From: "bb" on 4 Jun 2005 11:13:35 -0700

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
KC8GXW wrote:

"Ham" is a label given to certain people with a certain belief system.

What "belief systems", Vipul...?!?!

"Belief systems" is a catch-phrase you usurped from Lennie
Anderson. Lennie is NOT a good role model to scam lines from.

People don't have belief systems?

Sure they do.

But your mentor uses the term "belief system" as if it were dirty.

I see no evidence of that.

There are many, many, many forms of belief systems. Few of them
are "dirty." But that isn't what Robeson is trying to convey
here. Robeson simply wants to insult me anywhichway he can.
That's nothing new since he's been trying and trying and trying
to do that for years. [he's become very trying] He fails in all
attempts.

He has "belief systems" too, but they don't seem to include
honesty, trustworthiness or strength of character.

Some people who claim to have all of the above are creeps.

"Lessee....430."

Brian, the word "creep" is far too much an understatement to
describe Robeson's behavior in here. :-)


Gee, Brain...You got the point but didn't even knoiw it...

There's no "rule"...Yet Vippy seems to think there is.

Good for you.

I see no evidence that Vipul thinks there's a rule. I only see
evidence of you thinking there is.

NONE of us can see into Stebie's thinking processes. I doubt
anyone would want to! :-)

It must be a strange, twisted place.


They are often older, and male.

So...Shall we implement euthansia and castration if a licensee
dares to get older or have the wrong chromosomes...?!?!

Shall you?

Care to be number 1? I can help you either way you care to go...

Is that a threat?

Tsk, tsk. Gonad the Librarian flexes his mighty muscle and
pretends to be ruff and tuff. :-)

If only his medical supervisors knew how he used implied PHYSICAL
HARM and threats of mutilation against others. Tsk. That just adds
to a series of hypocritical boastings he's done while claiming to
be a helper/savior(?) and "saving lives."


So amateurs have terminology and -don't- like to use it? Are you
agreeing with Vipul or disagreeing with Vipul???

I am humiliating Vipul.

You da man!

That poor soul tries humiliation on everyone who disagrees with him.

Somehow he never, ever learned about "the inherent good will of
amateurs" as mentioned by the FCC. Tsk, tsk. :-(

HE seems to think that there's some black undertones to Amateurs
using subject-specific terminology.

Amateurs are encouraged to use plain language in every emergency
management manual or training course that I've ever seen. Maybe Vipul
is on to something. Maybe you're not.

Stebie is only "on" humiliation of those he disagrees with...


I have pointed out to him, repeatedly, that there is NO human
endeavor that doesn't ahve it's own "lingo".

Sleeping?

Heh heh. Captain Obvious has been napping on the job... :-)


Chicken politics. Squawk, squawk. Like saying "Lessee....430" without
explanation.

No expalnation is necessary.

More "lingo?" Quit using big words that you don't know what they mean.

Maybe Stebie knows the call sign prefixes for the Expal nation?

He might "ahve" that in his wallet...



From what demographic do you get your data?

Why did you drop "Lessee....430" in one of your posting right before
the Dayton Hamvention? Were you planning on stopping by my home while
you were travelling in Ohio?

"Steve and the Boys" were looking for "action" and maybe found
some in seven other places...


I am basically conservative in my politics. I
am a former Paramedic and and presently an ACLS Nurse. I am a licensed
aviator.

Not to mention a 30+ year licensed Amateur.

Paramedic and Nurse is a belief system? Aviation is a belief system?

Civilian Private Pilot...who thinks he is "Pilot In Command"
when sitting right-seat in a two-place single-engine general
aviation aircraft! Yup! That be BELIEF SYSTEM stretched right
out past the breaking point. :-)

Mebbe Stebie got "command pilot wings" to wear on his patch-
adorned flight suit? He be "Pilot In COMMAND," very important!

Tsk. Nursing and Piloting don't directly involve radio
communications...and they certainly don't get into radio
technology of same.


What was YOUR point?

What was your point in saying, "Lessee....430?"

What was your point in "Somalia", "unlicensed devices", "ARES",
etc etc etc?

Why can't you answer a question about you dropping my house number into
one of your posts prior to the Dayton Hamvention?

Stebie got CAUGHT, can't bring himself to admit to making
nastygram in here...tries misdirection through attempts at
other personal insult. Tsk, tsk.


