In article , Ham Guy
writes:

On 23 Jan 2005 20:12:32 GMT, (Jeffrey Herman)
wrote:

On 23 Jan 2005 00:30:49 GMT, N2EY wrote:
What I find interesting about "Dr." Laura is that she doesn't/hasn't lived
up to the very values she preaches to others. For example, she insists
on being called "Doctor" - but she's not an MD, Psy. D or even Ed.D.
She's got a Ph.D, but not in human psychology or therapy.


The "D" stands for "doctor." One can be a doctor of mathematics, doctor
of chemistry, doctor of medicine, doctor of psychology, et cetera. All
can use the title "doctor." Heck, even a lawyers can use that title due
their degree being a Juris Doctor ("Doctor of Law").

I'm sure you called some of your professors "Doctor" and never gave
it a second thought.

73, Jeff KH6O

Unless they *insist* on being addressed as "Doctor", as was the case
with former Homeland Security official Laura Callahan.

Exactly!

Back in my days at University, the profs who got the most respect were those
who didn't demand being addressed by specific titles.

One thing common to all of talk radio is that the host or an assistant has
his/her finger on the cutoff button all the time. Nobody dares to disagree with
the "expert" for fear of being cut off. At least HS is honest about it.

73 de Jim, N2EY

N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


Jeffrey Herman wrote:

On 23 Jan 2005 00:30:49 GMT, N2EY wrote:



What I find interesting about "Dr." Laura is that she doesn't/hasn't lived
up to the very values she preaches to others. For example, she insists
on being called "Doctor" - but she's not an MD, Psy. D or even Ed.D.
She's got a Ph.D, but not in human psychology or therapy.



The "D" stands for "doctor." One can be a doctor of mathematics, doctor
of chemistry, doctor of medicine, doctor of psychology, et cetera.


My favorite is doctor of electrical engineering.


All can use the title "doctor."


Yes, they can. But most that I know do not *require* it, outside their field of
expertise.


Heck, even a lawyers can use that title due
their degree being a Juris Doctor ("Doctor of Law").


But they don't usually do that.


I'm sure you called some of your professors "Doctor" and never gave
it a second thought.


Sure - because they were functioning in their field of expertise.


I'd bet he didn't call them Doctor followed by their first name!


Not a one.


And the other thing is, at least with all the PhD's I work with, asking
any one of them to comment outside their field gets the answer prefaced
with a "well, it isn't my field of expertise" or something to that effect.


BINGO!

Heck, you can ask most Ph.D EEs about house wiring, and most of them will
preface their remarks that way, because it *isn't* their field of EE.

hehe, and sometimes that is a very good thing!


Dr Laura is shelling out "advice" that is not related to her field of
expertise.


Exactly!

Thank heavens they toook her off the air here!

- Mike KB3EIA -

bb wrote:

N2EY wrote:

Dr Laura is shelling out "advice" that is not related to her field

of

expertise.

Exactly!

73 de Jim, N2EY


Now one has to have an advanced degree in "Commonsensology" to be able
to advocate such progressive ideas as faithfullness to marriage vows, a
responsiblity to raise your children as a parent and not as their
buddy, and forgiveness of those who've offended you. So sad.

As I had said, those are ideas that she has right. But if she was
handing out advice as Laura Schlessinger, that would be cool. But I
thought she was a psychologist for quite a while when I listened to her.
Lots of people are "allowed" to think that.

And remember that she is very judgemental on her show. Judgemental
people are in turn judged.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Phil Kane wrote:

On 24 Jan 2005 00:35:37 GMT, N2EY wrote:


All can use the title "doctor."

Yes, they can. But most that I know do not *require* it, outside
their field of expertise.


My brother-in-law has a PhD in Physiology (his field of expertise is
geriatic physiology). His "daytime" job is as a profusionist - the
expert who operates the heart-lung bypass machine during open-heart
surgery. For many years he was a professor and then department head
in his field at a famous teaching hospital.

In class, he was "Professor". In academic meetings he was "Doctor".
In the operating room he was "Mister" (he wasn't an MD - he knew too
much for that!) although he was usually referred to by his first
name. And yes, all the docs, including the anesthesiologists, asked
him for advice on how much and what kind of anesthesia to administer.


Heck, even a lawyers can use that title due
their degree being a Juris Doctor ("Doctor of Law").


Yup, I got one of those. AFAIK there are no US law schools which
grant a Batchelor of Laws degree any more.

So are you Dr. Kane, Dr. Phil, or just Citizen Kane?........ Ohhhh,
sorry, I just had to, Phil! 8^)



- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
bb wrote:

N2EY wrote:

Dr Laura is shelling out "advice" that is not related to her field

of

expertise.

Exactly!

73 de Jim, N2EY


Now one has to have an advanced degree in "Commonsensology" to be
able
to advocate such progressive ideas as faithfullness to marriage
vows, a
responsiblity to raise your children as a parent and not as their
buddy, and forgiveness of those who've offended you. So sad.

