Hello, John

Well, troll is when someone starts a thread with the intent of starting a
flame war.

Since the Republicans came to power and some of the stuff I've seen, I'm
willing to troll now. Not much matters anymore. The cw/no cw threads -
which, from what I've seen, means "I don't want any tests".

I seriously don't care that much anymore. I'm seriously thinking of moving
to Florida and simply spending my days in the sunshine (and pool LOL). Let
the freebanders have at it. Don't call me if there is a problem; I spent my
time in 'Nam and figure the no-test folks will have all the answers anyways.

There are no discussions anymore as politics is controlled via the various
programs concerning national security and the sheep follow the leader
regardless. Why study the calculus when you can pick up a calculator (never
mind I've caught one kid making a mistake even using a calculator - if the
owner looses his butt, that's his problem, not mine)?

As to communications or electronics, it won't matter. I remember going
down to a television station over 10 years ago and being told I'd have to
join SMPTE (I think - Society of Motion Picture and Televison Employees ....
not sure) and was shown a "difficult" test I'd have to take. Same damn test
I passed as a teenager in front of the FCC to get my 1st class
radiotelephone license. I was also a full member of that organization when
I was designing UHF translator stations in 1971.

Unfortunately, I reset my newsgroups as they were taking up considerable
space and lost the start of this thread. Unfortunately, I have not been
able to engage in any reasonable discussion in quite some time myself and
I've about resigned myself to avoiding the flames and simply basking in the
sun.

I'm sure some enterprising individual will find a way to blame the folks
that finally got tired of all the mess. Do let me know if Bush ever gets a
clue or the No Test International folks ever think there might be a problem
with letting everyone on any frequency they desire.

I do not believe you ever started a thread with the intent of causing grief,
but I've had some question as to some of your posts in the middle of
threads. Then again, I've been getting a bit testy of late myself

I heard that AOL died in London. The cell phones overload. Of course,
everyone could be assigned their own "frequency" (rather than a free for all
"freeband" agreement). With something like 6 billion folks in the world,
that would take 6 GHz of channels 1 Hz wide. I don't think one can push
much information through a channel 1 Hz wide. Also, no one could have a
very useful antenna much below several hundred KHz.

Maybe the answer is let everyone drive on whatever side of the road they
want?

LOL - no, John, it isn't you. I'm just getting a bit tired. Perhaps I'll
go to bed. I'm seriously considering moving and trashing the computer.
Retire and go fishing, perhaps. I might even invest in a beam and a good hf
rig. I've never found a lid on cw and have had many interesting discussions
on cw (as well as 440 MHz fm).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Jim:

Can you remember when, here in America, we used to discuss matters,
listen to points of view, examine every possibility--in the end, draw
on everything, and finally reach real solutions, real fixes, and
provide solutions everyone could live under?

Do you see how now the word "troll" is tossed out and cowards fly to
hiding places to escape any association with it? Do any of us really
know what a "troll" is?

Frankly, the only definition I will accept for "troll" is someone who
only has the intent of causing anger, confusion and hate--for NO real
purpose...

Do you really see where I do that? Have you even seen where most
accused of being a "troll" really are?

I haven't!

I see where some wish to open up discussions, debate and argument--and
some simply wish to stop all discussion because they are afraid they
will be in disagree with the final conclusions of that--and somehow
they view that as a danger to themselves...

Yanno, some of this is the strangest chit I have ever seen in my
life...

How about your take on it?

John

an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
an_old_pervert:

Hey, I own a set of that "male genitalia" you speak of, gotten quite a
bit of use and enjoyment out of it too!

Now you accuse me of being "genitalia-phobic" in addition to your
accusations of my being "homophobic?"

not unless you are in fact Stevie k4yz

John...you'll have to forgive Markie...He was a regular in this
forum in the late 90's, then he blew off. Then we only had Lennie and
brain as our regular miscreants, but at least they can spell and put a
sentence together.

Markie has serious gender identification issues and as a
consequence of those issues, any discussion that even remotely sounds
like it's gender related get's him all wound up.

