Yes, that is correct... and probaby only 1/5 of THOSE 4/5 will bother
with the ARRL...

John

"KØHB" wrote in message
news

wrote


Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams
actually got on the air?


Dammit Len, your reading comprehension really is badly deteriorated.
See a specialist quickly.

What Haynie said was that the survey revealed that "more than
one-fifth of new amateur licensees never get on the air."

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB
--
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb

John Smith wrote:
Probably the least thing I have done in life is to get a ham license...
except for a few locals on 10 meters here, there is little left for
me... well, the aussies and brits still have some interesting folks to
chat with...

John

Then why don't you turn in your license, get out of ham radio and then
there will be one less 'old fart' that you despise so much killing off
ham radio.

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful
hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the
extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and
modem...

John


Hello, John

There are more than a few folks that can send and receive cw faster than a
lot of folks can type. I am not talking 20 words per minute here, nor am I
talking a leisurely 30 words per minute.

Of course, cut and paste doesn't count (and I've had a few college grads
tell me that is how they did some of "their" papers LOL. Future CEOs, I'm
sure. Enron and the like).

I'd be interested in an SSB contact on 24 GHz via moonbounce. 85 watts.
That might prove interesting.

All said and done, there are modes that can do it better (PSK comes to
mind) - but most won't and cw is one that can. It doesn't mean it is the
best, but ... again ... there are a number of ops that can send and receive
cw faster than a lot of folks can type. And if some enjoy it, why worry?
It is like arguing that country-western music is terrible. Not all would
agree.

May I assume that you cut and paste very quickly?


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

From: "John Smith" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 17:21

Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers
are in good and technical company...

Not "all." :-)

Having a Tech license is part of their JOB. The JOB is
basically PR work, keeping civilians feeling good about
NASA (which needs all the public support it can get).

Astronauts have all the NASA comms they need, don't need
any ham bands via HTs to do their primary mission. :-)

I don't think there is a ham alive which can beat my keyboard, hooked to
a "electronic key" and sending morse, nor my sound card doubling as a
"code reader" and producing text on screen from cw...
You mean to tell me people actually use "real keys" still--gawd, I
thought all those sk tongue-in-cheek

Warmest regards,
John
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants
and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful
hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the
extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone
and
modem...

John


Hello, John

There are more than a few folks that can send and receive cw faster
than a
lot of folks can type. I am not talking 20 words per minute here, nor
am I
talking a leisurely 30 words per minute.

Of course, cut and paste doesn't count (and I've had a few college
grads
tell me that is how they did some of "their" papers LOL. Future CEOs,
I'm
sure. Enron and the like).

I'd be interested in an SSB contact on 24 GHz via moonbounce. 85
watts.
That might prove interesting.

All said and done, there are modes that can do it better (PSK comes to
mind) - but most won't and cw is one that can. It doesn't mean it is
the
best, but ... again ... there are a number of ops that can send and
receive
cw faster than a lot of folks can type. And if some enjoy it, why
worry?
It is like arguing that country-western music is terrible. Not all
would
agree.

May I assume that you cut and paste very quickly?


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

From: bb on Jun 8, 7:33 pm

John Smith wrote:
You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these guys--times
must be tough...
http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1

John
--
Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right
before my eyes--in real time!
Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing?

Sounds like he's been talking to Len. Refreshing.

Sorry, the last time Jim Haynie and I "talked" (via e-mail)
was over three years ago. Haynie struck up the convo then,
not me.

I meant the astronauts "with" licenses... the ones who put on a good
show chatting with hams for the media...

Warmest regards,
John
wrote in message
oups.com...
From: "John Smith" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 17:21

Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers
are in good and technical company...

Not "all." :-)

Having a Tech license is part of their JOB. The JOB is
basically PR work, keeping civilians feeling good about
NASA (which needs all the public support it can get).

Astronauts have all the NASA comms they need, don't need
any ham bands via HTs to do their primary mission. :-)

From: John Smith on Jun 8, 10:16 pm

Yes, that is correct... and probaby only 1/5 of THOSE 4/5 will bother
with the ARRL...

John

John, Hans just doesn't understand. When he gets like that
he is extremely touchy-grouchy.

Regardless, the League still doesn't have but about 1 out of
every 5 U.S. amateur radio licensees as members. The League
can't seem to "raise" that much. A couple years ago they
got to about 23%, then it fell off.


"K0HB" wrote in message
news

wrote

Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams
actually got on the air?

Dammit Len, your reading comprehension really is badly deteriorated.
See a specialist quickly.

Tsk, tsk, master super chief of all. Didn't you notice a
little QUESTION MARK I put at the end of my sentence?
You quoted it and STILL didn't see it! YOUR problem, not
mine. Read it again and RECOGNIZE the punctuation.

Sigh.

What Haynie said was that the survey revealed that "more than
one-fifth of new amateur licensees never get on the air."

Go uncork a fifth and go for stupor-ville, mighty super
master chief. You will feel better...but not in the morning.

Good luck on this one, now...

John Smith wrote:
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful
hams...

"Vital and youthful hams", "old men", "rants"--I'm writing you off as
just another troll, "John".

Dave K8MN

Well, I will be there standing beside Haynie!!!

John

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
ink.net...
John Smith wrote:
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants
and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and
youthful hams...

"Vital and youthful hams", "old men", "rants"--I'm writing you off as
just another troll, "John".

Dave K8MN