As I had said, those are ideas that she has right. But if she was
handing out advice as Laura Schlessinger, that would be cool. But I
thought she was a psychologist for quite a while when I listened to
her.
Lots of people are "allowed" to think that.

And remember that she is very judgemental on her show. Judgemental
people are in turn judged.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Mike, the way I read it, all will be judged. bb

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:37:30 -0500, Mike Coslo wrote:

So are you Dr. Kane, Dr. Phil, or just Citizen Kane?........ Ohhhh,
sorry, I just had to, Phil! 8^)

Just call me when the paychecks are delivered..... ggg
--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Kim wrote:
"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Dr Laura is shelling out "advice" that is not related to her field
of
expertise.

Exactly!

"Dr" Laura is a buffoon...man, I can't stand that woman!

I hadn't thought of the word "buffoon" for her, Kim, but
it fits perfectly.

I've seen it written that what LS wants to be is the scolding
parent who says 'do as I say, not as I do'. Her own life is no
example you'd want to hold up. Besides the fooling around with
a married man in the workplace (a la Ms. Lewinsky), there are
those clothing-less photos which she at first claimed were
fake but then had to later admit were real. Some might forgive
those things as youthful indiscretions, but LS doesn't forgive
the youthful indiscretions of others!

Then there's the fake "guests" on her short-lived TV show, the
preaching that moms must not have jobs and always have the
choice to stay home with their kids (but she didn't!)

You probably know many more.

73 de Jim, N2EY

btw, check this out and see if you can guess the author. I thought
you'd get a kick out of it, particularly the "big house" line.

Hint: It was written in 1991.

"Democracy is buying a big house you can't afford with money you don't
have to impress people you wish were dead. And, unlike communism,
democracy does not mean having just one ineffective political party; it
means having two ineffective political parties. ... Democracy is
welcoming people from other lands, and giving them something to hold
onto -- usually a mop or a leaf blower. It means that with proper
timing and scrupulous bookkeeping, anyone can die owing the government
a huge amount of money. ... Democracy means free television, not good
television, but free. ... And finally, democracy is the eagle on the
back of a dollar bill, with 13 arrows in one claw, 13 leaves on a
branch, 13 tail feathers, and 13 stars over its head -- this signifies
that when the white man came to this country, it was bad luck for the
Indians, bad luck for the trees, bad luck for the wildlife, and lights
out for the American eagle."

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Yup, I got one of those. AFAIK there are no US law schools which
grant a Batchelor of Laws degree any more.

So are you Dr. Kane, Dr. Phil, or just Citizen Kane?........ Ohhhh,
sorry, I just had to, Phil! 8^)

[don't ask about a "rosebud" tattoo... :-) ]

In article .com, "bb"
writes:

N2EY wrote:

Dr Laura is shelling out "advice" that is not related to her field
of
expertise.

Exactly!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Now one has to have an advanced degree in "Commonsensology" to be able
to advocate such progressive ideas as faithfullness to marriage vows, a
responsiblity to raise your children as a parent and not as their
buddy, and forgiveness of those who've offended you. So sad.

Seems like Rev. Jim is working up to another Sermon on the
Antenna Mount...this time on Credentialism, a seeming necessity
for all to state anything about anything in this recreational
amateur radio policy newsgroup.

Lately we've all been treated to the rantings of an Antichrist-
wannabe (aka Doctor Strangeglove) who wants to ban all
religions. That goes farther than some broadcasting program
content and opinions thereof.

Apparently Rev. Jim is displeased that anyone has opinions
counter to his own ultraconservatism (keeping amateur radio
safe and happy with good old fashioned morse code). He
claims "authoritiy" by virtue of an old extra class amateur
license which, apparently, overrides the First Amendment of
the United States Constitution applicable to all other U.S.
citizens. [democratic principles in action in amateurism?]

Excuse me, I have to go meet my wife "on the streets." (the
street in front of her hairdresser's) Doctor Strangeglove thinks
I first met her "on the streets." Wierd, wired Doctor. He is
so cross...

OK, everyone back to the Entertainment Newsgroup and reviews
of Broadcasting Service program content...

Len Anderson wrote:

Seems like Rev. Jim...(SNIP)

Who is Rev. Jim?

No one here signs anything "Rev. Jim" except you, Lennie.

Lately we've all been treated to the rantings of an Antichrist-
wannabe (aka Doctor Strangeglove)

Who's "Antichrist-Wannabe" or "Dr. Strangelove"...???

No one here signs anything like that.

Apparently Rev. Jim is displeased that anyone has opinions
counter to his own ultraconservatism (keeping amateur radio
safe and happy with good old fashioned morse code).

So far the ONLY person expressing any form of angst about having
opinions differed with is you, Lennie.

Excuse me, I have to go meet my wife "on the streets." (the
street in front of her hairdresser's) Doctor Strangeglove thinks
I first met her "on the streets."

I think it's so noble of you to have given her a place to stay and
out of the rain, Lennie. Bravo. And without any sex shared. Double
bravo.



Still on the 2-for-1 deal, Lennie?

Steve, K4YZ