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Old July 14th 05, 11:45 AM
 
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K4YZ wrote:
From the Arizona Republic online:


Quote: A wake-up call from Luke's jets

With even more detail:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp

73 de Jim, N2EY

"....that's not 'noise' - that's the sound of freedom...."

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Old July 14th 05, 01:53 PM
 
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K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

With apologies beforehand for doing a Foghorn
Lenhorn level nit pick here but F4s are Phantoms
and F-14s are the Tomcats.


Yer abserluterly correct, OT! But I have an excuse --- I'm a blackshoe, =

not a
brownshoe.


Don't sweat it, fact is that brownshoes would as useful as tits on a
bull any farther than 500 miles east of Atlantic City if their wasn't
for the blackshoes.

In any case, "Guinea One" was an F4 driver.


Your skippper flew the best of the best by my measure. Hookup/thumbs
up. First ready. Standby. Second Ready. Salute. Launch. Duck! WHOOSH!
60 seconds later he's seven miles up and looking for a MIG to gnaw on.
In 1958. Any number of sons have flown their father's F4s. If the
Pentagon hadn't finally retired the last operational F4G "Wild Weasels"
in 1996 some hotshot kids would prolly be kicking their grandpappy's
fine rides around in the skies over Afghanistan and Iraq right now.


A half century from now, even a century from now the F4, the B-52 and
the DC-3/C-47/R4D will be the enduring legends they earned. Guinea One
has untouchable bragging rights. The rest are wannabes.

73, de Hans, K0HB


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Old July 14th 05, 02:06 PM
 
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Dave Heil wrote:

Your couple of lines don't even begin to resemble Foghorn. A couple of
lines is a correction. Four or five lengthy paragraphs on the workings
of either aircraft would be windy pontification.


Don't give up on him yet Dave. He's obviously been slowing down of late
and the thread is only a day old, he'll catch up with it eventually and
do one of his usual goofy dumps.

Dave K8MN


w3rv

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Old July 14th 05, 06:03 PM
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wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
From the Arizona Republic online:


Quote: A wake-up call from Luke's jets

With even more detail:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp

73 de Jim, N2EY

"....that's not 'noise' - that's the sound of freedom...."


Gotta give the guy who wrote the initial letter credit for being
"stand-up" and immeidately issuing an unconditional apology for his
comments.

Too bad some in this forum can't find the same strength of
character.

73

Steve, K4YZ

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Old July 14th 05, 07:13 PM
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K4YZ wrote:
From the Arizona Republic online:


Quote: A wake-up call from Luke's jets

Jun. 23, 2005 12:00 AM

"Question of the day for Luke Air Force Base: Whom do we thank for the
morning air show?

Last Wednesday, at precisely 9:11 a.m., a tight formation of four
F-16 jets made a low pass over Arrowhead Mall, continuing west over
Bell Road at approximately 500 feet. Imagine our good fortune!

Do the Tom Cruise-wannabes feel we need this wake-up call, or were they
trying to impress the cashiers at Mervyns' early-bird special?

Any response would be appreciated."



Off topic having nothing to do the ARS or subject RRAP


************************************************** *********

The reply is classic, and a testament to the professionalism and
heroism of the folks in the armed services. The response:

Quote: Regarding "A wake-up call from Luke's jets" (Letters, Thursday):

On June 15, at precisely 9:12 a.m., a perfectly timed four-ship of
F-16s from the 63rd Fighter Squadron at Luke Air Force Base flew over
the grave of Capt Jeremy Fresques.

Capt. Fresques was an Air Force officer who was previously stationed at
Luke Air Force Base and was killed in Iraq on May 30, Memorial Day.

At 9 a.m. on June 15, his family and friends gathered at Sunland
Memorial Park in Sun City to mourn the loss of a husband, son and
friend.

Based on the letter writer's recount of the flyby, and because of the
jet noise, I'm sure you didn't hear the 21-gun salute, the playing of
taps, or my words to the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques as I gave
them their son's flag on behalf of the president of the United States
and all those veterans and servicemen and women who understand the
sacrifices they have endured.

A four-ship flyby is a display of respect the Air Force pays to those
who give their lives in defense of freedom. We are professional
aviators and take our jobs seriously, and on June 15 what the letter
writer witnessed was four officers lining up to pay their ultimate
respects.

The letter writer asks, "Whom do we thank for the morning air show?"

The 56th Fighter Wing will call for you, and forward your thanks to the
widow and parents of Capt. Fresques, and thank them for you, for it was
in their honor that my pilots flew the most honorable formation of
their lives.

Lt. Col. Scott Pleus
CO 63rd Fighter Squadron
Luke Air Force Base




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an_old_friend wrote:

Off topic having nothing to do the ARS or subject RRAP


Take two aspirin and call someone who cares, Markie.

Steve, K4YZ

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but it does prove you were liying when you said everyone was welcome
to comment

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Off topic having nothing to do the ARS or subject RRAP


Take two aspirin and call someone who cares, Markie.


stop breaking the law btw

Steve, K4YZ


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Old July 15th 05, 12:25 AM
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:59:36 GMT, KØHB wrote:

That was everyones signal to get out on the main deck and put your fingers in
your ears and look to the sky, because he'd then coordinate fake
strafing/bombing runs on his own ship.


When I was working at March AFB in the early 60s (the civilian
component of the 22nd SAC Communications Squadron) the 3 am B-52
launches would fly over my apartment at 500 feet or so before
rising into "the wild blue yonder".

No need to own an alarm clock in those days.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


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Old July 15th 05, 03:04 AM
 
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From: K0HB on Jul 14, 12:11 am

"Dave Heil" wrote

Your couple of lines don't even begin to resemble Foghorn. A couple of lines
is a correction. Four or five lengthy paragraphs on the workings of either
aircraft would be windy pontification.


You'd also need to include a statement to the effect that neither aircraft is
equipped with a J38.


Ahem, "J-38" was dropped as a nomenclature in the military yarns
and yarns ago. [try "KY-nnn" and I don't mean jelly... :-) ]

Are they equipped for ANY kind of morse code radio reception? NO.
The military stopped using "BFOs" or equivalent in the 225-400
MHz military band transceivers years and years ago.

You can check that out with the "military veterans" in here, such
as Miccolis, Coslo, and Kelly. :-) [ESPECIALLY Kelly...]

Okay, let us see a show of hands...shall we load Heil on an
F-16 hardpoint and drop him on Guinea-Bisseau as a "radio
CARE consultant" for that fourth-world nation? :-) We can
tape on a wind-up key a la the South African company's
wind-up radio...Ginnea-Bisseauians can "wind him up" and
he can establish SS to spice up the cashew nut production.

Meanwhile, we can all sit back and watch the Mighty Macho
Murine Morseman, Stebie, on his ever-vigilant Mouth-Off For
Freedom! Must be a real wanna-be case there...his fast-attack
CAP patrol plane can't cruise faster than the NASCARs at
Daytona. Maybe he needs a brain bucket with fancy legends
painted all over it? [goes well with that pudgy poopy suit
in the QRZ photo]

Ho hum, another day, some dendrites have been kept from growing
and the steady decline of U.S. ham radio licensees keeps on
truckin'.

bit bit


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