From: Leo on Jun 29, 10:11 pm

On 29 Jun 2005 16:51:34 -0700, wrote:


Tsk, Jimmie will not do the "action." He will stay on his subject
and his "correctness" until the coroner pries the keyboard away
from his cold, dead fingers...

So far - right you are!

But - There's Still Hope.

Bob is gone. But there's a nice airport with his name on it just
five minutes away by car from here...


If a tree falls on a florist, will he make himself a bouquet? :-)

Hmmm - lemme think about that one a spell.....

Sorry about that, I had a newly-ground axe that needed testing.


Please try to stay focussed.

Everything is not about Len.

[oh, heck and darn! :-) ]

I know....but there has to be room for other things in the guy's life
too!

Like radio - and TV, and research, and history....

...and choo-choo trains.


Long ago I removed the geas and erased the pentacle, breaking the
spell.

There's the problem, right there. You erased the pentacle?

Thanks a lot!

Sorry. It was "that old black magic has me in its spell..."


Tsk. I must have been using indelible chalk...

Irascible chalk, perhaps!

Yee-haa! "Chalk" one up for Leo! Good word! :-)



Your current situation requires a different metaphor:

"A man walking along discovers a turd in the middle of his path. What
should he do?

If he is wise, he would step around it and go along his way. But, if
he should pick it up and begin polishing it, in the expectation that
it would somehow gain value as a result of his effort, he would be
quite foolish indeed."

Polish - or Avoid.

[ahhh...the Light of Wisdom of the East dawns upon the grasshopper]

Yes - our intrepid soul may now see the light at the end of the
tunnel.

Then again - it might be a train coming.....

We'll see soon!

Metaphors be with you, Leo Skywalker!


[I should have gotten a prenup before coming in here...]

Or shots...

The whole rabies series in the abdomen?!? Yuch.


A problem with a wide-angle lens is that everything seems in
the field of view...but proper focussing requires concentration
on the center of the image. Some just don't have the single-
lens REFLEX to do it... [clik......clique]

Oh oh.

Um, there's an extra 's' in 'focusing' up there.

I just got #@$% for that - he'll be on to you shortly.....

Tsk, I know...but the choice of one or two S is optional in use
(depending on the editor).

In English, using one S would tend to have the word pronounced
"foe-cues-ed" while two S would tend to prounounce "foe-cuss-ed."
With one S it also sounds like a nastyword..."foe-cue-ess." :-)



I need a better agent. I was getting used to being at the
"center focus" of so much agitated hate. Maybe I need more
more exposure? [I was using Eastman Super-XX at ASA 400]

We'll see soon!

I doubt anything will "develop" on that...too long in the Stop
bath.

buy, buy,

Leo wrote:

At the moment, you are at a crossroads.

To be free, you must decide.

Status quo - or change.

44, Leo

As a casual observer, "Leo", it would appear that you have no free will.
You seem compelled to respond to each and every one of Jim's posts.

Dave K8MN

I thought I'd answered this one, but apparently not.

So here goes:

Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 16:10:55 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 02:34:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 19:12:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote:
You must decide!
You must decide.
You must.

You sound like the chimes of Big Ben.

You missed the reference completely, then.

You cannot answer a question with a question.

I didn't!

Heh heh heh......you have been a puppet for a long time.

Some would say since Arrival

Decide!
Break free.
Decide.

Why?

You must.

Sounds like a Hammer pounding Into an Anvil

That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you
suggest *I* take.

That is your current reality.

That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-)

Not at all.

I have decided that it is. Simple as A, B and C


There are only two choices available to you.

Says who?

There are two.

A and B. Option 1 - or Option 2.

There is no C.

There's always a C.

Not in a two variable equation.

Such as this.

Do you want me to deny the truth just to permit Living in Harmony?

Owned. Or Free.

Wimp. Or Strong.

Dit. Or Dah. (mandatory radio content hi hi)

Sounds like an order from The General..
If I respond to Len in any way, you say I have taken Option 1.
Therefore the only way to take Option 2 is for me to shut up.

Not true.

That's what it all boils down to.

All your blathering psychobabble comes down to your trying to tell me to shut up without using those words.

Not true.

Are you hoping that someone will tell you to shut up?

No.

Why?

Polish - or Avoid.

I'm not Polish.

You are polishing. Turds.

Not me!


That's what you're telling me to do.

You could just be clear about it. But that's not your way.

It cannot be simplified any further, Jim.

Sure it can: the two words "shut up"

Do you feel that this is your only logical option, then?

Is there no other way?


Owned - or Free.

Speak out - or Shut Up.

That's what it means.

Be trolled - or not.

That's what it means.

How is one different from the other?


The series "Kung Fu" was set in the American Southwest in the 1870s.

Before radio was invented.

