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Looks like it's time to write more letter. To the FCC? Nope, to your local
elected officials! All it takes is to get the attention of someone who has a
say in the FCC's budget and is willing to make an inquiry re. "this Morse
code thing."

Don't let this discourage you, the battle for the integrity of the US ARS is
far from over. Remember the vanity-call system and how it came about.

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Old July 21st 05, 01:03 AM
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On 20 Jul 2005 14:51:54 -0700, wrote:

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It is sad, inasmuch as this definitely represents a dramatic change to
the structure of Amateur Radio in the US - Morse has been an integral
part of the hobby for as long as most anyone living can remember.

Surprisingly, there is no impetus to change the technical content of
the exams - I would have bet on that one!

There are some good things in the NPRM as well, though - the massive
proposals for upgrading hundreds of thousands of current licensees to
the next higher license class did not survive. This topic seemed to
polarize folks as much (or more than!) the Morse issue itself.

However, Morse has too big a following to just disappear from the
bands completely - it will be there for many years to come!

The feeling here in Canada is that we are probably weeks away from a
similar announcement......one which, in all probability, will mirror
the US NPRM very closely.

We'll soon see!

73, Leo




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about time or rather long past time

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Old July 21st 05, 02:10 AM
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Finally, the FCC has seen the light of day.

Allowing a few senile old men to kill amateur radio with their
moth-ridden egos was too much to sit by watching. Apparently, someone
else also noticed.

This may be a hint that a new dawn may be rising on amateur radio and
some new energetic fellows may be allowed to step in and move amateur
radio from the stoneage.

I think all knew, it was only a matter of time. I just expected more
would have to fall to death by old age before this would happen, but I
knew time was close. Still, keep your fingers crossed, a few old
"girly-boy" old hams bit*hing like old women can hold back true
advancement.

This does prophesize the future, however, a few years may still need
to pass before this is finally realized.

John

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Well now we will see if the Techs are paying attention. If they are, we
should (but I bet we won't) see a major increase in people taking element 3
over the next several months as the FCC should have this wrapped up before
their CSCEs expire.

And now we'll see how many people have been "kept out by the Morse code".
Of course we'll need to monitor over several years to see if their is a
trend. A few months won't tell us a thing.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



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Note also that the FCC took what I always considered the most likely course
on this issue and that was to simply drop the requirement, assuming that
this NPRM is implemented.

If people had not tried to overhaul the entire system in their various (18)
petitions, this most likely would have happened over a year ago.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Finally, the FCC has seen the light of day.

Allowing a few senile old men to kill amateur radio with their moth-ridden
egos was too much to sit by watching. Apparently, someone else also
noticed.

This may be a hint that a new dawn may be rising on amateur radio and some
new energetic fellows may be allowed to step in and move amateur radio
from the stoneage.

I think all knew, it was only a matter of time. I just expected more
would have to fall to death by old age before this would happen, but I
knew time was close. Still, keep your fingers crossed, a few old
"girly-boy" old hams bit*hing like old women can hold back true
advancement.

This does prophesize the future, however, a few years may still need to
pass before this is finally realized.

John


Well we'll have to wait and see. Personally I predict a flurry of upgrades
but no sustained growth.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Dee:

Although we have differences in our thoughts and evaluation of this
whole situation, let us both hope you are wrong--dear.

We need some good news for a change! Amateur radio and a bright
future for it is bigger than you and I put together, indeed, it is
more important than all of us here.

Warmest regards,
John

"Dee
Flint" wrote in message
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Finally, the FCC has seen the light of day.

Allowing a few senile old men to kill amateur radio with their
moth-ridden egos was too much to sit by watching. Apparently,
someone else also noticed.

This may be a hint that a new dawn may be rising on amateur radio
and some new energetic fellows may be allowed to step in and move
amateur radio from the stoneage.

I think all knew, it was only a matter of time. I just expected
more would have to fall to death by old age before this would
happen, but I knew time was close. Still, keep your fingers
crossed, a few old "girly-boy" old hams bit*hing like old women can
hold back true advancement.

This does prophesize the future, however, a few years may still
need to pass before this is finally realized.

John


Well we'll have to wait and see. Personally I predict a flurry of
upgrades but no sustained growth.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old July 21st 05, 04:00 AM
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"John Smith" wrote in message
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Dee:

Although we have differences in our thoughts and evaluation of this whole
situation, let us both hope you are wrong--dear.

We need some good news for a change! Amateur radio and a bright future
for it is bigger than you and I put together, indeed, it is more important
than all of us here.

Warmest regards,
John

"Dee


I see a fine future for amateur radio but I also see a stabilization of
numbers just as is occuring in our population growth and all the other
activities to which I belong. The news of the FCC action and the action
itself will have little to no noticeable impact. Ham radio would continue
to develop either way.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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