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October 21st 04, 02:31 AM
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Glad it worked for you, Jim. Now munge that email addy before the spam
overflows your box! :P "JAMES HAMPTON" wrote: Hello, Steve Whilst you folks argue on, I'm going to personally thank Mopar (a CBer, no less) for getting me info on accessing the newsgroups in a decent fashion after giving up my DSL account. No one, CB, novice, technician, general, advanced, nor extra, has all of the answers. If we learn to live together, we might *all* learn something. Think about it, guys.  73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message ... (William) wrote in message . com... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... Riley is not a Extra class. Dan/W4NTI Quote from several Extra's on RRAP, "So what's his problem?" Which of "several Extra's", Brain? There's only a few of us, so it can't be TOO hard to pony up a quote. Re-quotes from posts, please? FACTS...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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#12
October 21st 04, 02:54 AM
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In article , "JAMES HAMPTON"
writes: No one, CB, novice, technician, general, advanced, nor extra, has all of the answers. If we learn to live together, we might *all* learn something. I agree 100%, Jim. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#14
October 21st 04, 08:21 AM
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Hello, Hans
This group could learn something, but I doubt most are able. To the group: I was on Guam when Hans provided communications that the U.S. Navy couldn't. Yep, ol' stupid Hans loaded up a fence and contacted KG6AAY on Guam and communications were passed directly to ComNavMar. So go ahead and say what you may; I know better and so does Hans. Grow up and try and do something constructive. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim - AA2QA "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... "JAMES HAMPTON" wrote No one, CB, novice, technician, general, advanced, nor extra, has all of the answers. If we learn to live together, we might *all* learn something. Talked to a young fella on the repeater the other day who introduced himself by saying "my first personal is Jim and you're my first contact, QSL?". He seemed like a nice sort, delighted that he had just received his shiny new call sign, and was anxious to make some new friends. Kinda sounded like I felt when I put my new call sign on the air the first time way back when, except probably brighter, cuz Jim is one of those young computer jocks. Me, I still got problems with the LL scale on my Pickett slide rule. Yep, I think Jim sounded brighter than me, quick to catch on to things. But I don't think Jim will be back on the repeater. Before I had a chance to really get to know much about Jim, or even wrangle an invite to lunch, another station, with an impressive "senior" call sign joined the contact, flashed his shiny Radio Cop badge, and proceeded to issue Jim a "verbal speeding ticket" for improper lingo on the radio. "Radio Cop" said the term "personal" (and for that matter "handle") were unwelcome in ham radio, and that Q-signals were not to be used on VHF voice. Just generally made my newfound friend feel like an unwashed interloper. (Gosh, I've been saying "handle" since I was a conditional class. Slow to catch on, you know.) Now I should point out that "Radio Cop" took pains to appear very well meaning. Didn't use any bad words that I noticed, was quite polite, even seemed like he was trying to be "helpful." In other words, he thought he was doing Jim a favor by pointing out his transgression from our sacred Amateur Radio way of doing things. I think Jim felt just the same way I did back in a new school in third grade when the well meaning teacher pointed out that "we don't keep our pencil behind our ear in this room." Sure enough, I looked around and none of my new classmates had pencils behind their ears. Sure was embarrassing, and at that moment I really wished I was back with my good old buddies in second grade. Now, if I'd been allowed to hang out a couple of days, I'm sure I would have learned how to properly stow my pencil. And if Jim would have hung around a couple of days on our repeater I just bet he would have noticed that his lingo, perhaps learned in another radio service, was a bit out of place, and pretty soon Jim would sound "just like the rest of us." Like I said, he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things. "Radio Cop", you have kept our hobby uncorrupted. I heard Jim down around 27 Mhz this morning, and saw his ad on eBay trying to sell his barely used 2-meter HT. I'm gonna miss my new friend Jim, because I think I could have learned something from him. Maybe you could have also. Like I said, he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things. But he left us. Wonder what he "caught on" to? 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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#15
October 21st 04, 08:49 AM