I am sure you've also discovered by now that Markie is an
absolutely unrepentant and actually quite proud pathological liar. His
previous tales of his being a drafted "Colonel" in the US Army Chemical
Corps and subsequent unravelling of THAT tale was absolutely
hillarious. (In as much as the draft ended in the 70's, Markie would
have had to have been about 8 years old when he was "drafted"...!)

Watch him splash around in his little mudhole of lies. It's quite
entertaining!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Jim:

Your definition, "Well, troll is when someone starts a thread with the
intent of starting a
flame war."

I don't think that happens often.

Indeed, it is EXACTLY the opposite which is REALLY occurring. Here is
how that really functions and ends up being blamed on the poster:

"If you start a thread on a subject which is unpopular or I do not
agree with--I will flame war there and accuse you of being a troll
which provoked it all--and my flames!" (devil made me do it statement)

I can see how some are confused by these two totally different
situations though, unless you look closely the two can be confused.

Perhaps we could call such, "Terrorist Flame War Threats" and report
'em to homeland security!!!

ROFLOL!

John


"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Hello, John

Well, troll is when someone starts a thread with the intent of
starting a
flame war.

Since the Republicans came to power and some of the stuff I've seen,
I'm
willing to troll now. Not much matters anymore. The cw/no cw
threads -
which, from what I've seen, means "I don't want any tests".

I seriously don't care that much anymore. I'm seriously thinking of
moving
to Florida and simply spending my days in the sunshine (and pool
LOL). Let
the freebanders have at it. Don't call me if there is a problem; I
spent my
time in 'Nam and figure the no-test folks will have all the answers
anyways.

There are no discussions anymore as politics is controlled via the
various
programs concerning national security and the sheep follow the
leader
regardless. Why study the calculus when you can pick up a
calculator (never
mind I've caught one kid making a mistake even using a calculator -
if the
owner looses his butt, that's his problem, not mine)?

As to communications or electronics, it won't matter. I remember
going
down to a television station over 10 years ago and being told I'd
have to
join SMPTE (I think - Society of Motion Picture and Televison
Employees ....
not sure) and was shown a "difficult" test I'd have to take. Same
damn test
I passed as a teenager in front of the FCC to get my 1st class
radiotelephone license. I was also a full member of that
organization when
I was designing UHF translator stations in 1971.

Unfortunately, I reset my newsgroups as they were taking up
considerable
space and lost the start of this thread. Unfortunately, I have not
been
able to engage in any reasonable discussion in quite some time
myself and
I've about resigned myself to avoiding the flames and simply basking
in the
sun.

I'm sure some enterprising individual will find a way to blame the
folks
that finally got tired of all the mess. Do let me know if Bush ever
gets a
clue or the No Test International folks ever think there might be a
problem
with letting everyone on any frequency they desire.

I do not believe you ever started a thread with the intent of
causing grief,
but I've had some question as to some of your posts in the middle of
threads. Then again, I've been getting a bit testy of late myself


I heard that AOL died in London. The cell phones overload. Of
course,
everyone could be assigned their own "frequency" (rather than a free
for all
"freeband" agreement). With something like 6 billion folks in the
world,
that would take 6 GHz of channels 1 Hz wide. I don't think one can
push
much information through a channel 1 Hz wide. Also, no one could
have a
very useful antenna much below several hundred KHz.

Maybe the answer is let everyone drive on whatever side of the road
they
want?

LOL - no, John, it isn't you. I'm just getting a bit tired.
Perhaps I'll
go to bed. I'm seriously considering moving and trashing the
computer.
Retire and go fishing, perhaps. I might even invest in a beam and a
good hf
rig. I've never found a lid on cw and have had many interesting
discussions
on cw (as well as 440 MHz fm).


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Jim:

Can you remember when, here in America, we used to discuss matters,
listen to points of view, examine every possibility--in the end,
draw
on everything, and finally reach real solutions, real fixes, and
provide solutions everyone could live under?