I publically acknowledge that Steven J Robeson, 20WPM Extra is not a
good Amateur.

Brian, I disagree. I say Stebie is Good for nothing...


Lennie doesn't accept ANY of us...

Not true.

He doesn't. He talks nice to you because of your public expression
of "admration" fro him in the face of copious evidence that he's a
chronic liar.

You're a chronic liar.

An' he no spell real good, either...

Poor Stebie is only "speaking" for his many personalities.
NOT for all of amateur radio.


There is no one person, group, organization, entity or "belief
system" that dictates what makes a "good ham".

Not according to Larry, Dick, or Kelly.

Oh?

Where?

I've enver seen one of them state that one and only one person,
group organization, entity or belief system is the only true one.

Quotes, please.

Dick quit being a VE because he didn't """believe""" that the new
people were worthy of his time. Larry is on record numerous times
telling everyone who tripped over his postings that he was better than
everyone else. Kelly, well, he Kelly.

Stebie have both short and long-term memory loss. Tsk, tsk.

Stebie wants to rehash old, old arguments? Not win first time,
hoping to win this time? :-) Tsk, like Jimmie JAMES.


Unfortunately, if only more amateur on here would come forward and
condemn those who exhibit the characteristics of a "bad ham," such as
yourself...

But what transpires in here is NOT "Amateur Radio".

An amateur is balanced.

Stebie is human coax, very unbalanced.


You can discuss my on-air operating with K0HB, K8MN and N2EY if
you care to.

N0IMD is not in my log, on ANY mode.




Bruce is Amateur Radio's spoiled potatoe.

Hi!

Stebie run for vice president? He spell singular potato
wrong!


I don't care who likes whom. I merely stated that most of the
trouble-makers are Extra licensed amateurs, and I stand by my
statement.

Truism. QED.


Who are "the", Brain? (I know you meant "they")...???

Those who feel they have to agree with ham beliefs, or at least play
lip service to it or else feel the scorn of the hard-boiled hams.

More truisms. QED.



Lennie's never availed himself of it.

Nor have most Americans, even those who are highly skilled in radio
communications and engineering.

Poor PCTA Extras of the Double Standard, they very outnumbered.


I just can't understand why you would post my house number prior to the
Dayton Hamvention unless you planned on stopping by while you were in
Ohio.

Were you planning on stopping by? Didn't you have something to "teach"
me?

"Steve and the Boys" got their KKK costumes dirty, had to
find a free laundromat to wash them. They tried washing
in stream but EPA fined them for polluting the water. That's
why "Steve and the Boys" couldn't get to your house in time.

Ho hum. Another "hostile action" for the Kode Klucks' Klan.

Yawn.

Len can say in 12 kb what others can better say in 1.

You talk a lot, Len. Yet you manage to say so little.

The above fraud, calling himself "John Smith" and sending from the
falsified address of "From: "John Smith" nospam@anon"

Is not I...

There is only one John Smith and I am him--all others are only a cheap
imitation...

Warmest regards,
John
"John Smith" nospam@anon wrote in message
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Yawn.

Len can say in 12 kb what others can better say in 1.

You talk a lot, Len. Yet you manage to say so little.

From: "Jim Hampton" on Sun 5 Jun 2005 06:01


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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Tell ya what, if Lennie comes up on frequency on CW, I'm gonna quit right
then and there!

Start packing. Pick up last check in Accounting Department.

Fort Monmouth, NJ, a June afternoon in 1952, basic radio skills
for Microwave Radio Relay MOS at the Signal School in a general
purpose school building: Small 6AG7-6L6 MOPA transmitter on
about 7.5 MHz, crystal controlled, CW only with a "straight key."
Measure RF power into "dummy load" (light bulb), then connect
to wire antenna and "load up," see difference in meter readings,
hear keying from instructor's simple five-tube receiver. Hear
instructor cuss out one for "sending nasty words on-air" with
morse key. Sent "CQ" for "keying," nice easy pattern to beat
of characters already memorized before service. Maybe 20 Watts
RF output. Measure frequency with BC-221. Adjust crystal
oscillator for exact frequency and see range of adjustment
possible (not much). Satisfaction on getting very close to
"on frequency." [not on ham band frequency but still legal
for Signal School]

53 years later the boat anchor afficionados are still "peaking
the grid, dipping the plate" on their glow-in-the-dark PAs.
Ho hum. No big change.

Improvement: Modern luggage much, much better. Easy
handling, better packing.

