THE PLOT THICKENS IN THE NCTA V. PCTA AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIPS!

As of the close of business in DC on 2 Aug 05, WT Docket 05-235
Comments a

Total 408
In-Between/Dupes 25*
Against Elimination 122
For Elimination 261

* In-betweeners are those "following" the ARRL plan to scrap code
testing for all but Extras, therefore with feetses in both camps.
Also 2 duplicates (Dupes) appeared in August up to 2nd; two more
on 2 Aug are considered in this category because the writers
appear undecided and/or wanting something else not on the Docket.

Note: Submissions made prior to late-night whatever at the FCC
computer are appearing on that date in the next days search
(the software/procedures may have changed since last year). A
listing made at 6 PM Eastern does NOT necessarily contain ALL
Comments made later on that same day. For that reason I will
be monitoring a day behind and allow the current day's contents
to accumulate. This posting's numbers may not be complete as for
2 Aug 05 (99 total, 13 in-betweener, 30 against) but are complete
for the 9 days up to and including 1 Aug 05.

To date, the NCTA:PCTA ratio has shrunk to 261:122 or 2.14:1
ratio. The number of "in-betweener" Comments has increased
markedly over the first week's Comments; someone may be
pumping up the "ARRL plan" behind the scenes so to speak. :-)
More morsemen are joining the fray in August. Stay tuned.
This is only Day 10 of Comments; there are 65 more days
before the official end of shouting and hollering.

doo dah

Today's Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Championships!

As of the of the day in DC on 3 Aug 05, WT Docket 05-235
Comments a

Total 575
In-Between/Dupes 54*
Against Elimination 129
For Elimination 392

* In-betweeners are those "following" the ARRL plan to scrap code
testing for all but Extras, therefore with feetses in both camps.
In that group also are duplicate Comments and a few who wish a
higher morse rate for all below 30 MHz! Excluded are the "joke"
comments with names and given mailing addresses which are
obviously phony.

Note: The DATE RECEIVED block on the ECFS Search Listings is
running on Eastern time zone and the calendar date for all
Comments is set accordingly.

To date, the NCTA:PCTA ratio is 392:129 or 3.1:1 ratio. The
number of "in-betweener" Comments has increased markedly over
the second week of Comments. To double-check that, I went
through the entire "Against" Comments collection prior to 3
August and adjusted them and the "In-betweeners" accordingly.

Stay tuned. This was only Day 11 of Comments; there are 64
more days before the official end of shouting and hollering.

did dah

Today's Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Championships!

As of the of the day in DC on 4 Aug 05, WT Docket 05-235
Comments a

Total 662
In-Between/Dupes 67*
Against Elimination 152
For Elimination 443

* In-betweeners are those "following" the ARRL plan to scrap code
testing for all but Extras, therefore with feetses in both camps.
In that group also are duplicate Comments and a few who wish a
higher morse rate for all below 30 MHz! Excluded are the "joke"
comments with names and given mailing addresses which are
obviously phony.

Note: The DATE RECEIVED block on the ECFS Search Listings is
running on Eastern time zone and the calendar date for all
Comments is set accordingly.

To date, the NCTA:PCTA ratio is 443:152 or 2.9:1 ratio. The
number of "in-betweener" Comments has increased markedly over
the second week of Comments.

Stay tuned. This NPRM has NOT YET appeared in the Federal Register
so the Comments seen so far may/may not be used by the FCC in
determining the final Report & Order. Thanks to Carl Stevenson for
pointing out the Federal Register non-appearance.

did dah

Len:

Kinda of disappointing, you would think this would heat the blood much
more and the comments would have been much more, even though,
apparently, they comment too quickly... dismal figures there... I am
thinking about seeing a shrink next week and seeking medication to fight
off this depression... Krist those of "Brotherhood of the Dead Key" must
be wearing black arm bands... perhaps contemplating a change of church!
(away from the "Jehovah's Witness to the ARRL", "Holy Order of the
Brothers of the CW Cross to Bear" or "Brotherhood of the Brass Key")

I expected those for elimination to run 10:1 against those supporting! I
just can't understand it... I will use this bottle of Jim Beam to console
my spirits, a "Meeting of the Spirits" if you will...

