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June 28th 05, 04:08 AM
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June 28th 05, 04:35 AM
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Leo wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 15:37:43 -0700, "bb" wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote: What's your suggestion? The way I see it, you have two options: 1. Continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. 2. Do not continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings.... Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1 - it requires the intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait, and considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond, even when you know you are in the right. Owned or free. The path you choose will be entirely up to you. Choose wisely! 73 de Jim, N2EY 73, Leo Grasshopper, snatch this pebble from my hand. Ah - the journey of 1,000 miles begins with but a single step. He must decide. 73, Leo Nevermind the journey. It's probably time to hear again about the exploits of amateur radio during WWII. |
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#244
June 28th 05, 07:12 AM
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From: Leo on Jun 27, 9:52 pm
On 27 Jun 2005 16:02:31 -0700, wrote: From: Leo on Mon 27 Jun 2005 07:19 On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote: The following cantu-respondu is repeated 14 times, more or less the same Thank God for copy-and-paste - I'd never have made it!  Tsk, his "answers" were little better than cut-and-paste. :-( What would you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? In a word: No. It's not rather obvious, Leo. Sorry to hear that, Jim. How simplified do you need things to be? Based on years of trying to play the Olde Guru of Amateur Radio in here, he simply wants things HIS WAY. He was that way on an AOL amateur radio group, too. BTW - are there archives of those discussions on the Net anywhere? Might make interesting reading..... I seriously doubt it would be "interesting." It was just "ARRL south" parrot phrases. AOL did not have a large ham radio group. If it was archived, it would be on AOL (which I can access) but it was the same old stuff as in here. Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings.... He will do it again (and did) following. Predictable. :-) We'll soon see - he might surprise us! I wouldn't put any serious money on that... Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1 - it requires the intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait, and considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond, even when you know you are in the right. Owned or free. The path you choose will be entirely up to you. Choose wisely! He hasn't, but then HE MUST BE *RIGHT* in whatever he sayeth. He might! We'll all know soon enough...... Usual tactic is to jump off into a NEW preaching subject, this week it is "Riley Hollingsworth Speaks!" Looks rather like a Sermon on the Antenna Mount first draft... along with a segue into U.S. ham radio a la 1912. :-( All who speak contrary to His wisdom are WRRRONNNNGGGG. The bells have been ringing in here with the above for years. Watch the replies to his "Riley" encyclical. :-) Heh. I'm watching 'er grow day by day......... Ding Dong School is in session. Sheesh. |
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#245
June 28th 05, 07:48 PM
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From: on Mon 27 Jun 2005 19:12
Leo wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote: What would you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? not to those who cannot see What do you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? billboard displays too small What do you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? we try for Mt. Rushmore size What do you suggest I do instead? Isn't that rather obvious? maybe do some crop circles What do you suggest I do instead? Isn't that rather obvious? two-page ads in QST? Then what do you suggest I do? Isn't that rather obvious? new reading glasses might help What do you suggest I do instead? Isn't that rather obvious? we send obvious in morse? What do you suggest I do? Isn't that rather obvious? yawn What would you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz What do you suggest I do, Leo? Isn't that rather obvious? ... What do you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? still at it? What do you suggest I do differently, Leo? Isn't that rather obvious? yup, drain is still clogged And your suggestion is? Isn't that rather obvious? call Roto-Rooter! What do you suggest I do differently, Leo? Isn't that rather obvious? use Bangalore Torpedo? In a word: No. It's not rather obvious, Leo. excavate, dump in lye, cover... Sorry to hear that, Jim. How simplified do you need things to be? It's not about simplification, Leo. It's about clarity. Why can't you just clearly and plainly state what you suggest that I do? I have - many, many times. You just keep writing that I must decide. But you do not state concrete actions that the decision will produce. Give up eating those crackers, polly. You get repetitious. Makes your cage all crumby. You must decide. Why? Tsk, tsk, all you're doing in here is "busy work" writing many words (over and over again) without doing any deciding. :-) Decide, decide, that is not the question. - Ham-let What *do* you suggest? Just speak plainly rather than answering a question with another question, or a zinger. What's your suggestion? The way I see it, you have two options: 1. Continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. 2. Do not continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. OK so far. Glad to hear it! So far, so good. Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings.... That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you suggest *I* take. That is your current reality. That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-) Tsk. Only Jimmie speak "truth," "facts" from QTH on Mount Olympus...while he make babble, babble like motel proprietor in "Psycho." He parent too many children... Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1 For you, maybe. Tsk, be a MAN and admit defeat. You've LOST these rounds a few go-arounds ago. - it requires the intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait, and considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond, even when you know you are in the right. You're begging the question, Leo. Tsk, tsk. YOU were begging for solutions before, now you can't implement any? Not MANLY! NO decision! This is your potential future reality. So what do you suggest *I* do? Decide! Actions, Leo. Decide for YOURSELF. If you cannot, quit. Simple. Owned or free. That's your spin. That's your opinion. Fact. No, just your opinion. Owned - or free. You must decide. Why? Grasshopper doesn't understand the world does not revolve around him. Tsk. The path you choose will be entirely up to you. So there *is* a choice! There is always a choice. Odd to hear from someone who told me I could not stop myself. You can't. You feel obsessed, compelled to continue deep denial of anything wrong. Yours to make if your are able to do so, Ah - now there's a condition! You have a "condition," and that is true. :-) You must decide! Why? Only YOU can stop yourself before it is too late. Choose wisely! Wise by whose standards? We'll all see the answer to that one soon enough - when you decide! How will you know what is decided? "Wise we are," said Yoda, "Know we will when comes the time." How would such a choice be demonstrated in concrete, practical terms? Hmmm - you read the two options, right? Just can't make yourself spell them out, I see. They were all spelled out. In English. English English. What actions do you suggest? Decide! Only you can make this decision - you're on your own now. You have not offered the requested information. Seems to me that when you speak of "abuse" and "control" and "goading", you're really talking about yourself, not Len. Or perhaps you and he are one and the same. We are all AI constructs living in your computer, out to do you harm in public. All we are the same. Good luck! Be seeing you. "Worry not," said Yoda, "'Decisions for Dummies' mailed it will be to you, plain brown wrapper in." May the Farce be with you, grasshopper. |
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#246
June 28th 05, 07:50 PM
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From: Leo on Mon 27 Jun 2005 21:52
On 27 Jun 2005 15:37:43 -0700, "bb" wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote: What's your suggestion? The way I see it, you have two options: 1. Continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. 2. Do not continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings.... Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1 - it requires the intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait, and considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond, even when you know you are in the right. Owned or free. The path you choose will be entirely up to you. Choose wisely! Grasshopper, snatch this pebble from my hand. Ah - the journey of 1,000 miles begins with but a single step. He must decide. Why? :-) |
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#247
June 28th 05, 10:15 PM
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You must decide! Why? You decide everytime you post, you can't avoid it Choose wisely! Wise by whose standards? We'll all see the answer to that one soon enough - when you decide! How will you know what is decided? He may not, nor is it required that he does, How would such a choice be demonstrated in concrete, practical terms? Hmmm - you read the two options, right? Just can't make yourself spell them out, I see. He has What actions do you suggest? Decide! Only you can make this decision - you're on your own now. You have not offered the requested information. Seems to me that when you speak of "abuse" and "control" and "goading", you're really talking about yourself, not Len. He is not required to indeed he lacks the information you require only you have it within yourself Or perhaps you and he are one and the same. Good luck! Be seeing you. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#248
June 29th 05, 04:24 AM
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On 28 Jun 2005 10:48:49 -0700, wrote:
From: on Mon 27 Jun 2005 19:12 Leo wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote: What would you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? not to those who cannot see What do you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? billboard displays too small What do you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? we try for Mt. Rushmore size What do you suggest I do instead? Isn't that rather obvious? maybe do some crop circles What do you suggest I do instead? Isn't that rather obvious? two-page ads in QST? Then what do you suggest I do? Isn't that rather obvious? new reading glasses might help What do you suggest I do instead? Isn't that rather obvious? we send obvious in morse? What do you suggest I do? Isn't that rather obvious? yawn What would you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz What do you suggest I do, Leo? Isn't that rather obvious? ... What do you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? still at it? What do you suggest I do differently, Leo? Isn't that rather obvious? yup, drain is still clogged And your suggestion is? Isn't that rather obvious? call Roto-Rooter! What do you suggest I do differently, Leo? Isn't that rather obvious? use Bangalore Torpedo? In a word: No. It's not rather obvious, Leo. excavate, dump in lye, cover... Sorry to hear that, Jim. How simplified do you need things to be? It's not about simplification, Leo. It's about clarity. Why can't you just clearly and plainly state what you suggest that I do? I have - many, many times. You just keep writing that I must decide. But you do not state concrete actions that the decision will produce. Give up eating those crackers, polly. You get repetitious. Makes your cage all crumby. You must decide. Why? Tsk, tsk, all you're doing in here is "busy work" writing many words (over and over again) without doing any deciding. :-) Decide, decide, that is not the question. - Ham-let What *do* you suggest? Just speak plainly rather than answering a question with another question, or a zinger. What's your suggestion? The way I see it, you have two options: 1. Continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. 2. Do not continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. OK so far. Glad to hear it! So far, so good. Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings.... That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you suggest *I* take. That is your current reality. That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-) Tsk. Only Jimmie speak "truth," "facts" from QTH on Mount Olympus...while he make babble, babble like motel proprietor in "Psycho." He parent too many children... Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1 For you, maybe. Tsk, be a MAN and admit defeat. You've LOST these rounds a few go-arounds ago. - it requires the intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait, and considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond, even when you know you are in the right. You're begging the question, Leo. Tsk, tsk. YOU were begging for solutions before, now you can't implement any? Not MANLY! NO decision! This is your potential future reality. So what do you suggest *I* do? Decide! Actions, Leo. Decide for YOURSELF. If you cannot, quit. Simple. Owned or free. That's your spin. That's your opinion. Fact. No, just your opinion. Owned - or free. You must decide. Why? Grasshopper doesn't understand the world does not revolve around him. Tsk. The path you choose will be entirely up to you. So there *is* a choice! There is always a choice. Odd to hear from someone who told me I could not stop myself. You can't. You feel obsessed, compelled to continue deep denial of anything wrong. Yours to make if your are able to do so, Ah - now there's a condition! You have a "condition," and that is true. :-) You must decide! Why? Only YOU can stop yourself before it is too late. Choose wisely! Wise by whose standards? We'll all see the answer to that one soon enough - when you decide! How will you know what is decided? "Wise we are," said Yoda, "Know we will when comes the time." How would such a choice be demonstrated in concrete, practical terms? Hmmm - you read the two options, right? Just can't make yourself spell them out, I see. They were all spelled out. In English. English English. What actions do you suggest? Decide! Only you can make this decision - you're on your own now. You have not offered the requested information. Seems to me that when you speak of "abuse" and "control" and "goading", you're really talking about yourself, not Len. Or perhaps you and he are one and the same. We are all AI constructs living in your computer, out to do you harm in public. All we are the same. Good luck! Be seeing you. "Worry not," said Yoda, "'Decisions for Dummies' mailed it will be to you, plain brown wrapper in." May the Farce be with you, grasshopper. He must decide. Owned - or free! 73, Leo |
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#249
June 29th 05, 04:30 AM
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On 28 Jun 2005 10:50:28 -0700, wrote:
From: Leo on Mon 27 Jun 2005 21:52 On 27 Jun 2005 15:37:43 -0700, "bb" wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote: What's your suggestion? The way I see it, you have two options: 1. Continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. 2. Do not continue to be suckered in to foolish arguments. Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings.... Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1 - it requires the intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait, and considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond, even when you know you are in the right. Owned or free. The path you choose will be entirely up to you. Choose wisely! Grasshopper, snatch this pebble from my hand. Ah - the journey of 1,000 miles begins with but a single step. He must decide. Why? :-) Et tu, Brute? He must decide. Owned - or free. In the words of the immortal Caine (in the spirit of the many Kung Fu references of late...) "If a man sees a wrong and does nothing, how can he still call himself a man?" ;o) 73, Leo |
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#250
June 29th 05, 04:34 AM
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On 27 Jun 2005 22:12:03 -0700, wrote:
From: Leo on Jun 27, 9:52 pm On 27 Jun 2005 16:02:31 -0700, wrote: From: Leo on Mon 27 Jun 2005 07:19 On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote: Leo wrote: On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote: The following cantu-respondu is repeated 14 times, more or less the same Thank God for copy-and-paste - I'd never have made it! Tsk, his "answers" were little better than cut-and-paste. :-( True - much dogma and little substance. This may change! What would you suggest? Isn't that rather obvious? In a word: No. It's not rather obvious, Leo. Sorry to hear that, Jim. How simplified do you need things to be? Based on years of trying to play the Olde Guru of Amateur Radio in here, he simply wants things HIS WAY. He was that way on an AOL amateur radio group, too. BTW - are there archives of those discussions on the Net anywhere? Might make interesting reading..... I seriously doubt it would be "interesting." It was just "ARRL south" parrot phrases. AOL did not have a large ham radio group. If it was archived, it would be on AOL (which I can access) but it was the same old stuff as in here. God forbid..... Option 1 is expensive - you become a possession of those who goad you in to responding. A puppet, as it were, dancing at the end of someone's strings.... He will do it again (and did) following. Predictable. :-) We'll soon see - he might surprise us! I wouldn't put any serious money on that... Heh... Option 2 is much more difficult than Option 1 - it requires the intelligence to recognize a legitimate argument from bait, and considerable inner strength to resist the drive to respond, even when you know you are in the right. Owned or free. The path you choose will be entirely up to you. Choose wisely! He hasn't, but then HE MUST BE *RIGHT* in whatever he sayeth. He might! We'll all know soon enough...... Usual tactic is to jump off into a NEW preaching subject, this week it is "Riley Hollingsworth Speaks!" Looks rather like a Sermon on the Antenna Mount first draft... along with a segue into U.S. ham radio a la 1912. :-( True enough. But this may change. He will decide.....soon. All who speak contrary to His wisdom are WRRRONNNNGGGG. The bells have been ringing in here with the above for years. Watch the replies to his "Riley" encyclical. :-) Heh. I'm watching 'er grow day by day......... Ding Dong School is in session. Sheesh. Heh heh heh... 73, Leo |
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