"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:
"KØHB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote


Our club group built a 3 element 160 meter yagi out of steel beer cans
for a Field Day one year.


Hey Dan,

Do you know how to tell the difference between a fairy-tale and a
sea-story?

Scroll down
































A fairy-tale starts out --- "Once upon a time....."

A sea-story starts out --- "Now this is no ****....."


dit dit

73, de Hans, K0HB





Wow Hans, thats the same way in the Army and Air Force. The Marines
believe anything.....just kidding.

Dan/W4NTI

















This looks like submarine duty down here.

"John Smith" wrote:
Hmmm, I could record a long QSO on cw and play it for the truckers...
give 'em something to appreciate... grin

So the hams didn't feel left, could record the truckers and play that for
them... evil'er grin

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Dan:

You will never find me using cw...

Well, you don't need it on CB.

It's been done, JJ.






You can eat **** and die too for all I care, you top posting freak.

wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:


John Smith wrote:


... the "anateur exams" are certainly no hinderence, they always
have
been as simple as pie--a college grad trained in the art of "test
taking" could study for a day and pass the most challenging


I think you need to go back and look at the early exams. There was
a time when an applicant was required to actually draw a schematic of
various circuits and explaine how they worked.

Is that supposed to be hard?


Depends on the person. For someone who knows a little radio theory and
the regulations of the amateur radio service, none of the tests were
very hard.

Heck, I passed the old General and Advanced class tests in 1968 - at
the age of 14. That was the summer between 8th and 9th grade for me. No
big deal, there were younger hams than me with Extras back then.

The difference between then and now is the test *method* more than the
content.

And even after the exams
became multiple choice type,


(about 1960 for the General)


one had to know the material to get the
correct answer as the answers to the acutal questions were not
available.

Yeah. You'll find that question pool bugaboo in a lot of fields
thesedays, including fields where if a person makes a mistake because of
not knowing the material, lives may be lost.


Good or bad, I don't think FCC will go back to the old way.

Nope.


There were study guides with sample questions, but no
questions pools with the exact answer available for memorization.

Now if you want *really* hard, make it no study guide, no question
pool, and the applicant has to do all the learning research with NO
idea of what is on the test! 8^)


The old study guides were essay-type Q&A that outlined the general area
of knowledge. One question could cover a *lot* of ground. The old Extra
study guide was as much as 279 questions at one point.


If you
did not know the theory, then you probably weren't going to pass.
Again john smith knows not of what he speaks.

I took the tests from the question pools. For me, they were all
pretty easy. They were not easy because of the question pools. They were
easy because they were fairly basic material.


But you had seen the exact Q&A before, right?

Weell, the key word is "exact". I noticed that when I took my Extra
exam, many of the answers appeared in a different order than they were
in the question pool. I came away convinced that the person who
memorized the question pool was actually doing things the hard way.

For the Extra, I spent a week taking the on-line tests. Questions
that I knew the answer to, I got right of course.

Those that I got wrong earned me a trip to the books or online to
find out why I got it wrong. By the time I was finished, I aced the test
just about every time on line, and then in the actual test.

And I knew the material.

Elapsed time, one week.


For you.

Absolutely.

But I bet you had more than a little electrical/radio knowledge before
you ever looked at a ham radio study guide.

Yup. I think that my level of expertise was just a little skewed. I got
sidelined onto computers fairly early in the 1970's. Then I worked
mostly in digital, then changed careers, going into photography,
videography, and 3-d animation (waaayy too many hats to wear, but
whatever) But I did have a good bit of electrical experience


Now the Morse code was another thing entirely. That was hard.


But then I'm just a dum nickel extra! ;^)


I bet it says the same thing on your license as it does on mine. With
no mention of dumb or nickles, Mike.

Each of us met the requirements in force at the time of being licensed.
That the requirements changed over time isn't usually due to the people taking
the new tests.

Yup. My comment was mostly sarcasm. The only way that anyone knows my
"vintage" is by my callsign

Looking down on somebody today because they didn't take the same tests
you took years ago is kind of like getting mad at someone who paid less
for a VCR last week than you paid 20 years ago....

HAR!

- Mike KB3EIA -

Steveo:

You name is almost as cute as a girls, you sound gay... there is nothing
wrong with gay people yanno, but better if you stay with your own kind...
grin

Top posters bother gays yanno...

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote:
Hmmm, I could record a long QSO on cw and play it for the truckers...
give 'em something to appreciate... grin

So the hams didn't feel left, could record the truckers and play that for
them... evil'er grin

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Dan:

You will never find me using cw...

Well, you don't need it on CB.

It's been done, JJ.






You can eat **** and die too for all I care, you top posting freak.

Mike Coslo wrote:
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:

Can you draw the schematic for a push-pull RF amplifier using link
coupling and explain how it works? Can you draw an AM transmitter
using Heising modulation and explain how it works?


Given a little bit of studying, yes.

Ah, there is the key, "studying", not just memorizing. Once you study it
and know it, it isn't hard.

"John Smith" wrote:
Steveo:

You name is almost as cute as a girls, you sound gay... there is nothing
wrong with gay people yanno, but better if you stay with your own kind...
grin

Top posters bother gays yanno...

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote:
Hmmm, I could record a long QSO on cw and play it for the truckers...
give 'em something to appreciate... grin

So the hams didn't feel left, could record the truckers and play that
for them... evil'er grin

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Dan:

You will never find me using cw...

Well, you don't need it on CB.

It's been done, JJ.






You can eat **** and die too for all I care, you top posting freak.

-top post corrected-

You name is almost as cute as a girls, you sound gay... there is nothing
wrong with gay people yanno, but better if you stay with your own kind...
grin

Top posters bother gays yanno...

Warmest regards,
John

Oh calling CBer's gay is a new approach, ****stick. I'm done reading
yore tripe. -buh bye-

Hey, it is ok to be gay, you can't help it (true you did come into the world
defecating a size one, and now a size eleven--EWWWWWWWWWW!)... don't go away
mad, just go away... grin

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote:
Steveo:

You name is almost as cute as a girls, you sound gay... there is nothing
wrong with gay people yanno, but better if you stay with your own kind...
grin

Top posters bother gays yanno...

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote:
Hmmm, I could record a long QSO on cw and play it for the truckers...
give 'em something to appreciate... grin

So the hams didn't feel left, could record the truckers and play that
for them... evil'er grin

Warmest regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Dan:

You will never find me using cw...

Well, you don't need it on CB.

It's been done, JJ.






You can eat **** and die too for all I care, you top posting freak.

-top post corrected-

You name is almost as cute as a girls, you sound gay... there is nothing
wrong with gay people yanno, but better if you stay with your own kind...
grin

Top posters bother gays yanno...

Warmest regards,
John

Oh calling CBer's gay is a new approach, ****stick. I'm done reading
yore tripe. -buh bye-

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:

Can you draw the schematic for a push-pull RF amplifier using link
coupling and explain how it works? Can you draw an AM transmitter using
Heising modulation and explain how it works?

Given a little bit of studying, yes. Do you want B or AB for the pp amp?

Heising is a plate modulation method for a type A amp.

Buzz, it's just different, not harder.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote:


I believe what the gentleman was trying to convey is that the present
day tests are a total farce. The answer is readly available and it is
just a "formality" to even pass it.


Absolutely, otherwise there are a lot of hams that wouldn't be hams.
People like toddieboy, wogie and lot of others who would not be hams if
they really had to have technical knowledge to pass a test instead of
just memorizing answers.

Look Buzz, I'll readily admit that you are 100's of times a better ham
than I can ever hope to be, all because of the harder test you had to
take. Please put up with me! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

I
hope they enjoy my tunes:

LOL!!!, the 60's 70 are over big guy


1) Washington Post March
2) Anchors aweigh
3) The Thunderer
4) The Stars and Stripes Forever (my favorite)

I've got others on CDs. From all of the services. Funny, but I have a
feeling that they will be clamoring for "regulation" all of a sudden
)


With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

Oh Yeah................ Go to hear from You Jim.

Landshark


Hello, Sharkie

My bad. I meant 700 watt system - not something from the 70s LOL. All
Bose
speakers. A couple hundred watts on the bass alone (and it does shake,
although I keep the volume down).

Good to hear from you too. I'm not really mad, just disappointed that
folks
don't understand the need for regulation. I have a dog and she stays in
the
house for the most part. When I have her out, if she barks more than a
few
times, I bring her in. The neighbors don't need to hear a dog barking for
20 minutes or more.

I know the feeling. I also know, neighbors should work things out rather
than call the police over such trivial things.

Same thing with the stereo system.

Heck, I've made a mistake in the past. Had a party with the Hammond
turned
up pretty well (as well as the Leslies) and the cops showed up. I
apologized and shut it off. Never done that since (and that was 25 years
ago). No biggie; anyone can make a mistake.

Know the feeling I had my cousins out last year, Thursday night and was
out in my backyard 2 minutes past 10, started heading into the house and
they came a running out and said the music was keeping their kid awake. Went
over the next morning, Six pack & bottle of wine in hand as an apology, the
wife says "oh you were keeping me awake". I mean, it's not like I do this
but once every 3 years, show a little patience., I do when they start firing
off fireworks into the air, midweek after
10pm.



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



Landshark


--
Kindness is the language which the deaf
can hear and the blind can see.