Hello Everyone,

In the thread about " Selling 52 Simplex Radios", the following
comments were made by Mike Coslo, "Rabbi Phil" and myself:

QUOTE:


Michael Coslo wrote:
Rabbi Phil wrote:
My friend Lennie Schwartz owns a radio store and was stuck with
close
to a hundred 52 simplex radios he could not sell. As his Rabbi &
chief
Sanhedrin, Lennie asked me for advice. Now Lennie has three
gorgeous
college-age daughters, so I had Lennie get them some cute little
outfits,
tight tops and tight short-shorts, similar to what the Hooters
girls wear.
We had the following message boldly printed on the butt end of the
shorts
and across the bust area of the tops:

"I MONITOR 52 SIMPLEX"


In less that 24 hours, Lennie sold all his 52 simplex radios at
five times
the
original asking price and had to order more. Every male ham of any

age swamped Lennie's radio store and demanded a 52 simplex radio.


NOTE FOR HANS: It is not the message that is so important, as how
you
communicate the message.

The only thing worse than being witty is not being witty.

Come on, you can do better! 8^)

Hey Mike...It's not THAT far fetched...Burghardt in NY has had that
young lady in the tight fitting sweater for years...Musta beem selling
SOMEthing!

UNQUOTE:

So...later this morning I received a private e-mail from one of
RRAP'S regular posters.

I have snipped the person's name, call sign and e mail headers
since the letter was sent in private e-mail. However the e-mail made
some very damning comments and a not-so-subtle threat.

QUOTE:

In rrap Steve Robeson wrote:

Burghardt in NY has had that
young lady in the tight fitting sweater
for years...Musta beem selling SOMEthing!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Burghardt Amateur Center is not in NY. It's a family business which
was established by Stan Burghardt, W0IT (SK) 68 years ago in a small
South Dakota town.

A few years ago one of Stan's long-time employees, Jim Smith W0MJY,
purchased the business from Stan and became the second owner. It
remains a family owned business, and the lady you mention is Jim's
daughter, Michele, KC0MYV, a wholesome midwesterner who is very active
in running the "business side" of the store. Often she is pictured
standing alongside her dad in their QST ads, never in my knowledge in a
provocative sweater.

The sleazy nudge-nudge insinuation in your "Musta beem seeling
SOMEthing!" comment is one of the lowest forms of attack I've ever seen
on rrap. I'll expect to see a sincere unconditional apology on rrap by
the end of today, or I'll consider forwarding your trashy comments to
Michele and Jim.

UNQUOTE

Here's my response to this "letter", made in a very public forum so
that the correspondant can't make any other assinine insinuations or
out-of-context editorializing:

(1) I stand corrected on the South Dakota -vs- New York. My
bust.

(2) I am sure the young lady is very good at what she does, and
is every bit the "wholesome" person you report. I NEVER said anything
to the contrary. You are welcome to cite the part of the post wherein
I said differently, but you and I both know it's not there.

(3) The young lady's character and wholesomeness notwithstanding,
THEY obviously had NO PROBLEM in posing her in a tight sweater,
profile, in order to attract some male attention to thier ads. "Rabbi
Phil" commented about someone else "selling radios" with pictures of
pretty women. I pointed out that another Amateur dealer had been doing
the same thing, and obviously it worked. Pictures of pretty women sell
everything from soft drinks to firearms to high speed automobiles.
Amateur Radio is no different. No problem.

Now, Dear Anonymous Writer (anonymous HERE...since you and I both
know who you are)...You can go RIGHT AHEAD and forward ANYthing you
like to ANY one you like. Tell them about "how trashy" the item was,
if you want, but it IS archived right ehre in Google.

You took offense...Too bad for you. You know as well as I do that
people can "take offense" at the most innocent of comments
all-the-while letting morbid profanity and bold threats roll off thier
backs. This is one of those moments.

Have a nice day.

Steve, K4YZ

When I asked the respondent where his/her self righteousness was
after the attacks on my daughet, this was the response I got and my
reply:

(QUOTE: HEADERS AGAIN SNIPPED FOR PRIVACY OF RESPONDENT)

The shots against your daughter are low-life, as was the one you made
about Jim Smith and his daughter.

There were no "shots", (Name Deleted), ...The point was that a
pretty face was able to sell radios. There are others in QST, CQ, etc.

If you see anything more sinister than that, I submit that YOU
have a very serious problem.

But the difference is that you are present on rrap to defend your
family while the Smith family is not represented on rrap against your
"Musta beem selling SOMEthing!" insinuations.

I reiterate the above. You are the one with a problem, (Anonymous
Writer). You're looking for evil in everything you see. I could quote
Genesis in RRAP and you'd portray me as the evil landlord.

Having said that, I must credit you with having the nads not to hide
your attack behind an anonymous email address.

There was no attack. You are still challenged to cite an
"attack". There was only (YOU) looking for a fight. At least you kept
this one private. Bravo.

UNQUOTE:

I think there's some real significant mental issues with someone
who finds some sinister evil in commenting that pretty faces sell
radios (an "attack", as (s/he) called it), as opposed to those who
defile the memory of a dead child.

But...ya pays your money and you takes your choice.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:

I think there's some real significant mental issues with someone
who finds some sinister evil in commenting that pretty faces sell
radios (an "attack", as (s/he) called it), as opposed to those who
defile the memory of a dead child.

But...ya pays your money and you takes your choice.

After asking the respondant to cite, publically and/or privately
where the alleged "attack" was made, the party closed by telling me
they wouldn't talk with me anymore and blocked e mail.

Guess it didn't matter that they started the exchange. Some folks
just don't like to have thier wisdom challenged. Or maybe they were
too embarrassed when they realized they had jumped the gun on thier own
accusations.

Of course the issue wasn't addressed, nor were questions posed
answered. I didn't really expect as much, but considering the
respondant, I HAD hoped for better.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Chubby Nursie,

I've been valiantly trying to follow this one-sided thread about threats
made on you by some anonymous person (or maybe not) in some private(?) email
exchange (how do you exchange emails with someone anonymous?). I've come to
the conclusion that

a) you're making it up, or
b) you're corresponding with a phantom who is invisible to the rest of us
here on rrap, or
c) you've found a miraculous way of exchanging email with anonymous senders

If the answer is a) then shame on you.
If the answer is b) then seek mental counseling
If the answer is c) then consult a patent attorney because you've a gold
mine on your hands.

73,

M.A.N.

--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord,
make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire

Mel A. Nomah wrote:
Chubby Nursie,

I've been valiantly trying to follow this one-sided thread about
threats
made on you by some anonymous person (or maybe not) in some
private(?) email
exchange (how do you exchange emails with someone anonymous?). I've
come to
the conclusion that

Ironic that YOU would say that, eh...?!?!

Comeout from behind your veil, oh cowardly anonymous one.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Mel A. Nomah wrote:
Chubby Nursie,

I've been valiantly trying to follow this one-sided thread about threats
made on you by some anonymous person (or maybe not) in some private(?) email
exchange (how do you exchange emails with someone anonymous?). I've come to
the conclusion that

a) you're making it up, or
b) you're corresponding with a phantom who is invisible to the rest of us
here on rrap, or
c) you've found a miraculous way of exchanging email with anonymous senders

If the answer is a) then shame on you.
If the answer is b) then seek mental counseling
If the answer is c) then consult a patent attorney because you've a gold
mine on your hands.

73,

M.A.N.

--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord,
make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire

The other poster is real, Mel.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
:
: The other poster is real, Mel.
:
: - Mike KB3EIA -

Hmmmmmm...... then my usenet link is broken, because all I see are posts
from K4YZ directed at Anonymous, and nothing from "the other poster".

Maybe my usenet link is screening out Anonymous. Guess that's probably a
good thing!

Thanks.

M.A.N.


--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord,
make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire

K4YZ wrote:
Hello Everyone,

In the thread about " Selling 52 Simplex Radios", the following
comments were made by Mike Coslo, "Rabbi Phil" and myself:

QUOTE:


Michael Coslo wrote:
Rabbi Phil wrote:
My friend Lennie Schwartz owns a radio store and was stuck with
close
to a hundred 52 simplex radios he could not sell. As his Rabbi &
chief
Sanhedrin, Lennie asked me for advice. Now Lennie has three
gorgeous
college-age daughters, so I had Lennie get them some cute little
outfits,
tight tops and tight short-shorts, similar to what the Hooters
girls wear.
We had the following message boldly printed on the butt end of
the
shorts
and across the bust area of the tops:

"I MONITOR 52 SIMPLEX"


In less that 24 hours, Lennie sold all his 52 simplex radios at
five times
the
original asking price and had to order more. Every male ham of
any

age swamped Lennie's radio store and demanded a 52 simplex radio.


NOTE FOR HANS: It is not the message that is so important, as
how
you
communicate the message.

The only thing worse than being witty is not being witty.

Come on, you can do better! 8^)

Hey Mike...It's not THAT far fetched...Burghardt in NY has had
that
young lady in the tight fitting sweater for years...Musta beem
selling
SOMEthing!

But not radios, huh???

UNQUOTE:

So...later this morning I received a private e-mail from one of
RRAP'S regular posters.

I have snipped the person's name, call sign and e mail headers
since the letter was sent in private e-mail. However the e-mail made
some very damning comments and a not-so-subtle threat.