John

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 22:21:36 -0700, LenAnderson wrote:

Today's Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Championships!

As of the of the day in DC on 4 Aug 05, WT Docket 05-235
Comments a

Total 662
In-Between/Dupes 67*
Against Elimination 152
For Elimination 443

* In-betweeners are those "following" the ARRL plan to scrap code
testing for all but Extras, therefore with feetses in both camps.
In that group also are duplicate Comments and a few who wish a
higher morse rate for all below 30 MHz! Excluded are the "joke"
comments with names and given mailing addresses which are
obviously phony.

Note: The DATE RECEIVED block on the ECFS Search Listings is
running on Eastern time zone and the calendar date for all
Comments is set accordingly.

To date, the NCTA:PCTA ratio is 443:152 or 2.9:1 ratio. The
number of "in-betweener" Comments has increased markedly over
the second week of Comments.

Stay tuned. This NPRM has NOT YET appeared in the Federal Register
so the Comments seen so far may/may not be used by the FCC in
determining the final Report & Order. Thanks to Carl Stevenson for
pointing out the Federal Register non-appearance.

did dah

From: John Smith on Thurs 4 Aug 2005 22:39

Len:

Kinda of disappointing, you would think this would heat the blood much
more and the comments would have been much more, even though,
apparently, they comment too quickly... dismal figures there... I am
thinking about seeing a shrink next week and seeking medication to fight
off this depression... Krist those of "Brotherhood of the Dead Key" must
be wearing black arm bands... perhaps contemplating a change of church!
(away from the "Jehovah's Witness to the ARRL", "Holy Order of the
Brothers of the CW Cross to Bear" or "Brotherhood of the Brass Key")

Not to worry, John, even as we click away the Church of St. Hiram
is perparing a Novena.

Get your supply of votive candles before the stores run out...

I expected those for elimination to run 10:1 against those supporting! I
just can't understand it... I will use this bottle of Jim Beam to console
my spirits, a "Meeting of the Spirits" if you will...

Well, settling for a mid-morning cup of coffee instead, my take
would have been a 4:1 ratio in favor of tossing the code test.

That's my old opinion based on slowly getting into the Elimination
fray about a quarter century ago...and having the advantage to
work full time in the REAL HF communications field a half century
ago.

What the rabid hams can't see is that there is MUCH MORE in the
whole of electronics to interest hobbyists. Note: Ham radio IS
a hobby activity regardless of the posturing and puffery of its
"servicemen" and "radio" is a subset of the whole of electronics.
For example, the hobby (and businesses supplying) of robotics
grew at an alarming rate in the last 5 years, catching me by
surprise...and I try to keep a pulse feel on the whole of
electronics. Such differing hobbies draw personal (hobby)
interests away from the "purity" of ham radio...and can account
for a lessening interest of either of the For or Against NPRM
groups. Ham radio gets the "who cares?" treatment and hobbyists
go to other things more fun and with less of the regimental,
strictly-ordered "fun" of being a "serviceman."

who car

Today's Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Championships!

As of the end of the week in DC on 5 Aug 05, WT Docket 05-235
Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention a

Total 744
In-Between/Dupes 81*
Against Elimination 182
For Elimination 481

* In-betweeners are those "following" the ARRL plan to scrap code
testing for all but Extras, therefore with feetses in both camps.
In that group also are duplicate Comments or those commenting on
matters other than addressed in the NPRM. Those include one that
is obviously a "joke" entry.

Note: The DATE RECEIVED block on the ECFS Search Listings is
running on Eastern time zone and the calendar date for all
Comments is set accordingly.

To date, the average definite-opinion NCTA:PCTA ratio is 481:182
or 2.6:1 ratio. This excludes all 81 "in-betweener" Comments.

5 August 2005 is the 13th day of submitted commentaries. A notice
about FCC 05-143 or Docket WT 05-235 has NOT YET BEEN MADE in
the Federal Register so it is unknown if these 13 days of Comments
will be accepted by the Commission for decision on any Report and
Order. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being
made, like it or not.

dit out

Today's Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Championships!

