Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message
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Health and Welfare traffic is lower priority but it's still important
for people to know that their friends/relatives are okay and they know
he's okay too. Then they can attend to matters at hand with a clearer
head. Ham radio offloads H&W from police/govt/mil comm links so they
have enough bandwidth to handle the high priority stuff.


Sure H&W is of less importance. Saving lives is the highest priority.
But
you know something? It sure made me feel good when I delivered those
messages from the disaster area. That is worth all the BS I read in
here.

thank you for making my point so well Dan

Hams don't look with much real objectivity on their role in disasters

Dan/W4NTI


And what are you doing in support of this disaster asshole?

One I am not making Ham radio look bad by puting on airs

Two, Nothing realy for me to do (as a radio operator), No 6m or sat
traffic to assit with I am tech class as you should know by now.

as a Private person well I am waiting for some folks to get here form
NO been geting ready shelter them likely for the winter, contribing
though such organizations as I choose


Now of course you are bragging and ****ed now that you are not getting
rave reviews for your efforts

Dan/W4NTI

Braging see the following
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
I hope you folks can give a listen to HF during this disaster. It is
amazing how Ham Radio has stepped up to the plate and is providing
Communications where the Commercial infrastructure is destroyed.

7290, 7285, 14.265, 3935, 3873, 3965 and many others I am sure.

I'm listening to a young lady right now with the Baptist feeding unit in
Biloxi Mississippi on the Alabama net frequency of 3965 passing messages to
family and friends outside of the disaster area.

Such as "Daddy were alright" Don't worry have not been able to call
before.

And this is for you Len Anderson......take your anti-ham crap and shove it.

taking this disaster and using it as club to beat up someone you don't
like

such Nobility ham radio can do without

Back to work, thanks to you all for the help you are providing.

Dan/W4NTI

--
Grand Exhalted Liberator of the Electric Smoke





I guess I better not mention to him what I am doing with MARS also, eh?

That is bragging too, right?

Dan/W4NTI

...

No, Dan. You are not bragging but stating fact.
Keep up the fine work and pay no heed to the Blowguts such as Lennie and his
apostles.

From: K0HB on Sep 3, 5:32 pm


"an_old_friend" wrote

you are braging,

My granny always told me "It ain't bragging if you can do it."

Then your "granny" is Jimmie Miccolis or she was a mis-quoted
former baseball player.


On "bragging:" Frank has the real motive pinned to the wall with
a big sign saying (variously) "Look at me!", "Love me because I am
a Hero", "Ham radio is Heroic, a savior to mankind" or some such
nonsensical SELF-praise.

Dan Jeswald and some others have the stock non-reply ready and
waiting: "Disagree with me and you HATE ham radio!" :-)

Indeed, ANY disagreement with Truthspeak sayings of the ARRL is
labeled as "You HATE ham radio!"

That sort of "critique" is as boring as it is nonsensical. It is
just bullsnit.

Amateur radio is a HOBBY, a personal activity involving
transmission of RF energy communications for recreation as a fun
avocation. It has always been so since the beginning of government
regulated radio 93 years ago. It is called a "service" because
that is the regulatory term used by the FCC for all U.S. civil
radio to denote a type and kind of radio being regulated.

Sending health and welfare messages does NOT supply BASIC NEEDS
to disaster victims, doesn't give them food, shelter, hygiene
facilities, medical aid, or anything else but some slight emotional
sustenance. Once this snack bite of emotion is satisfied, the
victims are still stuck with BASIC NEEDS that aren't satisfied by
some radio messages. Health and welfare messages do NOT reach into
the disaster center where the majority of victims are. Health and
welfare messages to distant family and friends usually "travels"
on the existing infrastructure of public communications that was
not affected by any disaster. Health and welfare messages don't
transport homeless victims to dry shelter over almost-impassible
flooded roadways. But, some of the carriers of a FEW health and
welfare messages think they are the next thing to those who can
walk on water, those who perform miracles, and other vainglorious
accomplishments.

ORDINARY CITIZENS can do much for disaster victims in their own
way by whatever means work for them. Few ordinary citizens want
"name recognition" for themselves or gratuitous praise heaped on
them for minor assistance efforts. They do it because they are
human and want to help fellow humans victimized by a disaster.
Tens of thousands, perhaps more, are doing that already. They
aren't USING what they do in order to heap praise upon themselves.
They just do it and that's that.

But, in HERE, we've got those who grab the banners of praise and
wrap it around themselves and parrot the feel-good phrases of the
clubs "Ham radio is showing what it's good for!" as if that were
the sole purpose of creation of that radio service. It wasn't.
Public Safety Radio Services were created for that and more and
have been as busy as possible, working without fanfare or big
signs of "look at me, I'm a hero" on their T-shirts.

So, somebody passes some health and welfare messages on a Net.
Clap, clap, mild applause. Their medals and certificates of valor
are in the mail. Not to worry, a big membership organization will
compose the sagas that will become legend in history. All those
Net members are automatic HEROES for passing messages and then
passing gas about their Wonderful Good Works. Clap, clap.

All who call their passing gas as vainglorious are labeled
"haters of ham radio" in order to end any and all discussion.
The HOBBY must remain "heroic." Clap, clap.


bip bip

---
Liberator of Common Sense and Deflator of Gaseous Egos

You are one large pathetic example of a ham radio operator. You sit there
and badmouth not just me, but every one of the thousands of hams that are,
or will be, directly involved in this emergence. You self admit that your
just a tech and don't see anything you can do on radio, what am I to do?
Feel sorry for you and your tech ticket? ITS NOT ABOUT YOU. Then you turn
it all around and make it look like I, the messenger of a good thing, am
bragging.