Do you see how now the word "troll" is tossed out and cowards fly
to
hiding places to escape any association with it? Do any of us
really
know what a "troll" is?

Frankly, the only definition I will accept for "troll" is someone
who
only has the intent of causing anger, confusion and hate--for NO
real
purpose...

Do you really see where I do that? Have you even seen where most
accused of being a "troll" really are?

I haven't!

I see where some wish to open up discussions, debate and
argument--and
some simply wish to stop all discussion because they are afraid
they
will be in disagree with the final conclusions of that--and somehow
they view that as a danger to themselves...

Yanno, some of this is the strangest chit I have ever seen in my
life...

How about your take on it?

John

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
an_old_pervert:

Hey, I own a set of that "male genitalia" you speak of, gotten quite a
bit of use and enjoyment out of it too!

Now you accuse me of being "genitalia-phobic" in addition to your
accusations of my being "homophobic?"

not unless you are in fact Stevie k4yz

John...you'll have to forgive Markie...He was a regular in this
forum in the late 90's, then he blew off. Then we only had Lennie and
brain as our regular miscreants, but at least they can spell and put a
sentence together.


break
Markie has serious gender identification issues and as a
consequence of those issues, any discussion that even remotely sounds
like it's gender related get's him all wound up.

more lies stevie


I am sure you've also discovered by now that Markie is an
absolutely unrepentant and actually quite proud pathological liar. His

not pathological

previous tales of his being a drafted "Colonel" in the US Army Chemical
Corps and subsequent unravelling of THAT tale was absolutely
hillarious. (In as much as the draft ended in the 70's, Markie would
have had to have been about 8 years old when he was "drafted"...!)

and more of your lies there

Watch him splash around in his little mudhole of lies. It's quite
entertaining!



73

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ:

Well, we may have all been guilty of that a time or two, but just
might take some of longer to learn from our mistakes--tell ya the
truth, I have been dishonest with a couple of women early on in my
life to attempt to impress 'em. I suppose I can forgive another for
such silliness...

On the gender identification problem, that IS and DOES SEEM TO BE a
real problem and stumbling block for him. I think he is full well to
wage battle for decades in the attempt to get people to accept him
which consider such a "lifestyle" (and I use that word loosely)
PERVERSION!!!!

The militarys' suggest of, "Don't ask, don't tell..." is about the
best I can accommodate such people with...

John

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
an_old_pervert:

Hey, I own a set of that "male genitalia" you speak of, gotten
quite a
bit of use and enjoyment out of it too!

Now you accuse me of being "genitalia-phobic" in addition to your
accusations of my being "homophobic?"

not unless you are in fact Stevie k4yz

John...you'll have to forgive Markie...He was a regular in this
forum in the late 90's, then he blew off. Then we only had Lennie
and
brain as our regular miscreants, but at least they can spell and put
a
sentence together.

Markie has serious gender identification issues and as a
consequence of those issues, any discussion that even remotely
sounds
like it's gender related get's him all wound up.

I am sure you've also discovered by now that Markie is an
absolutely unrepentant and actually quite proud pathological liar.
His
previous tales of his being a drafted "Colonel" in the US Army
Chemical
Corps and subsequent unravelling of THAT tale was absolutely
hillarious. (In as much as the draft ended in the 70's, Markie
would
have had to have been about 8 years old when he was "drafted"...!)

Watch him splash around in his little mudhole of lies. It's
quite
entertaining!

73

Steve, K4YZ

cut

On the gender identification problem, that IS and DOES SEEM TO BE a

what gender Id problem I know male and female I am aware of the various
cases where some question can up

real problem and stumbling block for him. I think he is full well to
wage battle for decades in the attempt to get people to accept him
which consider such a "lifestyle" (and I use that word loosely)
PERVERSION!!!!

why is Ham radio so bigoted?

indeed in other threads it seem one the worstthings people can do to
each other is call them homosexual

why do so many hams care who is sleeping with whom

The militarys' suggest of, "Don't ask, don't tell..." is about the
best I can accommodate such people with...

then when do you start trying to get stev

John

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
an_old_pervert:

Hey, I own a set of that "male genitalia" you speak of, gotten
quite a
bit of use and enjoyment out of it too!