Let's give it a go.

Good luck on your new whatever. :-)

Now-a-days, hookup mosfet 1KW amp with 2-50 Mhz coverage to BIG discone
ant, hookup 2-50 freeband transceiver, adjust L-Match as needed....
GO!!!!

John
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From: "Jim Hampton" on Sun 5 Jun 2005 06:01


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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Tell ya what, if Lennie comes up on frequency on CW, I'm gonna quit
right
then and there!

Start packing. Pick up last check in Accounting Department.

Fort Monmouth, NJ, a June afternoon in 1952, basic radio skills
for Microwave Radio Relay MOS at the Signal School in a general
purpose school building: Small 6AG7-6L6 MOPA transmitter on
about 7.5 MHz, crystal controlled, CW only with a "straight key."
Measure RF power into "dummy load" (light bulb), then connect
to wire antenna and "load up," see difference in meter readings,
hear keying from instructor's simple five-tube receiver. Hear
instructor cuss out one for "sending nasty words on-air" with
morse key. Sent "CQ" for "keying," nice easy pattern to beat
of characters already memorized before service. Maybe 20 Watts
RF output. Measure frequency with BC-221. Adjust crystal
oscillator for exact frequency and see range of adjustment
possible (not much). Satisfaction on getting very close to
"on frequency." [not on ham band frequency but still legal
for Signal School]

53 years later the boat anchor afficionados are still "peaking
the grid, dipping the plate" on their glow-in-the-dark PAs.
Ho hum. No big change.

Improvement: Modern luggage much, much better. Easy
handling, better packing.

Let's give it a go.

Good luck on your new whatever. :-)

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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Dan's point of a 1X3 being an indicator of an old timer does not hold
water.

Definitely not. Many holders of 1x3 calls got their licenses in the
1990s
and many new licenses today are getting 1x3 calls through the vanity
system since there are none available for sequential issue. However if
one looks only at the sequentially issued calls, the Ws are older than
the
Ks which in turn are older than the Ns.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I think you are trying to be a devils advocate here Dee. You should know
I
was refering to the time before incentive licensing. If you don't...you
do
now. So my comments are valid and correct.

Dan/W4NTI



Hello, Dan

That you may also have mis-read what I was saying. Before vanity calls
(incentive licensing was in the 1960s), you could be certain of an old timer
by the callsign. You could not be positive of a newer type call because if
you changed radio districts, you were issued a new sequentially assigned
call.

This is why Wayne Greene operated as W2NSD/1 for years. I don't know if he
owned or licensed real estate in New York to keep the W2NSD call, but
finally was able to keep it for his new QTH.

W2NSD is quite some time after a 1X2 call and Wayne goes back a *lot* of
years. He got his 50th (or was it more than 50?) year membership pin from
the ARRL back quite some time ago. I subscribed to 73 about 10 years ago,
so it may have been in that time frame. Assuming he did not get his license
at the age of two or three, plus quite a few years between the 1X2s and
W2NSD, I would suspect most of the original 1X1s are long SK. I suspect a
fair number of the original 1X3s are also gone. Perhaps not the majority,
but a fair number.

I make this statement only by personally knowing some of them and having an
idea of their age. The ones I knew are all SK.

Ooops. I do know a 1X2. He was WA2SEY and obtained a 1X2 via the vanity
call system. The only one I know is through the vanity call system. Ooops,
wait. I've heard a couple on the air locally. All vanity call signs.

Going through posts in one group, I've seen a lot of folks grabbing the 1X3s
via the vanity call system.

Due to personal experience, I suspect that a fair number of 1X3s are vanity
issue and am convinced that most, if not all, of the 1X2s are vanity issues.

Certainly, there are still a large number of 1X3s still around with a
non-vanity issued call. However, I suspect that in the 2nd district, these
would have run out sometime around 1959 or 1960. This sets a lower limit on
age of around 50. This would be for a child who obtained his or her ticket
just before they started with the WA prefixes here. Someone obtaining their
ticket then as a teenager should be around 60. You don't have to go too far
back through the K2XXX to approach W2XXX and now you're likely looking at
someone 80 years old or more. There were fewer amateurs then and callsigns
weren't issued at the machine-gun rate they were some decades later.

I mentioned K2BRE. Were he still alive, he would be in his mid to upper
80s. And that is still after the W2XXX calls. You expect me to believe
most of the 1X3s are 80 years old and older?

How many hams are around that are 90 years old?

This is why I suspect a fair number of the 1X3s are vanity calls. Of
course, other radio districts may not need go back nearly as many years to
achieve the 1X3s.

My first post was to point out that the WA and WB prefixes indicate folks
that are approaching 60 years old. I doubt any were obtained via vanity
calls. So, I suspect these folks have been licensed well over 40 years. I
cannot assume that with a 1X2 or 1X3.

Oh, I almost forgot W2OY. He's been SK for many years now, but other lids
have jumped right in to fill the gap.

Jim:

The Wayne Green? The one who was even thrown off the Art Bell show for
being such a shill con-artist? Wow, you live-ya learn...

John

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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Dan's point of a 1X3 being an indicator of an old timer does not
hold
water.

Definitely not. Many holders of 1x3 calls got their licenses in
the
1990s
and many new licenses today are getting 1x3 calls through the
vanity
system since there are none available for sequential issue.
However if
one looks only at the sequentially issued calls, the Ws are older
than
the
Ks which in turn are older than the Ns.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I think you are trying to be a devils advocate here Dee. You should
know
I
was refering to the time before incentive licensing. If you
don't...you
do
now. So my comments are valid and correct.

Dan/W4NTI



Hello, Dan

That you may also have mis-read what I was saying. Before vanity
calls
(incentive licensing was in the 1960s), you could be certain of an old
timer
by the callsign. You could not be positive of a newer type call
because if
you changed radio districts, you were issued a new sequentially
assigned
call.

This is why Wayne Greene operated as W2NSD/1 for years. I don't know
if he
owned or licensed real estate in New York to keep the W2NSD call, but
finally was able to keep it for his new QTH.

W2NSD is quite some time after a 1X2 call and Wayne goes back a *lot*
of
years. He got his 50th (or was it more than 50?) year membership pin
from
the ARRL back quite some time ago. I subscribed to 73 about 10 years
ago,
so it may have been in that time frame. Assuming he did not get his
license
at the age of two or three, plus quite a few years between the 1X2s
and
W2NSD, I would suspect most of the original 1X1s are long SK. I
suspect a
fair number of the original 1X3s are also gone. Perhaps not the
majority,
but a fair number.

I make this statement only by personally knowing some of them and
having an
idea of their age. The ones I knew are all SK.

Ooops. I do know a 1X2. He was WA2SEY and obtained a 1X2 via the
vanity
call system. The only one I know is through the vanity call system.
Ooops,
wait. I've heard a couple on the air locally. All vanity call signs.

Going through posts in one group, I've seen a lot of folks grabbing
the 1X3s
via the vanity call system.

Due to personal experience, I suspect that a fair number of 1X3s are
vanity
issue and am convinced that most, if not all, of the 1X2s are vanity
issues.

Certainly, there are still a large number of 1X3s still around with a
non-vanity issued call. However, I suspect that in the 2nd district,
these
would have run out sometime around 1959 or 1960. This sets a lower
limit on
age of around 50. This would be for a child who obtained his or her
ticket
just before they started with the WA prefixes here. Someone obtaining
their
ticket then as a teenager should be around 60. You don't have to go
too far
back through the K2XXX to approach W2XXX and now you're likely looking
at
someone 80 years old or more. There were fewer amateurs then and
callsigns
weren't issued at the machine-gun rate they were some decades later.

I mentioned K2BRE. Were he still alive, he would be in his mid to
upper
80s. And that is still after the W2XXX calls. You expect me to
believe
most of the 1X3s are 80 years old and older?

How many hams are around that are 90 years old?

This is why I suspect a fair number of the 1X3s are vanity calls. Of
course, other radio districts may not need go back nearly as many
years to
achieve the 1X3s.

My first post was to point out that the WA and WB prefixes indicate
folks
that are approaching 60 years old. I doubt any were obtained via
vanity
calls. So, I suspect these folks have been licensed well over 40
years. I
cannot assume that with a 1X2 or 1X3.

Oh, I almost forgot W2OY. He's been SK for many years now, but other
lids
have jumped right in to fill the gap.

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
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But there are too many no code tech's that get a vanity call now adays.

Which totally sucks. The FCC at ONE TIME wanted distintive callsigns
for
class of license. Now it is too much work to bother with. What a joke
they are.


