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Old May 16th 05, 02:12 PM
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Deregulation that is!

On 26th of May OfCom the UK radio Authority will issue a consulation
document on the future of amateur radio licensing in the UK. The
consulation is open to all and will ask a number of questions on
options such as licence for life, de-regulation and:

"..options to make the (UK) amateur radio service WT Act
licence-exempt" [#1] - That's all amateur radio exempt from licensing
under the UK Wireless Telegraphy Act, it'll be a nightmare on the
bands, HF included.

Just so you do not miss this important event in world amateur radio,
add yourself to the mailing list he

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/subsc...iospectrum.htm

and have your say. You will be emailed immediately the consulation is
published. Have your say!

73deG1LVN

ref #1 -
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/i...ur/forthcoming

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Old May 16th 05, 02:22 PM
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"G1LVN" wrote in message
ups.com...

ref #1 -

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/i...ur/forthcoming


no matter how many times I read it:

"For the avoidance of doubt, whilst the formal public consultation will put
forward a number of other options for the future, those options are
explicitly not recommended by Ofcom. Specifically, Ofcom will not recommend
any options to make the amateur radio service WT Act licence-exempt;
however, for transparency and completeness, this will be put forward as an
option in the public consultation in order to gather the community's views "

.....something still stinks.


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The _EXACT reference is worse than that Walt:


"For the avoidance of doubt, whilst the formal public consultation will
put forward a number of other options for the future, those options are
explicitly not recommended by Ofcom. Specifically, Ofcom will not
recommend any options to make the amateur radio service WT Act
licence-exempt; however, for transparency and completeness, this will
be put forward as an option in the public consultation in order to
gather the community's views"

Q1- who is doubting and why?
Q2- when exactly is the "future" and if they are not recommended then
why put the forward?
Q3- why are they putting WT Act Licence-exemption down as an option?
Why even mention it? Why ask for a raise of hands even if the do not
"recommend".
Q4-who are they "recommending" it to?

Incidentally - what do you make of this job advert, currently running
on OfCom's website?

http://tinyurl.com/bnoqk

"Change Management Senior Associate: Deregulation and Contracting out
unit - Riverside House

The Deregulation and Contracting Out Unit is responsible for managing
contracts to deliver licences for Citizens' Band, Amateur Radio,
Maritime and Aeronautical users (presently circa 160,000 licences each
year) and planning for the deregulation of relevant licence classes.
The team also deals with technical queries from licence-holders,
provides international representation on spectrum access groups,
develops new licence schemes to improve customer service, negotiates
spectrum access for special events and manages the contract for
broadcasting and special events licensing.

The successful candidate will support the Unit Head in implementing
deregulation in these bands as well as contributing to plans to reform
the management of Programme Making and Special Events (PMSE)
spectrum...................."

I could go on. Looks like it's all decided

73 de G1LVN

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Old May 16th 05, 05:36 PM
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 14:53:36 +0100, Walt Davidson
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Any truth to the rumour that DuffCom have been sending an emissary or
two around the country, urging CBers to vote for the complete de-reg.
package.


Half the M3's still are CBers

about no more reciprocal licences, no more repeater networks, no more
Nov's, etc. etc. Well they had to follow the script that RSPP sent
them, didn't they?


Who is RSPP?

73 de M3WWS
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On 16 May 2005 08:23:24 -0700, "G1LVN" wrote:

The Deregulation and Contracting Out Unit is responsible for managing
contracts to deliver licences for Citizens' Band, Amateur Radio,
Maritime and Aeronautical users (presently circa 160,000 licences each
year) and planning for the deregulation of relevant licence classes.
The team also deals with technical queries from licence-holders,
provides international representation on spectrum access groups,
develops new licence schemes to improve customer service, negotiates
spectrum access for special events and manages the contract for
broadcasting and special events licensing.


Oh goody! I'm gonna get me one of those 121.5MHz AM transceivers and
talk-down some planes... Well if the band is (according to your
interpretation) going to be deregulated, why not?

A new game for the 'kiddies' instead of playing with flight-sim
programs, they can crash planes into each other.

Bloody likely they'll deregulate aeronautical radio, isn't it?

The successful candidate will support the Unit Head in implementing
deregulation in these bands as well as contributing to plans to reform
the management of Programme Making and Special Events (PMSE)
spectrum...................."

I could go on.


And you no doublt will.

Looks like it's all decided


COBBLERS. The show ain't over until the fat lady sings.

Old Nick.

LOL




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On 16 May 2005 08:23:24 -0700, "G1LVN" wrote:

The Deregulation and Contracting Out Unit is responsible for managing
contracts to deliver licences for Citizens' Band, Amateur Radio,
Maritime and Aeronautical users (presently circa 160,000 licences each
year) and planning for the deregulation of relevant licence classes.
The team also deals with technical queries from licence-holders,
provides international representation on spectrum access groups,
develops new licence schemes to improve customer service, negotiates
spectrum access for special events and manages the contract for
broadcasting and special events licensing.


Oh goody! I'm gonna get me one of those 121.5MHz AM transceivers and
talk-down some planes... Well if the band is (according to your
interpretation) going to be deregulated, why not?

A new game for the 'kiddies' instead of playing with flight-sim
programs, they can crash planes into each other.

Bloody likely they'll deregulate aeronautical radio, isn't it?


Well yes it does if this job description [#1] is anything to go by:

As Change Management Senior Associate for the Deregulation and Contracting
out unit you will be responsible for:
.. Liaising with colleagues throughout Ofcom (including IS) to ensure that
the reformed licensing systems are delivered on time.
.. Developing plans to reform the management of PMSE spectrum by introducing
a Spectrum Management Organisation (SMO).
.. Liaising with colleagues within Ofcom and with external stakeholders to
establish SMO spectrum property rights in sufficient detail for an auction
to be viable.
.. Negotiating sufficiently liberal coexistence agreements with primary
spectrum users to enable Ofcom to withdraw from the current licence by
licence clearance process.
.. Liaising with colleagues throughout Ofcom to identify issues arising from
policy and market reviews, which affect the Citizens' Band, Amateur,
Aeronautical, Maritime or PMSE spectrum sectors.

73de M3WWS

Ref #1 - http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/jobs/o...cmsass?a=87101


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Old May 16th 05, 06:59 PM
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"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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On 16 May 2005 08:23:24 -0700, "G1LVN" wrote:

I could go on.


Don't bother!

Looks like it's all decided


Indeed.

"The closing date for applications is 8 April 2005."

I wonder if the L.I.A.R. got the job.
:-)


That'll be uk.radio.amateur closed down next week then. OfCom regulate ISP's
in the UK as well.

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"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 16:59:37 +0000 (UTC), "gareth"
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That'll be uk.radio.amateur closed down next week then. OfCom regulate ISP's
in the UK as well.


I don't know why you're bothered about it, Gareth.

You don't need an amateur licence for your silly Echolink system
anyway ... and if you *must* have RF gateways (although I can't think
why), they are available on eQSO using PMR446 - which is already
deregulated.

73 de G3NYY

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Congratulations Wlat

Nicely put

DieSea


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Old May 16th 05, 10:43 PM
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:isten sunshine it's IRLP not echolink, get it right OK!

http://qsy.to/eqso/

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Old May 17th 05, 08:51 AM
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"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
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You don't need an amateur licence for your silly Echolink system

73 de G3NYY

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Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com


Actually yes you do!, you have to send in a copy of your validation doc
before you can use the software

Andy MW0GUV


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