Now you accuse me of being "genitalia-phobic" in addition to your
accusations of my being "homophobic?"

not unless you are in fact Stevie k4yz

John...you'll have to forgive Markie...He was a regular in this
forum in the late 90's, then he blew off. Then we only had Lennie
and
brain as our regular miscreants, but at least they can spell and put
a
sentence together.

Markie has serious gender identification issues and as a
consequence of those issues, any discussion that even remotely
sounds
like it's gender related get's him all wound up.

I am sure you've also discovered by now that Markie is an
absolutely unrepentant and actually quite proud pathological liar.
His
previous tales of his being a drafted "Colonel" in the US Army
Chemical
Corps and subsequent unravelling of THAT tale was absolutely
hillarious. (In as much as the draft ended in the 70's, Markie
would
have had to have been about 8 years old when he was "drafted"...!)

Watch him splash around in his little mudhole of lies. It's
quite
entertaining!

73

Steve, K4YZ

cut

On the gender identification problem, that IS and DOES SEEM TO BE a

what gender Id problem I know male and female I am aware of the various
cases where some question can up

real problem and stumbling block for him. I think he is full well to
wage battle for decades in the attempt to get people to accept him
which consider such a "lifestyle" (and I use that word loosely)
PERVERSION!!!!

why is Ham radio so bigoted?

indeed in other threads it seem one the worstthings people can do to
each other is call them homosexual

why do so many hams care who is sleeping with whom

The militarys' suggest of, "Don't ask, don't tell..." is about the
best I can accommodate such people with...

then when do you start trying to get steve

and a favor if you please finish the statement don't ask don't tell
DON"T PURSUE, which is how it was written


John

John Smith wrote:
an_old_friend:

I am also a bigot against drug addicts in my neighborhood, I am bigoted against child molesters in my neighborhood, thieves, crooks, mobsters, crooked lawyers, crooked politicians, serial killers...

Hey, sometimes ya just gotta be a bigot! I can live with that...

well at least you are honest about it


John

John Smith wrote:
an_old_friend:

I am also a bigot against drug addicts in my neighborhood, I am bigoted against child molesters in my neighborhood, thieves, crooks, mobsters, crooked lawyers, crooked politicians, serial killers...

Hey, sometimes ya just gotta be a bigot! I can live with that...

John

sorry need to follow up in being a bigot you taking the line like
stevie that I have no rights and so forth

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
John Smith wrote:
an_old_pervert:

Hey, I own a set of that "male genitalia" you speak of, gotten quite a
bit of use and enjoyment out of it too!

Now you accuse me of being "genitalia-phobic" in addition to your
accusations of my being "homophobic?"

not unless you are in fact Stevie k4yz

John...you'll have to forgive Markie...He was a regular in this
forum in the late 90's, then he blew off. Then we only had Lennie and
brain as our regular miscreants, but at least they can spell and put a
sentence together.


break
Markie has serious gender identification issues and as a
consequence of those issues, any discussion that even remotely sounds
like it's gender related get's him all wound up.

more lies stevie

Nope.

Absolutely true.

Your own admissions of perversion refer.

I am sure you've also discovered by now that Markie is an
absolutely unrepentant and actually quite proud pathological liar. His

not pathological

Sure you are. You do it automatically. You think it's "OK" to
lie.

previous tales of his being a drafted "Colonel" in the US Army Chemical
Corps and subsequent unravelling of THAT tale was absolutely
hillarious. (In as much as the draft ended in the 70's, Markie would
have had to have been about 8 years old when he was "drafted"...!)

and more of your lies there

Nope...Just more exposure of YOUR lies, "Colonel"...

Watch him splash around in his little mudhole of lies. It's quite
entertaining!

See what I mean?

Steve, K4YZ