They are still limited to getting a call that is limited by their license
class. Technicians were assigned 1x3 calls until the sequentially
available
1x3 calls ran out. That some now choose to get a 1x3 vanity only means
that
they are getting a call that they are entitled to by license class.


As a matter of fact the FCC once considered the W/K prefix "prefered
calls". And at one time the FCC required you to change your call if
you
permanetly moved to another district. And in deference to the
W/K....if
you had one they would issue another from the prefered block.

Which is how I got my present call (W4NTI) because I used to have
K8BHH.
Course that all went to crap with the alphabet soup system of today.

There's an Extra near here that still has his K8*** call, he was a tech
until the early nineties and upgraded to Extra when it was still 20
wpm.

So what? having a old K8 means he has a original issue K8 call. You
don't seem to comprehend that what was this and what is now ain't no
where
near the same. All there was back then was W and K calls, followed by
WA, WB, WD, then a re-issue for a while, then the alphabet soup we
have
today.


The FCC could have issued N calls back then if they had wanted to. The
block was assigned to the US.

There's no "alphabet soup" crap today. The call sign eligibility is the
same as it has been since they initiated the 5 level license class decades
ago. We have the same call sign eligibility today as then. The problem
is
that a lot of call signs have been "used" and so they went to the next
available block. Ws were used first, then Ks, and then Ns and then As.

Today no call district has 1x3s available for sequential issue (except
perhaps for some of the special territories). In addition 1x2s and 2x1s
are
no long available for sequential issue. Why? They have all been issued.
The only available ones are those that have been returned to the pool by
lack of renewal by the licensee for whatever reason. It will not be long
now before the last block of Extra class call signs (2x2 beginning with
AA -
AL) is used up in the sequential system. The only reason it hasn't is
that
a lot of people are keeping their old call signs instead of getting new
ones
when they upgrade.

If someone comes into a license session today with no license and passes
the
code, Tech written and General written all in one sitting, he/she will
receive a 2x3 call. Yes even a General will receive a 2x3 if it is a new
issue. To get a call "reflecting his class", means that the new General
has
to search for vacated calls and find one available and get it as a vanity.

I kept my original call sign when I upgraded to advanced and then extra as
there were no 1x2s left in my call district. I didn't like the 2x1s or
the
2x2s.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Hello, Dee

I agree; I don't care for the 2X1s nor the 2X2s. That said, I wasn't going
to pay money to get the WB2 call back and the N2JH was taken via the vanity
system. There was a brief period when extras were allowed to select a call
in the N series and I took that after leaving Pennsylvania as WA3RJX.

My point continues to be that you can only make assumptions on the WA and WB
prefixes. New calls will likely be a 2X3, but after WA and WB. No one
would pay for them and they are likely all licensed over 40 years.

Which came first, WA2SEY or W2AV? Well, WA2SEY took advantage of the vanity
system and is now W2AV. So that one is a push, except that WA2SEY has been
vacated.

Dontcha just love the alphabet soup? Perhaps we could all get a w, k, n, or
a prefix depending upon class licensed followed by the numbers indicating
the first license issue date, followed by three letters. Since I doubt
enough folks would get their license on the same day in the same radio
district to overflow the last 3 letters, it would leave room for vanity by
choosing your initials.

I can see it now - de W050262JRH K

LOL.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

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You are right, when the Ws were exhausted, they ran through the Ks.
Then
they started with WA and so on. The N prefix became available in the
very
late 60s or very early 70s. WA and WB predate the N prefix.

I don't know about all area's but I can say this, for the 8th
district...circa summer of 1961 they did indeed re-issue K calls. I
received KN8BHH, my friend received KN8BBL, another friend received
KN8DEN,
etc. however just a month or so later another group of buds received WN8
which turned into WA8 calls. Go figure.


Still haven't heard from Dan. Perhaps we could sked for a nice chat -
as
long as he can put up with a "newbie". Better keep it slow, say 30
words
per minute cw with no automated copy devices. I suppose if he pushes
me,
I
might consider 40. Not much more, however; I'm not up to that stuff
anymore. Of course, if push came to shove .... I might be willing to
give
the high-speed stuff a crack, but don't expect much from a former WN
prefix.

If he *really* wants to push the envelope, I'd be willing to take a
week
and
meet him using American Land-Line Morse. Should be good for a hoot.
No
more than 16, however, as I'd be using a mental look-up table. Not
enough
call for land-line Morse to make it worthwhile to get good at it. I
only
used it once in 1968. Of course, I hadn't copied Morse since 1969 when
I
retook the extra in 1993 .... at 20 words per minute ....