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Subject: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: "JAMES HAMPTON" Date: 10/21/2004 1:21 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: Hello, Hans This group could learn something, but I doubt most are able. To the group: I was on Guam when Hans provided communications that the U.S. Navy couldn't. Yep, ol' stupid Hans loaded up a fence and contacted KG6AAY on Guam and communications were passed directly to ComNavMar. So go ahead and say what you may; I know better and so does Hans. Grow up and try and do something constructive. There's a lot of "constructive" things that can be done in this world, Jim. We all do what we can and in our own ways. No one doubts that Hans has done many of the things he has said. Indeed, there is much documented to prove his assertions. However that's not MY current issue with him. It seems Hans has a problem with anyone threatening his "authority" or daring to take his bluffs. I wrote a very benign letter to Rich, W2VU at CQ magazine to try and locate the article that I remembered reading. Hans felt it necessary to give Rich a "heads up" letter that could do nothing but induce prejudice on Rich's part in finding the item to which I refered. P L E A S E show me the "constructiveness" or "fairness" of Hans' actions. Inquiring minds, etc etc etc.... 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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#16
October 21st 04, 11:43 AM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: I wrote a very benign letter to Rich, W2VU at CQ magazine to try and locate the article that I remembered reading. Here's why it looks familiar: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ews.com&output =gplain http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...1.deja.com&out put=gplain http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...1.deja.com&out put=gplain I don't read CQ with any regularity so I don't know if it's in there or not. 73 de Jim, N2EY "My name is Jim and despite being lectured to by numerous 'radio cops' and 'newsgroup cops', I'm still a radio amateur and still online" |
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#17
October 21st 04, 02:01 PM
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(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: These EXTRA'S, Steve::: WHICH Extras, Brain? From: (William) Date: 10/20/2004 6:55 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message om... (William) wrote in message . com... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... Riley is not a Extra class. Dan/W4NTI Quote from several Extra's on RRAP, "So what's his problem?" Which of "several Extra's", Brain? There's only a few of us, so it can't be TOO hard to pony up a quote. Re-quotes from posts, please? FACTS...?!?! Steve, K4YZ --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- From: N2EY ) Subject: Excellent ARRL proposal View this article only Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy Date: 2004-01-25 12:31:04 PST In article , (Brian Kelly) writes: (N2EY) wrote in message ... In article , (Brian Kelly) writes: go thru to get on the air. There were neighborhood radio clubs which didn't allow full voting memberships to Novices and Techs . . . And in the mid-60s there were still some who did similar things. Indeed, there were Advanceds who looked down on Generals, Generals who looked down on Conditionals, Conditionals who looked down on Techs, and Techs who looked down on Novices. Etc. And it wasn't just kids vs. adults, either. Yessir, It's 2004 and it's **still** out there. Guy was up late last year for the vote on approving his membership application into The Group (the 43rd & Kingsessing "Group" we're both familair with yes?) You mean the one where the attendance sheet looks like the DXCC Honor Roll? and somebody asked "what license class does he have?" His sponser: "Uhhh . . Advanced." Then he ducked. Immediate 180dBA noise level from the Back Benchers, "what the hell is this guy's problem?" Well, what IS his problem? That group is heavily focused on DX and contesting - particularly DX contesting. They're "a bit competitive".... Anything less than an Extra is a big competitive disadvantage in DX contesting. Like not being able to work split. So why doesn't the guy get one? Even if he only works 'phone, all he need do is pass element 4. And he's had almost 4 years. No, wait, that's not a good reason. Those writtens are really tough. More than 4 years ago, (Jan 19, 2000, to be exact) a certain verbose nonham here said he was going for Extra "right out of the box". But no ham license of any class yet. And this nonham says he's a "radio PROFESSIONAL".... Maybe he should apply to The Group. I'd like to attend that meeting.... Then as now, they were few - but noisy. Maybe it was different where you were, Dan. It's all just cycles Dan and the 1968 maneuver was not the first cycle by any means and welcome to the current cycle. There will be others. Circle Game. Dit-dit! Still nothing from one of "us" It STILL does not answer your suggestion about "several Extras" in RRAP suggesting that anything less than an Extra Class is "a problem". The story relates the telling of some club some time ago wherein some other group of people may have acted stupidly. You have yet to quote Brian (W3RV), Hans, Jim, the other Jim, or myself, among others, as having said anything close to "what's his problem" over not being an Extra class licensee. Where's the quotes, Brain? Steve, K4YZ You are blind. |
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#18
October 21st 04, 02:12 PM
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"KØHB" wrote in message link.net...
