an_old_friend wrote:
but it does prove you were liying when you said everyone was welcome
to comment

Oh?

This is twice you've made comment here.

Who stopped you?

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Off topic having nothing to do the ARS or subject RRAP

Take two aspirin and call someone who cares, Markie.

stop breaking the law btw

And that law would be...?!?!

(And please don't tell me that telling you to take an
over-the-counter drug was "prescribing"...YOU would be lying...)

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:

You can check that out with the "military veterans" in here, such
as Miccolis, Coslo, and Kelly. :-) [ESPECIALLY Kelly...]

I'll take a civilian defense worker who's word can be trusted over
a veteran who takes pride in his lies and deceit any day.

Too bad we have two examples of those here.

Three if we were to believe Markie's deceit about being a "vet".

Okay, let us see a show of hands...shall we load Heil on an
F-16 hardpoint and drop him on Guinea-Bisseau as a "radio
CARE consultant" for that fourth-world nation? We can
tape on a wind-up key a la the South African company's
wind-up radio...Ginnea-Bisseauians can "wind him up" and
he can establish SS to spice up the cashew nut production.

Or we could load Lennie into a time machine so he can "serve" with
guys who were KIA three years before he was even inducted.

Meanwhile, we can all sit back and watch the Mighty Macho
Murine Morseman, Stebie, on his ever-vigilant Mouth-Off For
Freedom! Must be a real wanna-be case there...his fast-attack
CAP patrol plane can't cruise faster than the NASCARs at
Daytona. Maybe he needs a brain bucket with fancy legends
painted all over it? [goes well with that pudgy poopy suit
in the QRZ photo]

Pudgy..Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Ho hum, another day, some dendrites have been kept from growing
and the steady decline of U.S. ham radio licensees keeps on
truckin'.

And Amateur Radio will fare far better without the likes of a
pathological, rear-area war-hero wannabe like Lennie Anderson...

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Phil Kane wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:59:36 GMT, K=D8HB wrote:

That was everyones signal to get out on the main deck and put your finge=
rs in
your ears and look to the sky, because he'd then coordinate fake
strafing/bombing runs on his own ship.

When I was working at March AFB in the early 60s (the civilian
component of the 22nd SAC Communications Squadron) the 3 am B-52
launches would fly over my apartment at 500 feet or so before
rising into "the wild blue yonder".

No need to own an alarm clock in those days.

AGREED. The things have to be the loudest most obnoxious aircraft ever
built. I had to work on a technical paper for a few days at what was
originally an LTV plant in Ft. Worth. I forget who operated it then,
maybe General Dynamics which was building F-16s then. My contact
recommended a motel so I booked it and signed in when I got to Ft.
Worth late on night. I was in bed not more than ten minutes after I
landed in the room. Maybe a couple hours later I was jolted awake by
the most gawdawful noise I'd ever heard, I thought there was an
explosion and headed for the door.

Then came another one, then another. It finally dawned on me that the
racket was aircraft takeoffs and tried to get back to sleep. Nah, not
that night. Come morning I was just starting to shave when another
bunch took off. I couldn't see my puss because the mirror was bouncing
all over the wall. Final straw.

The motel was directly off the end of whatever B-52 base it was which
was alongside the plant. Found another motel, logged outta that dump,
moved, went to the plant and thanked the contact profusely for
recommendation.

Even worse I also bit on his recommendation for a steakhouse figuring
that hey, this is Texas, the home of the ultimate steaks. Worst steak I
ever ran into. If I had enough of them I coulda pieced together a
high-pressure boiler out of the things.


--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

w3rv

There he is. Like clockwork. How much more reliable can he get?

...I was out shooting bears for navel intelligence and had a dinner
date with the captain of an aircraft carrier. Sorry about the
delay.

wrote:


The motel was directly off the end of whatever B-52 base it was which
was alongside the plant.

Carswell, and if you think the B-52s were loud you should have been
there when the B-36s were.

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
but it does prove you were liying when you said everyone was welcome
to comment

Oh?

This is twice you've made comment here.

Who stopped you?

another stevie lie never said stopped I said you lied when you said you
welcome coment from aynone
that was and reamins a lie


K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Off topic having nothing to do the ARS or subject RRAP

Take two aspirin and call someone who cares, Markie.

stop breaking the law btw

And that law would be...?!?!

laws against internet stalking


(And please don't tell me that telling you to take an
over-the-counter drug was "prescribing"...YOU would be lying...)

gigo



Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
From the Arizona Republic online:
Quote: A wake-up call from Luke's jets
With even more detail:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp

73 de Jim, N2EY

"....that's not 'noise' - that's the sound of freedom...."

