Michael Coslo wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
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To put it another way: "Objective reality doesn't care what you
believe"

Like in one sentence even! 8^)


and govt regs and objective reality are rarely compatable

just look at where the FCC put the Local only CB service

You mean the frequency they use?

the freq and the fact they are not allowed beyond a certain range
dispite the freqs being quite cappable of sustaining it


- Mike KB3EIA -

From: Leo on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:29:28 -0400


On 25 Jul 2005 08:59:17 -0700, wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Mike Coslo on Jul 22, 4:01 pm
wrote:
From: Michael Coslo on Fri 22 Jul 2005 13:37

Why are you sounding insecure? The FCC defines U.S. amateur
radio. You don't define U.S. amateur radio.

Insecure? So are the others who *know* how it is to be defined also
insecure?

Tsk. Don't try that ploy. THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO
IN THE UNITED STATES. Period.

You folks all missed an important point.

We are told in no uncertain terms that

"THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO IN THE UNITED STATES. Period."

That is true. The definition and regulatory package ensures that
folks who participate in the hobby do not interfere with other users
of the spectrum (or each other), or utilize it for purposes that it is
not intended to be used for (such as for business purposes).

Not for "pecuniary reasons" is how Part 97 got the title of
AMATEUR radio.

Pardon me while I interject some OBJECTIVE REALITY to this
most subjective fantasy thing.


But the same nonamateur also tells us that amateur radio

"is a HOBBY".

Yet the word "HOBBY" or "hobby" does not appear anywhere in Part 97.
The FCC
doesn't use that word at all in connection with the definition of
the Amateur Radio Service.

So the FCC, who define amateur radio in the United States, don't use
the
word "hobby" in their definition. Yet we are told that amateur radio
*is* a
hobby.

Do you see the contradiction?

Jimmie's contradictions are coming every day now...he must
be about to give birth to a new Flame War?

Looks like someone doesn't know what he's talking about.....

Must be a common mistake - looks like the ARRL missed that one
too....quote:

"Here's your invitation to a friendly, high-tech hobby that's got
something fun for everyone! You can become an Amateur Radio
operator....."

http://www.arrl.org/hamradio.html

Hmmm - you'd think they'd know what it is - wouldn't you?

BTW, Part 97 does NOT mention "ham" radio at all...none
of the U.S. regulations refer to "ham" in any way. :-)


To put it another way: "Objective reality doesn't care what you
believe"

That's for sure!

Subjective fantasy beats objective reality every time...in here.

dit dah

Len wrote:

"Not for "pecuniary reasons" is how Part 97 got the title of AMATEUR radio."

Good point, I have noticed some "professional amateurs" about. Couple of
"professional idiots" too (deep uncaring concern for politics, maybe damn
GREEKS! , never paid attention to if they happened to be hams or not...

John

wrote in message
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From: Leo on Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:29:28 -0400


On 25 Jul 2005 08:59:17 -0700, wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: Mike Coslo on Jul 22, 4:01 pm
wrote:
From: Michael Coslo on Fri 22 Jul 2005 13:37

Why are you sounding insecure? The FCC defines U.S. amateur
radio. You don't define U.S. amateur radio.

Insecure? So are the others who *know* how it is to be defined also
insecure?

Tsk. Don't try that ploy. THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO
IN THE UNITED STATES. Period.

You folks all missed an important point.

We are told in no uncertain terms that

"THE FCC DEFINES AMATEUR RADIO IN THE UNITED STATES. Period."

That is true. The definition and regulatory package ensures that
folks who participate in the hobby do not interfere with other users
of the spectrum (or each other), or utilize it for purposes that it is
not intended to be used for (such as for business purposes).

Not for "pecuniary reasons" is how Part 97 got the title of
AMATEUR radio.

Pardon me while I interject some OBJECTIVE REALITY to this
most subjective fantasy thing.


But the same nonamateur also tells us that amateur radio

"is a HOBBY".

Yet the word "HOBBY" or "hobby" does not appear anywhere in Part 97.
The FCC
doesn't use that word at all in connection with the definition of
the Amateur Radio Service.

So the FCC, who define amateur radio in the United States, don't use
the
word "hobby" in their definition. Yet we are told that amateur radio
*is* a
hobby.

Do you see the contradiction?

Jimmie's contradictions are coming every day now...he must
be about to give birth to a new Flame War?

Looks like someone doesn't know what he's talking about.....

Must be a common mistake - looks like the ARRL missed that one
too....quote:

"Here's your invitation to a friendly, high-tech hobby that's got
something fun for everyone! You can become an Amateur Radio
operator....."

http://www.arrl.org/hamradio.html

Hmmm - you'd think they'd know what it is - wouldn't you?

BTW, Part 97 does NOT mention "ham" radio at all...none
of the U.S. regulations refer to "ham" in any way. :-)


To put it another way: "Objective reality doesn't care what you
believe"

That's for sure!

Subjective fantasy beats objective reality every time...in here.

dit dah

wrote

none of the U.S. regulations refer to "ham" in any way.

Sure they do.... the USDA regulations.

KXHB:

Only a swine would enjoy that joke!!!!
tongue-in-cheek

John

"KXHB" wrote in message
nk.net...

wrote

none of the U.S. regulations refer to "ham" in any way.

Sure they do.... the USDA regulations.

From: K0HB on Jul 28, 8:55 pm

wrote

none of the U.S. regulations refer to "ham" in any way.

Sure they do.... the USDA regulations.

Nicely TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

Remember: "Ham is the butchered meat of swine."


dit dit

"Dee Flint" wrote in
:

Well we'll have to wait and see. Personally I predict a flurry of
upgrades but no sustained growth.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



You can see the truth about ham radio at any hamfest.....dying of old age.

73 DE W4CSC

--
Larry

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Dee Flint" wrote in
:

Well we'll have to wait and see. Personally I predict a flurry of
upgrades but no sustained growth.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



You can see the truth about ham radio at any hamfest.....dying of old age.

73 DE W4CSC

--
Larry

So what? The whole country is getting older. After the baby boomers go
away the whole country will be hispanic.

Dan/W4NTI

Larry:

That visual is probably wasted, hard to tell how many hams are legally
blind, probably think all those old bald hams are just young "skin heads"
who have taken up the hobby!

John

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:58:01 -0400, Larry wrote:

"Dee Flint" wrote in
:

Well we'll have to wait and see. Personally I predict a flurry of
upgrades but no sustained growth.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



You can see the truth about ham radio at any hamfest.....dying of old age.

73 DE W4CSC