But not before callsigns were invented!

Wow! That's one five star education yer packin there,
podner......yee haw!

Do you think callsigns were invented for radio? Think again.

Your current situation requires a different metaphor:

"A man walking along discovers a turd in the middle of his
path. What should he do?

If he is wise, he would step around it and go along his
way. But, if
he should pick it up and begin polishing it, in the
expectation that
it would somehow gain value as a result of his effort, he
would be quite foolish indeed."

Agreed!

He could also avoid the hazard, and point it out to others so
they do not trod in it.

So you're saying that the posts of Len and some others here
are turds.

I think you have a point there!

Hope springs anew!

That's why the polishing isn't going too well sometimes.

So you agree! Excellent!

Now let us consider.....

If your description of Len's posts (the product) is accurate, what does
that make the producer of said product?

That pretty much sums it up, I think.

--

Psychotics build castles in the air
Neurotics live in them
Shrinks collect the rent
-

wrote:

Do you want me to deny the truth just to permit Living in Harmony?

Holy Moly!

Jim used to alter Kim's post to live in Harmony?

Jim used to insult Len just to live in harmony?

Jim said that a Morse Code Exam would be a barrier to Morse Code use
just to live in harmony?

Jim very very surprising individual.

On 5 Jul 2005 17:44:07 -0700, wrote:

I thought I'd answered this one, but apparently not.

You still haven't, actually - 2/3 of the original post is missing....

73, Leo


So here goes:

Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 16:10:55 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 02:34:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 19:12:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote:
You must decide!
You must decide.
You must.

You sound like the chimes of Big Ben.

You missed the reference completely, then.

You cannot answer a question with a question.

I didn't!

Heh heh heh......you have been a puppet for a long time.

Some would say since Arrival

Decide!
Break free.
Decide.

Why?

You must.

Sounds like a Hammer pounding Into an Anvil

That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you
suggest *I* take.

That is your current reality.

That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-)

Not at all.

I have decided that it is. Simple as A, B and C


There are only two choices available to you.

Says who?

There are two.

A and B. Option 1 - or Option 2.

There is no C.

There's always a C.

Not in a two variable equation.

Such as this.

Do you want me to deny the truth just to permit Living in Harmony?

Owned. Or Free.

Wimp. Or Strong.

Dit. Or Dah. (mandatory radio content hi hi)

Sounds like an order from The General..
If I respond to Len in any way, you say I have taken Option 1.
Therefore the only way to take Option 2 is for me to shut up.

Not true.

That's what it all boils down to.

All your blathering psychobabble comes down to your trying to tell me to shut up without using those words.

Not true.

Are you hoping that someone will tell you to shut up?

No.

Why?

Polish - or Avoid.

I'm not Polish.

You are polishing. Turds.

Not me!


That's what you're telling me to do.

You could just be clear about it. But that's not your way.

It cannot be simplified any further, Jim.

Sure it can: the two words "shut up"

Do you feel that this is your only logical option, then?

Is there no other way?


Owned - or Free.

Speak out - or Shut Up.

That's what it means.

Be trolled - or not.

That's what it means.

How is one different from the other?


The series "Kung Fu" was set in the American Southwest in the 1870s.

Before radio was invented.

But not before callsigns were invented!

Wow! That's one five star education yer packin there,
podner......yee haw!

Do you think callsigns were invented for radio? Think again.

Your current situation requires a different metaphor:

"A man walking along discovers a turd in the middle of his
path. What should he do?

If he is wise, he would step around it and go along his
way. But, if
he should pick it up and begin polishing it, in the
expectation that
it would somehow gain value as a result of his effort, he
would be quite foolish indeed."

Agreed!

He could also avoid the hazard, and point it out to others so
they do not trod in it.

So you're saying that the posts of Len and some others here
are turds.

I think you have a point there!

Hope springs anew!

That's why the polishing isn't going too well sometimes.

So you agree! Excellent!

Now let us consider.....

If your description of Len's posts (the product) is accurate, what does
that make the producer of said product?

That pretty much sums it up, I think.

--

Psychotics build castles in the air
Neurotics live in them
Shrinks collect the rent
-


????

Where'd the rest of it go?

Leo wrote:
On 5 Jul 2005 17:44:07 -0700, wrote:

I thought I'd answered this one, but apparently not.

You still haven't, actually - 2/3 of the original post is missing....

73, Leo

Jim ran the entire text through his DaVinci Code Reader. The part
snipped spelled out K5TIT, so he very well couldn't have quoted it.
Rest assured that the LaLeche reLay League has been informed.

Leo wrote:
On 5 Jul 2005 17:44:07 -0700, wrote:

I thought I'd answered this one, but apparently not.

You still haven't, actually - 2/3 of the original post is missing....

73, Leo


So here goes:

Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 16:10:55 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 02:34:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 19:12:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote:
You must decide!
You must decide.
You must.

You sound like the chimes of Big Ben.

You missed the reference completely, then.

You cannot answer a question with a question.

I didn't!

Heh heh heh......you have been a puppet for a long time.

Some would say since Arrival

Decide!
Break free.
Decide.

Why?

You must.

Sounds like a Hammer pounding Into an Anvil

That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you
suggest *I* take.

That is your current reality.

That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-)

Not at all.

I have decided that it is. Simple as A, B and C


There are only two choices available to you.

Says who?

There are two.

A and B. Option 1 - or Option 2.

There is no C.

There's always a C.

Not in a two variable equation.

Such as this.

Do you want me to deny the truth just to permit Living in Harmony?

Owned. Or Free.

Wimp. Or Strong.

Dit. Or Dah. (mandatory radio content hi hi)

Sounds like an order from The General..
If I respond to Len in any way, you say I have taken Option 1.
Therefore the only way to take Option 2 is for me to shut up.

Not true.

That's what it all boils down to.

All your blathering psychobabble comes down to your trying to tell me to shut up without using those words.

Not true.

Are you hoping that someone will tell you to shut up?

No.

Why?

Polish - or Avoid.

I'm not Polish.

You are polishing. Turds.

Not me!


That's what you're telling me to do.

You could just be clear about it. But that's not your way.

It cannot be simplified any further, Jim.

Sure it can: the two words "shut up"

Do you feel that this is your only logical option, then?

Is there no other way?


Owned - or Free.

Speak out - or Shut Up.

That's what it means.

Be trolled - or not.

That's what it means.

How is one different from the other?


The series "Kung Fu" was set in the American Southwest in the 1870s.

Before radio was invented.

But not before callsigns were invented!

Wow! That's one five star education yer packin there,
podner......yee haw!

Do you think callsigns were invented for radio? Think again.

Your current situation requires a different metaphor:

"A man walking along discovers a turd in the middle of his
path. What should he do?

If he is wise, he would step around it and go along his
way. But, if
he should pick it up and begin polishing it, in the
expectation that
it would somehow gain value as a result of his effort, he
would be quite foolish indeed."

Agreed!

He could also avoid the hazard, and point it out to others so
they do not trod in it.

So you're saying that the posts of Len and some others here
are turds.

I think you have a point there!

Hope springs anew!

That's why the polishing isn't going too well sometimes.

So you agree! Excellent!

Now let us consider.....

If your description of Len's posts (the product) is accurate, what does
that make the producer of said product?

That pretty much sums it up, I think.

--

Psychotics build castles in the air
Neurotics live in them
Shrinks collect the rent
-


????

Where'd the rest of it go?

I edited it out as being redundant.

Your basic message was that the way to deal with
certain.....unpleasant items....that one may encounter,
is to simply avoid them completely, rather than picking them
up and fooling with them (which you refer to as
"polishing" - an illustrative description!)

This course of action is particularly appropriate
if the....unpleasant items....were intentionally
placed for you to find, in the hopes you would
react to them in a certain way.

That's really what you've been trying to tell me
all along, isn't it, Leo?

That course of action (avoidance) does make a lot of sense.

However, it occurs to me that the nature of
the...items...tells us something about the
person who created them.

If you encounter a watch, you would
logically conclude that it was made by a watchmaker.

If you encounter a loaf of bread, you would
logically conclude that it was made by a baker.

And if you encountered the....unpleasant items...
you describe as being unpolishable, you would
logically conclude that is was made by an



73 de Jim, N2EY

From: Leo on Jul 7, 5:29 pm

On 5 Jul 2005 17:44:07 -0700, wrote:

I thought I'd answered this one, but apparently not.

You still haven't, actually - 2/3 of the original post is missing....

73, Leo

Oh, my, now we can expect another 10- to 20-screen "reply"
consisting mainly of his chopping up paragraphs into
individual sentences and then committing ritual slaughter
on grabbing out-of-context inferences of selected sentences.

Tsk. Jimmie must have his basement coal bin filled with
old dried turds he is busy polishing, polishing, polishing
in order to admire his own reflection in them... :-(

But, there's a good side. He may insert a personal anecdote
of his doing with mentor Reggie Fessenden in '06 when Reggie
"set the standard for AM broadcasting" by sticking a carbon
microphone in series with a transmitter's antenna. [like
ANY AM voice transmitter does that now...]

Yawn.

From: "b.b." on Thurs 7 Jul 2005 15:28


Leo wrote:
On 5 Jul 2005 17:44:07 -0700, wrote:

I thought I'd answered this one, but apparently not.

You still haven't, actually - 2/3 of the original post is missing....