As of midnight EDT on 8 Aug 05, WT Docket 05-235
Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention a

Total 1215

Indeterminate/duplicates (note 1) 50

Unambiguously Against NPRM (note 2) 329 28.24%
Unambiguously For NPRM (note 3) 685 58.80%
Code test ONLY for Extras (note 4) 151 12.96%


Notes:

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentage figures are calculated against the Total less
the number of Indeterminate entries. For all up to
midnight of 8 Aug 05 that Total would be 1165.

A growing number of keep-code-test-for-Extra entries prompted
a review of all entries up to 8 Aug 05 and revision of the
previous postings of Against and Indeterminate numbers.
This was exacerbated by 14 entries made into the various day
listings by the FCC after midnight of the days given. Total
entry numbers are correct to the FCC-given totals up to and
including 8 Aug 05. Having read each and every entry made
so far, new entries made in previous day's listings can be
spotted without fail and tallied groups corrected as need be.

8 August 2005 is the 14th day of submitted Comments. A notice
about FCC 05-143 or Docket WT 05-235 has NOT YET BEEN MADE in
the Federal Register so it is unknown if these 14 days of Comments
will be accepted by the Commission for decision on any Report and
Order. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being
made, like it or not.

dit dah

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Today's Scorecard in the NCTA v. PCTA Amateur Championships!

As of midnight EDT on 8 Aug 05, WT Docket 05-235
Comments on Test Element 1 Elimination/Retention a

Total 1215

Indeterminate/duplicates (note 1) 50

Unambiguously Against NPRM (note 2) 329 28.24%
Unambiguously For NPRM (note 3) 685 58.80%
Code test ONLY for Extras (note 4) 151 12.96%


Notes:

1. Includes duplicate postings from same individual, "joke"
or "test" entries which do not have a valid address, or
polemicizing a personal pet peeve which has nothing to
do with the NPRM, one foreign citizen submission.

2. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly FOR the
NPRM and the abolition of the morse code test.

3. Includes only those who are whole-heartedly AGAINST
the NPRM and against dropping any code testing.

4. These are "in-betweeners" who wish to retain the code
test for the "highest" class (Extra) but will accept
eliminating the code test for other classes.

Percentage figures are calculated against the Total less
the number of Indeterminate entries. For all up to
midnight of 8 Aug 05 that Total would be 1165.

A growing number of keep-code-test-for-Extra entries prompted
a review of all entries up to 8 Aug 05 and revision of the
previous postings of Against and Indeterminate numbers.
This was exacerbated by 14 entries made into the various day
listings by the FCC after midnight of the days given. Total
entry numbers are correct to the FCC-given totals up to and
including 8 Aug 05. Having read each and every entry made
so far, new entries made in previous day's listings can be
spotted without fail and tallied groups corrected as need be.

8 August 2005 is the 14th day of submitted Comments. A notice
about FCC 05-143 or Docket WT 05-235 has NOT YET BEEN MADE in
the Federal Register so it is unknown if these 14 days of Comments
will be accepted by the Commission for decision on any Report and
Order. Stay tuned...the future of U.S. amateur radio is being
made, like it or not.

dit dah




How do I submit a comment? I haven't been able to find it on the FCC site?

http://www.msu.edu/~volzmich/commenthelp.htm

leads to a site that will walk you through the process

or let you look at other comments etc

Alun, it's through the Search buttons on the Home page. But, you
can go direct via:

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs

That gets you to the ECFS main page. On the left of that you will
see several links which will supply you with the data page where
you must fill in the required items...when that is done you have a
choice of uploading a prepared file (WordPerfect, MS Word, or PDF)
or to make your comment on-line (watch line length, no over-run or
it will look funny). I use WordPerfect and convert it to PDF with
Acrobat 4 (full version) and upload that.

If you want a copy of FCC 05-143, the document spelling out what
the NPRM is, it is the very first document in the docket, entered
on 15 July 2005.

You will get a data-begin page with every choice of links from the
main ECFS page. To see all of the Docket entries, just enter
05-235 in the upper left corner box and press Return/Enter. That
yields a list of EVERY entry under that docket. You can get to
an individual day date entry by filling in the numeric date fields
in the middle of the data-begin page...or an individual's entry
if you know the exact spelling of their name used on their entry.

had fun