wrote

Your comments are specifically mentioned in the NPRM,
Hans - but FCC didn't act on any of them besides proposing
to drop Element 1.

Democracy doesn't mean you'll get your every wish, only that the wish will be
considered. I'm satisfied that my wishes were considered.

I'm ready to move on. Ham radio is way too much fun for me to do dismay chants
about the FCC dismissing my ideas.

73, de Hans, K0HB

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John Smith wrote:
Len:

ahhhhh....

I like to build antennas... I like to experiment with them...

But, I am a software engineer, not a hardware engineer (some of the
math interests me) and frankly, anyone who will pay attention to my
rants about the either consider me a loon frown... something has to
seem
like "magic" to me--or I will lose faith altogether! grin

WHATEVER you do, don't ask for any antenna advice from these "higher"
hams on RRAP. I made that mistake. Once!


There are some individuals here that can and or could answer antenna
questions....I think you would find a better selection of knowledgeable
individuals at...

rec.radio.amateur.antenna

Dan/W4NTI

John Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:23:26 -0700, N2EY wrote:

Because I can. And because I won't ask others to pass a test
that I can't pass myself.


That is awfully big of you, however, keep it mind that amateur radio (the
rf bands) should be open to ALL AMERICANS...

Every American (and foreigners living in America) have the very same
opportunity for obtaining an amateur radio license.

I happen to have been favored by my creator. If I understand where I
stand on IQ charts, roughly 5% of people are my equal or betters...

You're not supposed to stand on them. It is quite possible that folks
with a lower IQ could still be your equal or betters.

If I
took a test which fully tested my abilities, then required the same of
others--I could end up rather lonely...

I'm guessing that you're already rather lonely.

I think the test should be one which at least 95% of ALL amercians can
pass--more or less like a drivers license...

Just use your CB radio or find a newsgroup to haunt. That'll end your
loneliness.

Dave K8MN

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:23:26 -0700, N2EY wrote:

Because I can. And because I won't ask others to pass a test
that I can't pass myself.


That is awfully big of you, however, keep it mind that amateur radio (the
rf bands) should be open to ALL AMERICANS...

Every American (and foreigners living in America) have the very same
opportunity for obtaining an amateur radio license.

I happen to have been favored by my creator. If I understand where I
stand on IQ charts, roughly 5% of people are my equal or betters...

You're not supposed to stand on them. It is quite possible that folks
with a lower IQ could still be your equal or betters.

If I
took a test which fully tested my abilities, then required the same of
others--I could end up rather lonely...

I'm guessing that you're already rather lonely.

I think the test should be one which at least 95% of ALL amercians can
pass--more or less like a drivers license...

lets see, to get a drivers license you have to be at least 16, that cuts out
a lot of americans who make good hams. you have to be able to see, that
cuts out some more hams. you have to be able to exert some kind of
mechanical control over the vehicle, that cuts out some more. you can't
have an active seziure disorder, that cuts out more... boy, sure does seem
harder to get a drivers license than a ham ticket... considering the
youngest extra operator recently was a 9 year old girl, i know a couple
blind hams, and some who couldn't get a drivers license for other medical
reasons. and then there are the idiots who lose their license because they
are just too plain dumb to follow the rules, oh wait, we do have a couple of
hams who fit that description also.




Just use your CB radio or find a newsgroup to haunt. That'll end your
loneliness.

Dave K8MN

i think he just found a group to haunt, and someone to keep him from being
lonely!

wrote:
From: on Sep 3, 1:55 pm


John Smith wrote:

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:23:26 -0700, N2EY wrote:


Because I can. And because I won't ask others to pass a test
that I can't pass myself.
That is awfully big of you, however, keep it mind that amateur radio (the rf bands) should be open to ALL AMERICANS...

They are open to all who can pass the required tests. In fact
a nonresident noncitizen can get an FCC amateur radio license.


Don't forget cute little 6-year-olds who passed their WRITTENS.

It is a cinch that *you* haven't forgotten them. :-)


All an IQ test shows is how well you take IQ tests. There
are many different kinds of intelligence, and trying to
describe them with a single number is ludicrous.


OK, so now we all know that Jimmie didn't score high on a
Stanford-Binet IQ test! :-)

You're big on jumping to false conclusions. You might be setting
yourself up to make another factual error. :-) :-)


And when you say "95% of all [Americans]" - does that include
those under the age of, say, 5 years? How about those with
severe developmental delays and deficits? Does it include those
Americans with dementia or Alzheimer's disease? How about those
who are illiterate or barely literate, those for whom English is
a foreign language, and those with all sorts of other problems
and limitations?

Or do you mean 95% of all healthy, educated, "average" Americans over
the age of, say, 10 years?


The present written tests are simple enough for two SIX YEAR OLDS
to pass their license tests under the watchful eye of kindly,
grandfatherly-looking VEs. Imagine, two SIX YEAR OLDS with perfect
understanding of all regulations and the MATURITY to act
responsibly on their own!

Yeah, imagine that. If they could do it, it would seem that a guy like
you could do it--but you haven't.

Dave K8MN

wrote

Imagine, two SIX YEAR OLDS with perfect
understanding of all regulations

Well, maybe not "perfect understanding" --- a score of
74.285714285714285714285714285714% on the Technician and General written exams,
or a score of 74.000000000000000000000% on the Extra written is considered by
the FCC as adequate understanding.

Beep beep!
de Hans, K0HB

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
Len:

ahhhhh....

I like to build antennas... I like to experiment with them...

But, I am a software engineer, not a hardware engineer (some of the
math interests me) and frankly, anyone who will pay attention to my
rants about the either consider me a loon frown... something has to
seem
like "magic" to me--or I will lose faith altogether! grin

WHATEVER you do, don't ask for any antenna advice from these "higher"
hams on RRAP. I made that mistake. Once!

There are some individuals here that can and or could answer antenna
questions....I think you would find a better selection of knowledgeable
individuals at...

Perhaps. They've got "thier" own little wars going on over there. I
never dreamed that antenna discussions could cause such disharmony
within the ARS.

K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

Your comments are specifically mentioned in the NPRM,
Hans - but FCC didn't act on any of them besides proposing
to drop Element 1.

Democracy doesn't mean you'll get your every wish, only that
the wish will be
considered. I'm satisfied that my wishes were considered.

A nice sentiment, but FCC rules are not made democratically.

I'm ready to move on.

Ham radio is way too much fun for me to
do dismay chants about the FCC dismissing my ideas.

Same here!

73 de Jim, N2EY

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
cut
As far as anyone knows, he's never told
FCC to discard that age-requirement idea.

No, he hasn't. The best you'll get out of him is that he has not
pursued it further.

why should he tell the FCC not to do something they have decided not to
do
cut


Suppose my Stanford-Binet IQ test score is higher than Len's. Or lower,
or the same. How would his behavior here change?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I don't think his
behavior would change at all.

hardly out on a limb
cut


Consider Paul Schleck's recent, excellent post here, Dave.

I've not only considered Paul's post, I've read the expected tone in
Len's reply.

Dave K8MN

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(SNIP)

Let's also not forget that Len asked the FCC to institute
an age requirement of 14 years for any class of amateur
radio license. Yet when challenged to cite *any* examples
of problems in the ARS caused by the licensing of young
children, he could not come up with a single example.

As far as anyone knows, he's never told
FCC to discard that age-requirement idea.

With all due respect, if the FCC has NOT acted on
Len's age-requirement idea by now, it can be assumed
to be a dead idea and rrequires no "please discard"
note/memo/letter.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK