KØHB wrote:
What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

73, de Hans, K0HB

10:30 Snacks
12:00 Lunch Break


Morning snacks were too close to lunch.

Jeff KH6O


--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

William wrote:

Or KH6. I recall a ham on Hawaii who loaned out his PO Box to Mike
Deignan. Same ham had a Guam call, never lived on Guam. Said he had
a job offer there that never panned out, and got the call in "prep"
for moving there.


Geez, I wonder who that was?

Jeff KH6O (ex KH2PZ)

P.S. KH0-KH9 are all in the same call area: 13.


--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

"KØHB" wrote:

What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

73, de Hans, K0HB

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Hamvention 2004

Program of Activities
Nov 27, 2004
Ecotech Center, Cebu City, Philippines

7:00 Registration of Delegates
8:00 Opening Ceremonies
Invocation -
National Anthem - Joan Jayme
Welcome Address - Emilio B. Borja, DU7EBB
Declaration of Hamvention Open - Steve Tan,DW7MCC
8:30 FCC VEC Exam
9:00 Packet Radio Seminar - Bilfredo Canas, DU9BC
9:45 Echolink Seminar - Maximino Santos, 4F1BYN
10:30 Snacks
11:00 Congress of Presidents
Open Forum
12:00 Lunch Break
13:00 WRC / Satellite - Eddie Valdez, DU1EV
13:45 ARES - Eli E. Yongco, DU1YEE
14:30 PARA Awards Program - Serafin A. Nepomuceno,
DU1SAN
15:00 Snacks
15:30 General Assembly / Election
2005 Hamvention Host Bidding
17:30 PARA Board Meeting
19:00 Dinner
19:00 Fellowship Night
Roll Call of Clubs - Steve Tan, DW7MCC
Message from PARA Pres. - Jose Mari Gonzales,
DU1JMG
Introduction of Guest Speaker - Jet Manuel,4F7MHZ
Inspirational Talk - Danilo T. Sy,
Regional Director - NTC 7
Intermission
Awards and Recognition
Intermission
Raffle Draw
21:45 Free Time


FCC VEC exam?

No biggie. K3FK, WE3A and I used to administer them in Helsinki. A
number of the Finns passed all exam up through the Extra in one sitting.

WA8JOC handled QSLing for all of my DX operations. His mailman, Freddie
was used to the piles of QSL cards following a CQ WW DX 'test operation
but when the FCC documents began arriving with all sorts of lengthy
Finnish names, he asked Shep if he had rented the garage to a bunch of
guys from Finland. They, after all, had to provide a U.S. address
through which they could be contacted by the FCC.

Dave K8MN

On 24 Nov 2004 01:27:16 GMT, Alun wrote:

Do not forget that holding an amateur license does not convey any
civil rights - _Howard v City of Burlingame_

I'm not sure what implications that has. I think I'd better try and find
that case and read it.

_Howard v City of Burlingame_, 937 F2nd 1376, (9th Cir., 1991)

"Uncle Vern" Howard got into a dispute with the city about getting
a permit for his tower as against neighbor complaints. (In the
meanwhile he put up a 65 foot tower where the original dispute was
over a 51 foot tower).

The District Court held that under the "reasonable accommodation"
factor in PRB-1 the permit had to be granted but it denied Vern's
claim for damages under 42 U.S.C. s. 1963 which awardss damages
where a local government (but not Federal) violates an individual's
civil rights "under color of law" and for attorney fees under 42 U.S.C.
s. 1988.

The parties cross-appealed to the 9th Circuit , the city appealing
the PRB-1 preemption and Vern appealing to reinstate his claim
for a declaration of protected rights and therefore eligibility for
1963 damages and 1988 fee award.

The 9th Circuit upheld the lower court but also ruled that holding
an amateur license did not confer any protected right (such as First
Amendment rights) to the licensee, and specifically the right to put
up any antenna of choice - the jurisdiction must still consider those
factors specified in PRB-1 to reach a "reasonable accommodation":

"In fact, the most significant section of the [Communications
Act] forecloses rather than supports Howard's claim: "no such
license shall be construed to create any right, beyond the terms,
conditions, and periods of the license." 47 U.S.C. Sec. 301. Such
language is evidence that no enforceable right exists under Sec.
1983, and that Congress intended to foreclose claims such as
Howard's. See Golden State, 110 S. Ct. at 449; Wilder, 110 S. Ct.
at 2523. Cf. Wright, 479 U.S. at 430. The Act thus grants no Sec.
1983 right to licensees to erect antennas."

Vern was getting up in years and didn't want to carry this to the
SCOTUS - it was a shot in the dark, as he said - so there it stands.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

wrote in message ...
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 06:13:03 GMT, Robert Casey

And there should not be U.S. license exams
at a hamfest in the Philippines so that anybody who wants a U.S.
license can buy one.

Do you have proof that this occured?

If you do, why have you not provided this information to the
appropriate authorities?

Why can't I take a test for a Japanese ham license in Florida ?

A lack of ability to speak/read Kanjii? Or perhaps Japanese law
doesn't allow it.

It still comes down to "it's allowed by OUR law"...at least at
present...

73

Steve, K4YZ

Lloyd wrote:
You are Full of **** Kane.

Care to mention where he is full of it?
Otherwise you're just trolling.