You sir are not just a idiot but a disgrace. Turn in your license and shut
your stupid face.

Dan/W4NTI

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message
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Health and Welfare traffic is lower priority but it's still
important
for people to know that their friends/relatives are okay and they
know
he's okay too. Then they can attend to matters at hand with a
clearer
head. Ham radio offloads H&W from police/govt/mil comm links so
they
have enough bandwidth to handle the high priority stuff.


Sure H&W is of less importance. Saving lives is the highest priority.
But
you know something? It sure made me feel good when I delivered those
messages from the disaster area. That is worth all the BS I read in
here.

thank you for making my point so well Dan

Hams don't look with much real objectivity on their role in disasters

Dan/W4NTI


And what are you doing in support of this disaster asshole?

One I am not making Ham radio look bad by puting on airs

Two, Nothing realy for me to do (as a radio operator), No 6m or sat
traffic to assit with I am tech class as you should know by now.

as a Private person well I am waiting for some folks to get here form
NO been geting ready shelter them likely for the winter, contribing
though such organizations as I choose


Now of course you are bragging and ****ed now that you are not getting
rave reviews for your efforts

Dan/W4NTI

"KØHB" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote


I guess I better not mention to him what I am doing with MARS also, eh?


Whatever you mention about Amateur Radio, "Old Friend" will denigrate it.

Beep beep!
de Hans, K0HB




Tell me about it. I put him in the same category as Lennie the loon.

Dan/W4NTI

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:54:49 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote in
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"KØHB" wrote in message
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"an_old_friend" wrote

you are braging,

My granny always told me "It ain't bragging if you can do it."

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB
--
Grand Exhalted Liberator of the Electric Smoke





I guess I better not mention to him what I am doing with MARS also, eh?

That is bragging too, right?


Look at the subject line of this post. This entire thread was started
by you doing nothing -but- bragging; i.e, "how Ham Radio has stepped
up to the plate", how it's "showing its stuff", etc. Maybe you've
forgotten the definition of the word "brag"..... let me refresh your
failing memory, Dan:

brag -- v. [OFr, 'braguer'], to boast. n. 1. a boast; boasting. 2. a
person or thing boasted of. 3. a braggart.

braggart -- n. an offensively boastful person.

And it's certainly offensive when there are still people suffering
while you are carrying on about how great ham radio is and how you get
a warm fuzzy when you pass a couple messages. That's like a little kid
at a funeral begging for attention by making faces and yelling, "Look
at me! Look at me!". How old are you anyway, Dan?

I'm old enough to know an ignorant SOB when I see one. YOU.

Dan/W4NTI

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote

I put him in the same category as Lennie the loon.

Now you've gone and insulted both of them (but don't worry --- they'll both
consider it a compliment!)

73, de Hans, K0HB

Disecting a real pack of lies

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
You are one large pathetic example of a ham radio operator.cut

first lie since oyu of course have no idea what my skills are as an Ham
radio operator

cut You sit there
and badmouth not just me, cut
Second lie follows Never said anything againt thousands of ham
operators just Dan's bragging

cut but every one of the thousands of hams that are,
or will be, directly involved in this emergence. You self admit that your
just a tech and don't see anything you can do on radio, cut
Ok to here but then
Cut what am I to do?

Never said anything like that a third lie in as many lines

Feel sorry for you and your tech ticket? cut

Another lie/personal attack I simply pointed my license class effective
precludes my jioning in the effort, which it clearly does. I answer his
questions and he he is ****ed off

cutITS NOT ABOUT YOU. cut
But at that point in answering your question about what I was Doing it
was certainly about me

so another Lie

Cut Then you turn
it all around and make it look like I, the messenger of a good thing, am
bragging.

as You are bragging you post was about YOU and what YOU did and then
trying to use the incident as a club against others

You are a Bully and a Bragart

You sir are not just a idiot but a disgrace. Turn in your license and shut
your stupid face.

just the Bulling we have seen for years from the elitists like yourself

Not about to turn in my license or shut up

You should grow up and act like an adult.

Learn to accept that not everyone in the world MUST agree with you



Dan/W4NTI

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message
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Health and Welfare traffic is lower priority but it's still
important
for people to know that their friends/relatives are okay and they
know
he's okay too. Then they can attend to matters at hand with a
clearer
head. Ham radio offloads H&W from police/govt/mil comm links so
they
have enough bandwidth to handle the high priority stuff.


Sure H&W is of less importance. Saving lives is the highest priority.
But
you know something? It sure made me feel good when I delivered those
messages from the disaster area. That is worth all the BS I read in
here.

thank you for making my point so well Dan

Hams don't look with much real objectivity on their role in disasters

Dan/W4NTI


And what are you doing in support of this disaster asshole?

One I am not making Ham radio look bad by puting on airs

Two, Nothing realy for me to do (as a radio operator), No 6m or sat
traffic to assit with I am tech class as you should know by now.

as a Private person well I am waiting for some folks to get here form
NO been geting ready shelter them likely for the winter, contribing
though such organizations as I choose


Now of course you are bragging and ****ed now that you are not getting
rave reviews for your efforts

Dan/W4NTI

"an_old_friend" wrote


Another lie/personal attack I simply pointed my license class effective
precludes my jioning in the effort, which it clearly does.


Don't take that cop-out, Old Friend. Competent operators of all license classes
(especially including UHF/VHF Techs) will be in great demand over the next many
months of recovery. Put together a capable VHF/UHF station, maybe including a
portable repeater or a base rig with cross-band repeat capability, and volunteer
your services at http://katrina.ab2m.net/ .

73, de Hans, K0HB