's OK. :-) And supposedly being a VE, you should know that. Whatever "Steve" does is OK. Under "Steve Rulez." The FCC is required to ensure that all exams and exam materials used in the conduct of exams on their behalf are appropriate. The FCC is required to ensure that what they enforce on Howard Stern is also enforced on Oprah. According to "Steve," the FCC pays a lot of attention to what a bunch of radio hobbyists do in the service of their country... In reality there is a difference story...but the fantasylanders don't want to tarnish the patina of their embellishments. I said before the restructuring and I'll say it again, "What I fear most about restructuring is a lack of enforcement, and what I fear most about maintaining the status quo is a lack of enforcement." Amateur Radio is now in it's 30th year of a lack of enforcement. Actually, longer. CB (on HF) became legal 46 years ago...NO code test then to get on HF, not even a single test to take. After a few years the "licensure" (token callsign on completion of application) was removed. To the best of my knowledge, Well there you go. You're basing your opinion upon your own limited knowledge. True enough. But, "Steve" has LICENSURE and is "fully authorized" to operate (radiating RF) within the boundaries of amateur radio regulations. That's enough to make him imagine anything that he wants is real, legal, and the Absolute Truth. [I still say it is all due to some post-traumatic stress problem, perhaps from those "seven hostile actions"] not a single exam in service today has been identified by the FCC as being inappropriate or not in confomance with FCC requirements, nor has the FCC ever directed the removal from service of any Morse Code exam as unacceptable. Nor would they. It is Morse Code that is specified in Part 97. You're going to have to try a little harder to unseat my informed opinion. The FCC still hasn't fully qualified its own definition of International Morse Code in Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R. Neither do they fully and unambiguously define telegraphy "word rate." However, "Steve" imagines he is still Boss NCO of the unit and gives Orders as if everyone else were the recruits in the "corps." As if... Steve, K4YZ Yeh, sure. Whatever. Opus' Mayor Bill (the Cat) has the last word..."Pbthththth..." :-) Steve has an incredibly uninformed knowledge bank wrt Volunteer Examining. Luckily for the ARS, he is busy being a volunteer for numerous other organizations. His "bank" has no interest. Come to think of it, I'm not much "interested" in that "knowledge." :-) Good thing because you won't find much. His bank not even FDIC insured. Bankrupt. Alan Greenspan can't regulate him. :-) Careful, "Steve" is going to "show you his 'citations' at Dayton!" [I think his singular citation is swingting...as the saying goes] Steve Puffy Flightsuit will not be able to verify the pedigree of his medal collection at Dayton or any other American city. Who knows...maybe he has a championship caliber collection? That Spanish American War service medal looks nice. Must have had lots of "hostile action" on San Juan Hill. I'm still curious as to "Steve's" citations for those 'seven hostile actions' he claimed he had. Mere claims. Then there is reality, which has passed him by. What? Just "claims?" Oh, my! Tsk. The desert around Barstow, CA, is kinda "hostile." Or the acknowledgement that DoD really does run MARS and does so OUTSIDE the ham bands. Oh, my. Now there is a diffy cult one to validate. Hi! Not to worry. Some ARRL propagandist (maybe even Pres. Sumner hisself) will exonerate him somehow. :-) Or "Steve's" power (as a licensured health professional) to pick up a phone and have just anyone "picked up" by the authorities. Dat boy be well connected. He one powerful mamma jamma. Hoodo dat voodooo? "Voodoo?" I know he tries to "pin" lots of things on others. I'm still waiting for the "authorities" to come pick me up after that awesome, powerfull single phone-call by a "health professional." So far its only been the USPS, FedEx, and United Parcel Service. :-) That's just up in the top 3 of dozens of his claims. Ho hum. Claims. Mere claims. No validation. "Validation?" He no need no steenking validation! He say. That be all dat's necessary. All that makes Steve Robeson a .... Whoa! Don't say it! That will start another special personal-insult thread by his high holiness! Actually, it did...sad to say. |
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#180
November 8th 04, 12:16 AM
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PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article , (Len Over 21) writes: In article , PAMNO (N2EY) writes: We've already seen how you react to others who have served our country in both military and nonmilitary government service. Right...for making lots of brags and claims and implied "combat experience" as in "seven hostile actions." :-) Mostly just for daring to disagree with you. Oh Bull-****, N2EY! I DARE to agree with Len on a topic, any topic. Disagreeing with him is PCTA SOP; requires no effort whatsoever. Be a Maverick like John McCain and take an itsy bitsy chance for -once- in your life. Rest of your bile snipped. |
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