QUOTE:

In rrap Steve Robeson wrote:

Burghardt in NY has had that
young lady in the tight fitting sweater
for years...Musta beem selling SOMEthing!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Burghardt Amateur Center is not in NY. It's a family business which
was established by Stan Burghardt, W0IT (SK) 68 years ago in a small
South Dakota town.

A few years ago one of Stan's long-time employees, Jim Smith W0MJY,
purchased the business from Stan and became the second owner. It
remains a family owned business, and the lady you mention is Jim's
daughter, Michele, KC0MYV, a wholesome midwesterner who is very
active
in running the "business side" of the store. Often she is pictured
standing alongside her dad in their QST ads, never in my knowledge in
a
provocative sweater.

The sleazy nudge-nudge insinuation in your "Musta beem seeling
SOMEthing!" comment is one of the lowest forms of attack I've ever
seen
on rrap.

Not really, but it is true to Steve's style.

I'll expect to see a sincere unconditional apology on rrap by
the end of today, or I'll consider forwarding your trashy comments to
Michele and Jim.

Unlikely.

UNQUOTE

Here's my response to this "letter", made in a very public forum
so
that the correspondant can't make any other assinine insinuations or
out-of-context editorializing:

(1) I stand corrected on the South Dakota -vs- New York. My
bust.

(2) I am sure the young lady is very good at what she does, and
is every bit the "wholesome" person you report. I NEVER said
anything
to the contrary. You are welcome to cite the part of the post
wherein
I said differently, but you and I both know it's not there.

(3) The young lady's character and wholesomeness
notwithstanding,
THEY obviously had NO PROBLEM in posing her in a tight sweater,
profile, in order to attract some male attention to thier ads.
"Rabbi
Phil" commented about someone else "selling radios" with pictures of
pretty women. I pointed out that another Amateur dealer had been
doing
the same thing, and obviously it worked. Pictures of pretty women
sell
everything from soft drinks to firearms to high speed automobiles.
Amateur Radio is no different. No problem.

Now, Dear Anonymous Writer (anonymous HERE...since you and I
both
know who you are)...You can go RIGHT AHEAD and forward ANYthing you
like to ANY one you like. Tell them about "how trashy" the item was,
if you want, but it IS archived right ehre in Google.

You took offense...Too bad for you. You know as well as I do
that
people can "take offense" at the most innocent of comments
all-the-while letting morbid profanity and bold threats roll off
thier
backs. This is one of those moments.

Have a nice day.

Steve, K4YZ

Innocent comments - hi, hi! Robeson likes to make inuendo.

If you call him on it, he'll try to turn you into the deviant.

He's always the victim. Probably learned that tactic while rehearsing
for his 100% disability hearing.

Mike Coslo wrote:
Mel A. Nomah wrote:
Chubby Nursie,

I've been valiantly trying to follow this one-sided thread about
threats
made on you by some anonymous person (or maybe not) in some
private(?) email
exchange (how do you exchange emails with someone anonymous?).
I've come to
the conclusion that

a) you're making it up, or
b) you're corresponding with a phantom who is invisible to the rest
of us
here on rrap, or
c) you've found a miraculous way of exchanging email with anonymous
senders

If the answer is a) then shame on you.
If the answer is b) then seek mental counseling
If the answer is c) then consult a patent attorney because you've a
gold
mine on your hands.

73,

M.A.N.

--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O
Lord,
make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire

The other poster is real, Mel.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Do you and Robeson share an e-mail account?

bb wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

Mel A. Nomah wrote:

Chubby Nursie,

I've been valiantly trying to follow this one-sided thread about

threats

made on you by some anonymous person (or maybe not) in some

private(?) email

exchange (how do you exchange emails with someone anonymous?).

I've come to

the conclusion that

a) you're making it up, or
b) you're corresponding with a phantom who is invisible to the rest

of us

here on rrap, or
c) you've found a miraculous way of exchanging email with anonymous

senders

If the answer is a) then shame on you.
If the answer is b) then seek mental counseling
If the answer is c) then consult a patent attorney because you've a

gold

mine on your hands.

73,

M.A.N.

--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O

Lord,

make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire

The other poster is real, Mel.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Do you and Robeson share an e-mail account?

Nope. but the person involved emailed me also. And since it was private
email, I won't divulge the name.

As for the content of Steve's post, a person can either take it to mean
that an attractive person used in an advertisement is a successful
tactic ala "must be selling something", or that an attractive person in
an advertisement is selling sex. I chose to read it as being a
successful tactic, because most ads with attractive people are selling
other things.

Too bad, that. Otherwise I might have a career as a supermodel......... ;^)

- Mike KB3EIA -