Haven't heard from me? This is the first time I saw this. Sure I'll
sked
ya. I'm on 3.575 every evening at 1900CST, that would be 2000Z. On
Sundays I am net control (local time).

I have not used the railroad code in 40 years, so I'll pass on that one.

The only thing that is automatic in my cw is my ability to copy. Should
still do well at 50 or so. If not we qrs.

Send me a e-mail and follow my SPAM catchers instructions. I don't give
a
rip who believe me here.

Dan/W4NTI




Hello, Dan

Should be fun. I could well loose, who knows? But I'll tell you what, I
hope both of us learn a bit of respect for each other. I honestly don't
know how well I'll do much past 40 as it has been quite a few years - but
I'm willing to give it a try. I will get your addy minus the spam catcher
and explain further.

Hang on to your shorts, it might be a bumpy ride LOL

Seriously, Dan, I hope we can end this one on a friendly note. I get
upset
sometimes with some of the threads. I bear no ill will against newcomers
nor old timers. I do hope you read what I stated concerning the 1X3 and
1X2
call signs. I was being honest there.


Must have missed that.

In any case, I'll be in touch. Wanna bet that we'll hear from Len on this
one? A beer? LOL

Only if he has a code reader on his computer and sound card interface... hi.

BTW, you are right about the KN prefixes. Those became the KX3 calls. At
the time, however, New York was the most populus state and the 2 district
was into the WB2 calls. I've still got my original novice license issued
in
1962 as WN2CJV which would have become a WB2 call. I'm willing to try and
take a digital photo of it and send it to you if you wish.

No need....I have my very first license in a file. KN8BHH, issued summer of
1961.
In fact this month (June).

There are
differences between districts. And I still abide by my thoughts that the
average WA or WB has been licensed longer than the average 1X2 or 1X3 call
simply because of the FCC and its' vanity call sign program.

Your probably right Jim, now a days having a pre vanity 1X2 or 1X3 means
nothing
because every one assumes you paid for it.


All other stuff aside, when did you use land-line?
Just before I went off to the military in 64. Was just getting into it, and
dropped out for many years. Haven't done it since.

How long have you been
licensed?
As stated above, got my first ticket in summer of 61, got the general 3
months
later. Went off to the military and after traveling around Asia and Europe.
I operated
from Thailand and not quite legally from Vietnam, and of course out of
Europe in
the 70s. I took my Advanced test in mid 70s while stationed at Ft.
McClellan, got
that in Atlanta. Then went back to Germany and took my Extra there at
Ramstein
Air Base. This was when the FCC was sending teams out to do that. Amazing.

I am not trying to say I'm a real old-timer; I'm not. I am
simply making the argument that due to the vanity call sign program, a
lot,
if not most, of the 1X2 and 1X3 calls are vanity calls.

You were licensed 43 years ago. Thats a old timer. Most of those older are
dead. Boy thats a cheery thought.

I agree about the call sign situation. W4XYZ licensed in 2001? What a
deal.

I also was WA3RJX
some 6 years *after* being WB2OSP. It is a matter of the call district.
If
you move, you loose (at least back in the days). I was N2JH in the early
70s, given the time to renew one's license, that was some 10 years and
more
after the WN2CJV (or even the WB2OSP) ticket.

As a Novice and new General I worked so many WN, WA,WB2's I thought that
is all there was on 40cw.

I dropped my K8 call in the mid 70s. When I decided I was going to stay
here in
Bama after I got out in 79. So I had to change my callsign due to the move.


Heck, maybe after we get a time and frequency (and the 4 call district
might
be tough except for 40 meters), perhaps we can get a few others on the
frequency.

Fine by me.
I'd almost bet that Hans could wipe us both out ... but we can see ....

I don't know....I know I have worked him several times on SSB in a contest.
Don't remember if I did in CW or not.

Tell ya what, if Lennie comes up on frequency on CW, I'm gonna quit right
then and there!

Let's give it a go.



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



Dan/W4NTI

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

Oh, I almost forgot W2OY. He's been SK for many years now, but other lids
have jumped right in to fill the gap.

I remember his well. In fact I was insulted by him several times on 75 when
he slapped me around for having a K8 call.....hi.

Didn't a club pick up his call?

Dan/W4NTI