(Jeffrey Herman) wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Or KH6. I recall a ham on Hawaii who loaned out his PO Box to Mike
Deignan. Same ham had a Guam call, never lived on Guam. Said he had
a job offer there that never panned out, and got the call in "prep"
for moving there.


Geez, I wonder who that was?

Jeff KH6O (ex KH2PZ)

P.S. KH0-KH9 are all in the same call area: 13.

So go get your "old" call back via the vanity call sign system, or
just scoop up another King Henry Two call sign.

Dave Heil wrote in message ...


FCC VEC exam?

No biggie. K3FK, WE3A and I used to administer them in Helsinki. A
number of the Finns passed all exam up through the Extra in one sitting.

Wonder what they used for an address?

WA8JOC handled QSLing for all of my DX operations. His mailman, Freddie
was used to the piles of QSL cards following a CQ WW DX 'test operation
but when the FCC documents began arriving with all sorts of lengthy
Finnish names, he asked Shep if he had rented the garage to a bunch of
guys from Finland. They, after all, had to provide a U.S. address
through which they could be contacted by the FCC.

Dave K8MN

Of course. And you provided it. Typical Extra attitude. Just help
yourself to whatever you want, pass some around to your friends.

Callsign: K3FK Class: Extra Codes: HAI USA
Name: RICHARD A IRVING
Addr1: PSC 78, Box 33
Addr2: APO, AP 96326-1000
Country: USA
Effective: 14 Nov 2002 Expires: 04 Nov 2007
FRN: 0007938624 What's this?
FCC: ULS Listing
Lookups: 211

Callsign: WE3A Class: Extra Codes: HAI USA
Name: VILHO K HIILESMAA
Addr1: 2721 Halifax Court, c/o Steinman
Addr2: McKinney, TX 75070
Country: USA
Effective: 06 Sep 2000 Expires: 06 Sep 2010
FRN: 0006405997 What's this?
FCC: ULS Listing
Lookups: 118

Callsign: WA8JOC Class: Extra Codes: HAI USA
Name: Kenneth S Scheper
Addr1: 5875 Cedaridge Dr
Addr2: Cincinnati, OH 45247
Country: USA
Effective: 03 Mar 2004 Expires: 31 May 2014
FRN: 0003051612 What's this?
FCC: ULS Listing
Lookups: 1075

William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...


FCC VEC exam?

No biggie. K3FK, WE3A and I used to administer them in Helsinki. A
number of the Finns passed all exam up through the Extra in one sitting.

Wonder what they used for an address?

I already provided the callsign of the Cincinnati amateur whose address
they used.

WA8JOC handled QSLing for all of my DX operations. His mailman, Freddie
was used to the piles of QSL cards following a CQ WW DX 'test operation
but when the FCC documents began arriving with all sorts of lengthy
Finnish names, he asked Shep if he had rented the garage to a bunch of
guys from Finland. They, after all, had to provide a U.S. address
through which they could be contacted by the FCC.

Dave K8MN

Of course. And you provided it.

No, I didn't. WA8JOC provided it.

Typical Extra attitude.

I think so. We performed a service to those desiring to legally obtain
U.S. licenses. If you don't like it, I can live with that.

Just help
yourself to whatever you want, pass some around to your friends.

I helped myself to nothing. I helped others to obtain that which they
desired. Neither U.S. nor Finnish laws were broken. Almost all of
those who tested have visited the U.S. at least once and have used the
licenses they obtained. Again, if it bothers you, I can live with that.

Callsign: K3FK Class: Extra Codes: HAI USA
Name: RICHARD A IRVING
Addr1: PSC 78, Box 33
Addr2: APO, AP 96326-1000
Country: USA
Effective: 14 Nov 2002 Expires: 04 Nov 2007
FRN: 0007938624 What's this?
FCC: ULS Listing
Lookups: 211

Yep, that's K3FK

Callsign: WE3A Class: Extra Codes: HAI USA
Name: VILHO K HIILESMAA
Addr1: 2721 Halifax Court, c/o Steinman
Addr2: McKinney, TX 75070
Country: USA
Effective: 06 Sep 2000 Expires: 06 Sep 2010
FRN: 0006405997 What's this?
FCC: ULS Listing
Lookups: 118

Yep, that's Ville.

Callsign: WA8JOC Class: Extra Codes: HAI USA
Name: Kenneth S Scheper
Addr1: 5875 Cedaridge Dr
Addr2: Cincinnati, OH 45247
Country: USA
Effective: 03 Mar 2004 Expires: 31 May 2014
FRN: 0003051612 What's this?
FCC: ULS Listing
Lookups: 1075

Yep, that's Shep.

My name is Dave and exams were administered under the Laurel, MD VEC.

Rant away.

Dave K8MN

On 24 Nov 2004 01:31:47 GMT, Alun wrote:

Quite true, but if you live in Germany and nip down to your local USAF
facility for a VE sesion you can get a US licence, all legal and above
board.

There's an obvious solution. If someone takes a VE test overseas and has no
US address, they ought to be given a sequentially issued call in one of the
less populous FCC districts, say the 1st district.

Or they should be told to buzz off. Why should any U.S. license be
issued to someone in a foreign country that has no intention of using
it in the U.S. ?

And with the CEPT stuff, there's even more reason not to issue U.S.
licenses in many countries.

73, Jim KH2D