"JAMES HAMPTON" wrote No one, CB, novice, technician, general, advanced, nor extra, has all of the answers. If we learn to live together, we might *all* learn something. At least one person on here ought to be living apart from the rest of society. Talked to a young fella on the repeater the other day who introduced himself by saying "my first personal is Jim and you're my first contact, QSL?". Wow! A newbie. You don't see many of those these days. He seemed like a nice sort, delighted that he had just received his shiny new call sign, and was anxious to make some new friends. Kinda sounded like I felt when I put my new call sign on the air the first time way back when, except probably brighter, cuz Jim is one of those young computer jocks. Me, I still got problems with the LL scale on my Pickett slide rule. Yep, I think Jim sounded brighter than me, quick to catch on to things. But I don't think Jim will be back on the repeater. Before I had a chance to really get to know much about Jim, or even wrangle an invite to lunch, another station, with an impressive "senior" call sign joined the contact, flashed his shiny Radio Cop badge, and proceeded to issue Jim a "verbal speeding ticket" for improper lingo on the radio. "Radio Cop" said the term "personal" (and for that matter "handle") were unwelcome in ham radio, and that Q-signals were not to be used on VHF voice. Just generally made my newfound friend feel like an unwashed interloper. (Gosh, I've been saying "handle" since I was a conditional class. Slow to catch on, you know.) Now I should point out that "Radio Cop" took pains to appear very well meaning. Didn't use any bad words that I noticed, was quite polite, even seemed like he was trying to be "helpful." There's at least one of those in here, too. In other words, he thought he was doing Jim a favor by pointing out his transgression from our sacred Amateur Radio way of doing things. I think Jim felt just the same way I did back in a new school in third grade when the well meaning teacher pointed out that "we don't keep our pencil behind our ear in this room." Sure enough, I looked around and none of my new classmates had pencils behind their ears. Sure was embarrassing, and at that moment I really wished I was back with my good old buddies in second grade. Now, if I'd been allowed to hang out a couple of days, I'm sure I would have learned how to properly stow my pencil. And if Jim would have hung around a couple of days on our repeater I just bet he would have noticed that his lingo, perhaps learned in another radio service, was a bit out of place, and pretty soon Jim would sound "just like the rest of us." Like I said, he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things. "Radio Cop", you have kept our hobby uncorrupted. I heard Jim down around 27 Mhz this morning, and saw his ad on eBay trying to sell his barely used 2-meter HT. I'm gonna miss my new friend Jim, because I think I could have learned something from him. Maybe you could have also. Like I said, he seemed pretty bright to me, quick to catch on to things. But he left us. Wonder what he "caught on" to? 73, de Hans, K0HB Indeed. I had the opportunity to witness a new ham make a mistake on a wide area St. Louis repeater. Radio Cop Curt/Advanced blasted him without even trying to appear nice about it. Another ham intervened and told Curt that his name was the first half of the word "Curteous." Didn't phase him - he just kept going. |
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October 21st 04, 02:18 PM
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#20
October 21st 04, 03:53 PM
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Subject: These EXTRA'S, Steve::: WHICH Extras, Brain?
From: (William) Date: 10/21/2004 7:01 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: These EXTRA'S, Steve::: WHICH Extras, Brain? Yessir, It's 2004 and it's **still** out there. Guy was up late last year for the vote on approving his membership application into The Group (the 43rd & Kingsessing "Group" we're both familair with yes?) You mean the one where the attendance sheet looks like the DXCC Honor Roll? and somebody asked "what license class does he have?" His sponser: "Uhhh . . Advanced." Then he ducked. Immediate 180dBA noise level from the Back Benchers, "what the hell is this guy's problem?" Well, what IS his problem? That group is heavily focused on DX and contesting - particularly DX contesting. They're "a bit competitive".... Anything less than an Extra is a big competitive disadvantage in DX contesting. Like not being able to work split. So why doesn't the guy get one? Even if he only works 'phone, all he need do is pass element 4. And he's had almost 4 years. No, wait, that's not a good reason. Those writtens are really tough. More than 4 years ago, (Jan 19, 2000, to be exact) a certain verbose nonham here said he was going for Extra "right out of the box". But no ham license of any class yet. And this nonham says he's a "radio PROFESSIONAL".... Maybe he should apply to The Group. I'd like to attend that meeting.... Then as now, they were few - but noisy. Maybe it was different where you were, Dan. It's all just cycles Dan and the 1968 maneuver was not the first cycle by any means and welcome to the current cycle. There will be others. Circle Game. Dit-dit! Still nothing from one of "us" It STILL does not answer your suggestion about "several Extras" in RRAP suggesting that anything less than an Extra Class is "a problem". The story relates the telling of some club some time ago wherein some other group of people may have acted stupidly. You have yet to quote Brian (W3RV), Hans, Jim, the other Jim, or myself, among others, as having said anything close to "what's his problem" over not being an Extra class licensee. Where's the quotes, Brain? You are blind. If you mean the suggestion about slamming Lennie over HIS asertion that he'd get an "Extra lite out of the box", those were HIS words, you idiot. And in ANY case, you STILL don't make a case for your "several Extras on RRAP" assertion. So..............You're STILL shy of some facts here, Brain. Try again. Steve, K4YZ |
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