73, Leo

Jim ran the entire text through his DaVinci Code Reader. The part
snipped spelled out K5TIT, so he very well couldn't have quoted it.

Mighty Macho Morsemen will have none of women? gasp

I wonder if all those "children he parented" (implied) were
by Immaculate Conception?

Rest assured that the LaLeche reLay League has been informed.

Ah! The organization in Newington, the one with the "milk
of ham-an kindness?" :-)

"Polish, polish, polish he goes, and where he stops, nobody
knows..." with some hat tips to Major Bowes' Amateur Hour

bit bit

On 7 Jul 2005 16:09:07 -0700, wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 5 Jul 2005 17:44:07 -0700, wrote:

I thought I'd answered this one, but apparently not.

You still haven't, actually - 2/3 of the original post is missing....

73, Leo


So here goes:

Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 16:10:55 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005 02:34:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 19:12:17 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 27 Jun 2005 09:59:04 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 18:08:19 -0700, wrote:
Leo wrote:
On 26 Jun 2005 11:19:31 -0700, wrote:
You must decide!
You must decide.
You must.

You sound like the chimes of Big Ben.

You missed the reference completely, then.

You cannot answer a question with a question.

I didn't!

Heh heh heh......you have been a puppet for a long time.

Some would say since Arrival

Decide!
Break free.
Decide.

Why?

You must.

Sounds like a Hammer pounding Into an Anvil

That's your spin on it - does not address what actions you
suggest *I* take.

That is your current reality.

That's your soft-science psychobabble spin, then. ;-)

Not at all.

I have decided that it is. Simple as A, B and C


There are only two choices available to you.

Says who?

There are two.

A and B. Option 1 - or Option 2.

There is no C.

There's always a C.

Not in a two variable equation.

Such as this.

Do you want me to deny the truth just to permit Living in Harmony?

Owned. Or Free.

Wimp. Or Strong.

Dit. Or Dah. (mandatory radio content hi hi)

Sounds like an order from The General..
If I respond to Len in any way, you say I have taken Option 1.
Therefore the only way to take Option 2 is for me to shut up.

Not true.

That's what it all boils down to.

All your blathering psychobabble comes down to your trying to tell me to shut up without using those words.

Not true.

Are you hoping that someone will tell you to shut up?

No.

Why?

Polish - or Avoid.

I'm not Polish.

You are polishing. Turds.

Not me!


That's what you're telling me to do.

You could just be clear about it. But that's not your way.

It cannot be simplified any further, Jim.

Sure it can: the two words "shut up"

Do you feel that this is your only logical option, then?

Is there no other way?


Owned - or Free.

Speak out - or Shut Up.

That's what it means.

Be trolled - or not.

That's what it means.

How is one different from the other?


The series "Kung Fu" was set in the American Southwest in the 1870s.

Before radio was invented.

But not before callsigns were invented!

Wow! That's one five star education yer packin there,
podner......yee haw!

Do you think callsigns were invented for radio? Think again.

Your current situation requires a different metaphor:

"A man walking along discovers a turd in the middle of his
path. What should he do?

If he is wise, he would step around it and go along his
way. But, if
he should pick it up and begin polishing it, in the
expectation that
it would somehow gain value as a result of his effort, he
would be quite foolish indeed."

Agreed!

He could also avoid the hazard, and point it out to others so
they do not trod in it.

So you're saying that the posts of Len and some others here
are turds.

I think you have a point there!

Hope springs anew!

That's why the polishing isn't going too well sometimes.

So you agree! Excellent!

Now let us consider.....

If your description of Len's posts (the product) is accurate, what does
that make the producer of said product?

That pretty much sums it up, I think.

--

Psychotics build castles in the air
Neurotics live in them
Shrinks collect the rent
-


????

Where'd the rest of it go?

I edited it out as being redundant.

Fair enough - as long as you get the idea!


Your basic message was that the way to deal with
certain.....unpleasant items....that one may encounter,
is to simply avoid them completely, rather than picking them
up and fooling with them (which you refer to as
"polishing" - an illustrative description!)

This course of action is particularly appropriate
if the....unpleasant items....were intentionally
placed for you to find, in the hopes you would
react to them in a certain way.

That's really what you've been trying to tell me
all along, isn't it, Leo?

That's it - you have it!


That course of action (avoidance) does make a lot of sense.

However, it occurs to me that the nature of
the...items...tells us something about the
person who created them.

If you encounter a watch, you would
logically conclude that it was made by a watchmaker.

If you encounter a loaf of bread, you would
logically conclude that it was made by a baker.

And if you encountered the....unpleasant items...
you describe as being unpolishable, you would
logically conclude that is was made by an

There you go.

And, from what I've read over the last week or so, you have discovered
that application of this philosophy does not limit your posts very
much at all!

Well done.




73 de Jim, N2EY

73, Leo