(originally heard at NAS Willow Grove during an air show)

Gotta give the guy who wrote the initial letter credit for being
"stand-up" and immeidately issuing an unconditional apology for
his comments.

Yup. He simply didn't know. Now he does.

Too bad some in this forum can't find the same strength of
character.

Yup!

I find the Snopes website to be invaluable when confronted with similar
stories. Some are demonstrated urban legends or even outright
fabrications, while others are shown to be even more impressive than
the original story indicates.

www.snopes.com

I wonder if they have anything on the Morse Code vs. text messaging
contest?

One thing I find somewhat amusing are those folks who buy houses near
airports, highways, etc., and then complain about the noise. It would
be different if the house were there first but in most cases the
opposite is true. Newer civilian aircraft are quieter than older models
of similar size, too.

--

I recall fondly a stunt I saw years ago at Moffett AFB in California
during a show there.

The AF Thunderbirds were the final act, and did a number of impressive
formations. Some were fast, some dramatic and others more technical
(they showed the pilots' skills and the aircraft capabilities more than
top speed or fancy maneuvering).

One of the latter was the slow diamond roll formation. Four F-16s in
diamond formation came over the runway low and slow, (airspeed less
than 200) and the entire formation did a slow roll. The announcer
explained the move and what to watch for as they did it. Crowd watched
like a bunch of kittens following a bird, following the formation from
left to right over the runway.

What the announcer didn't point out to the crowd was that the Tbirds
had *five* planes in the air. As the diamond formation finished their
roll and the spectators were almost all looking to the right, the fifth
plane came over the crowd from the right, at just under supersonic
speed. Hilarity ensued.

A few of us knew to "always watch your six" and saw it coming. But we
didn't spoil the fun.

I dunno if anybody does that move anymore but it sure was cool.

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote:

What the announcer didn't point out to the crowd was that the Tbirds
had *five* planes in the air. As the diamond formation finished their
roll and the spectators were almost all looking to the right, the fifth
plane came over the crowd from the right, at just under supersonic
speed. Hilarity ensued.

A few of us knew to "always watch your six" and saw it coming. But we
didn't spoil the fun.

I dunno if anybody does that move anymore but it sure was cool.


My favorite comes at the end of the Blue Angel's routine, and has
basically the same climax. (surprising the crowd)

They approach in diamond formation with all six birds. They begin
a vertical climb at mid-field then "blossom" at the top of the climb
into six different directions.

They do a split-S over the top, then depart. What folks DON'T see
is that at about a mile out they all do a loop and reverse course for
mid-field again. That's when at least two of the birds come in close
to the crowd in the aforementioned near-sonic speed!
KaaaaaaaaaaaaaBOOM!

People always wonder what I'm doing when I cover my ears while the
planes are "out"...I tell them they'll find out in a few seconds!

73

Steve. K4YZ

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
wrote:


The motel was directly off the end of whatever B-52 base it was which
was alongside the plant.

Carswell,

There ya go, tnx.

and if you think the B-52s were loud you should have been
there when the B-36s were.

Found this:

"The engines and propellers produced an unforgettable throbbing sound
when the B-36 flew overhead. A friend of mine remembers the sound from
his boyhood as a "captivating drone. The noise went down to your heels,
it was so resonant. It just stopped you in your tracks. You looked up
into the sky to try to find this thing, and it was just a tiny cross,
it was so high." Others remember that it rattled windows on the ground
from 40,000 feet."

w3rv

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
wrote:


The motel was directly off the end of whatever B-52 base it was which
was alongside the plant.

Carswell,

Tnx.

and if you think the B-52s were loud you should have been
there when the B-36s were.

Found this:

"The engines and propellers produced an unforgettable throbbing sound
when the B-36 flew overhead. A friend of mine remembers the sound from
his boyhood as a "captivating drone. The noise went down to your heels,
it was so resonant. It just stopped you in your tracks. You looked up
into the sky to try to find this thing, and it was just a tiny cross,
it was so high." Others remember that it rattled windows on the ground
from 40,000 feet."

w3rv