FROM N9OGL INVENTION WEBSITE:

I've read your post on the newsgroup, and I have a few things to say,
This system would not be hooked into Kazaa or limewire or any other p2p
network. It would be a network that only amatuer would be able to use
(like Echolink). As for Warz, Movies and Music, Movies would be hard to
download on this system because the network is "bottlenecked" at the
node site. The same would also apply to music and warz, it wouldn't
work because of the speed on the radio side and the "bottleneck" at the
site.






Mr. Obvious wrote:
N9OGL wrote: (without citing whom he was responding to)
For your information you redneck, I've started another page where I
plan to post all my idea's and inventions........

Been there; seen that. There's currently one "invention" listed which
has absolutely NOTHING to offer the Amateur Radio service.

Let me repeat here this one key point: Internet communications =!
radiocommunications.

As an aside - the "invention" relies on the use of peer-to-peer I-net
networking run in conjunction with local packet nodes for content
forwarding. What amateur radio packet BBS SysOp in his or her right
mind is going to allow their station to be used as a conduit for
traffic from things such as Kazaa, Limewire and so forth?

In short, that's what was proposed.

Again - Internet communications =! radiocommunications. In this case,
there are some very, very good reasons for wanting the two kept
separate...

Tightly regulating the P2P apps which are allowed to connect into the
nodes might be one way of addressing these concerns. But isn't this
just a solution to a problem that doesn't exist?

Let us also not forget the possibility of the network being abused as
a
warez/music/movie distribution pipe. I for one would d@mn sure not
want
the resultant heat THAT would generate to happen to ham radio.

On 16 Mar 2005 00:26:15 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

I wonder how long it will take Toddie to ante up to his grandiose
claims?

Are delusions of grandeur better than no grandeur at all ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

N9OGL wrote:
FROM N9OGL INVENTION WEBSITE:

I've read your post on the newsgroup, and I have a few things to say,
This system would not be hooked into Kazaa or limewire or any other
p2p
network. It would be a network that only amatuer would be able to use
(like Echolink). As for Warz, Movies and Music, Movies would be hard
to
download on this system because the network is "bottlenecked" at the
node site. The same would also apply to music and warz, it wouldn't
work because of the speed on the radio side and the "bottleneck" at
the
site.

This is an "idea"...NOT an "invention". Guess they didn't teach
you the difference in college there, Toddie-boy! Get your money back,
quick!

And who the heck WANTS a "bottlenecked" communications
gateway...?!?!

Sheeeesh! What an IDIOT!

Steve, K4YZ

At this point it's still a solution looking for a problem.

Seriously.

MSYS, FBB and several other radio-based BBS systems will do all of what
you described. With MSYS, you have the ability to serve content from
callbook CDs or other mounted media - so a "Sale" or "Mods" directory
could be readily served up.

"...It would be a network that only amatuer would be able to use
(like Echolink)..."

Who is going to develop this app? Or is there one currently available?
How do you verify that -only amateur radio operators- can access the
I-net sites? IOW, what does your security model look like? Which parts
of the path are to be encrypted (so as to protect login credentials,
for example) and by what means will the encryption be accomplished?

I know a bit about this area, and can unequivocally say thay security
in such a system would not be trivial. Nor would the potential for
abuse, especially if there is any type of connection to it that can
directly be reached through the Internet. Choose your operating system
(platform) unwisely and the headaches become even bigger.

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

N9OGL wrote:
FROM N9OGL INVENTION WEBSITE:

I've read your post on the newsgroup, and I have a few things to say,
This system would not be hooked into Kazaa or limewire or any other
p2p
network. It would be a network that only amatuer would be able to use
(like Echolink). As for Warz, Movies and Music, Movies would be hard
to
download on this system because the network is "bottlenecked" at the
node site. The same would also apply to music and warz, it wouldn't
work because of the speed on the radio side and the "bottleneck" at
the
site.

This is an "idea"...NOT an "invention". Guess they didn't teach
you the difference in college there, Toddie-boy! Get your money back,
quick!

And who the heck WANTS a "bottlenecked" communications
gateway...?!?!

Sheeeesh! What an IDIOT!

Steve, K4YZ



When is k4yz going to post proof that MAN was cited, fined, etc. ?
Well?

"Phil Kane" wrote in message
ganews.com...
On 16 Mar 2005 00:26:15 -0800, K4YZ wrote:

I wonder how long it will take Toddie to ante up to his grandiose
claims?

Are delusions of grandeur better than no grandeur at all ??

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane




You ought to know.

73,

Lloyd

"K4YZ" wrote in message
ups.com...

N9OGL wrote:

First off I just started that blog today, so aturally there isn't
going
to be anthing there.

"aturally" there's nothing there because you've not done what you
claim you have.

Right now I don't have the time because I'm
getting ready to go school.

Ahhhhhhh...I seeeeeeee! You have to to place all these posts
announcing your new blog and DISclaiming my assertions, but you DON'T
have time to simply say "I invented instant coffee", or "I created the
Internet", or what ever wonderful thing it was.......

Simply answering the questions on the NG would have taken you less
than 2 minutes.

You had to take at least half an hour to answer these posts and
activate the new blog.

An extremely lame diversion, Todd. My 13 year old could come up
with a better diversion than that.

The whole purpose of that blog was because
some cry babies on here was calling me a liar, which I am not.

You're the only cry baby, Todd, and yes, you are lying.

So if
you don't want to be creative my suggestion to you is stay here in
the
this newsgroup with all the other dumbass appliance users.

Hey Todd...YOU are the one who wants to carry on QSO's with his
microwave oven...Not us...!!!

Putz

Steve, K4YZ



Hey Putz, when are you going to post proof k1man was cited or
sanctioned?

Well?

73,

Lloyd

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

N9OGL wrote: (without citing whom he was responding to)

For your information you redneck, I've started another page where I
plan to post all my idea's and inventions........my question to you
is,
what the have you ever invented.....Answer NOTHING, because like all
the other licensed CB operators on here you don't have the brains to
invent, only to badmouth people on and off the air.

Todd...So far you've proved yourself to be the idiot that you've
led us all to believe you are, and this was proof of it.

And what have I invented? Nothing. However I've been
decorated five times for lifesaving.

That beats anything Ronco or K-Tel could sell me at 3AM, Mr
Wizard.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ



When are you going to post proof k1man was sanctioned putz?

73,

Lloyd

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...

N9OGL wrote:
FROM N9OGL INVENTION WEBSITE:

I've read your post on the newsgroup, and I have a few things to say,
This system would not be hooked into Kazaa or limewire or any other
p2p
network. It would be a network that only amatuer would be able to use
(like Echolink). As for Warz, Movies and Music, Movies would be hard
to
download on this system because the network is "bottlenecked" at the
node site. The same would also apply to music and warz, it wouldn't
work because of the speed on the radio side and the "bottleneck" at
the
site.

This is an "idea"...NOT an "invention". Guess they didn't teach
you the difference in college there, Toddie-boy! Get your money back,
quick!

And who the heck WANTS a "bottlenecked" communications
gateway...?!?!

Sheeeesh! What an IDIOT!

Steve, K4YZ



When is k4yz going to post proof k1man was sanctioned?

I'm
getting ready to go school.

That's a good boy, Toddy, get all ready to go school. After school we
play radios at your house. Then we get busted microwave out of twash
and make twansmitter. We take it school for show and tell in special
education class. We tell other peoples not to tweak the twansmitter.