From: John Smith on Sep 16, 7:12 am

Len:

I have given "free power" quite a bit of thought. Even if a method
existed, all govt's, indeed, all peoples would almost be fools to allow it
to be unleashed. (and my "conspiracy theory mentality" notices a few
strange deaths of individuals evolving themselves with such efforts--but
probably just a coincidence grin)

John, you are starting to get into the "how many angels dance on
the head of a pin" sort of discussion. Not my cuppa...

Think about a muslim terrorist (or a group of them!) with an unlimited
energy supply, perhaps we would be wise in what we wish for--I can easily
imagine a scenario which makes the new orleans disaster look mild...

Then write a book on it. For the fiction genre you are up against
Tom Clancy and his bestsellers currently undergoing reprints for
the stands. For fictional documentary sort of claptrap you still
have good old Erich von Daniken alive and still unwell in der
Schweiz [see "In Search of Ancient Astronauts"].

For REAL DISASTER EMERGENCY ELECTRICAL POWER practical situations
there are, and have been for some time, for 24-hour service:

1. Diesel motors driving rotary electrical generators, having
storable diesel oil fuel.

2. Gasoline motors driving rotary electrical generators, having
storable gasoline fuel.

3. Liquified gas fueled motors driving rotary electrical
generators, the liquified gas storable for long periods.

4. Jet propellant fueled turbines driving rotary electrical
generators, the jet propellant storable for long periods.

5. Hybrid steam turbines, fueled by a variety of storable fuels
to heat water to steam which drives the turbine which, in
turn drives a rotary electrical generator. Nuclear
electrical generators fall into this category with the
storable fuel in the form of radioactive elements providing
heat from radioactive decay.

6. Wind-driven (turbine-like) rotary electrical generators,
subject to varying wind conditions.

7. Thermoelectric junction DC electrical generators using many
different forms of storable, combustible fuels. Once popular
in Russia and the USSR but generally low power output.

For very low power drain electrical loads there are a variety of
forms of manually-cranked, spring-driven motive forces for
rotary electrical generators or "primary" (use once)
electrochemical reaction "batteries." All are storable.

"Secondary" (use many times) batteries require periodic recharging
to alter their internal electrochemistry, such electrical recharge
provided by any of the preceding seven generator types. Within
limits of their electrochemistry system, those are storable.

Solar cells haven't been listed because the Earth's rotation
prevents 24-hour continuous illumination/energy-intake to operate.

All of the above have much literature and data available for
consultation/learning/teaching/etc., including books.

A complex hybrid solar boiler and heat storage medium typified
by the Mojave, CA, "Solar One" and "Solar Two" 50 MWe pilot plants
experimented by a consortium of California utility companies.
Those are too massive to consider for emergency electric power
generation; "Solar One" had over 300 heliostats (tracking mirrors
forming a segmented mirror to focus solar energy on a central
boiler). [been there, worked on that...]

There are variants which have been publicized, such as tidal
water flow driven electrical generators, but those have not yet
been made a size suitable for transportable emergency electric
power generation.

For real-life, tried-and-proven electrical power necessary to
effect radio communication in disaster/emergency situations, one
should turn to one of the seven STORABLE FUEL systems listed.
That's REALITY.

However, in here, REALITY results in a few whiny little mal-
contents far from disaster areas ****ing and moaning fantasies
of heroism and amateurs being First Responders. Those begrudge
all who don't buy into their fantasies as "hating ham radio!"

Gas Bag Lennie expounds yet again.

Never say in one paragraph, Lennie, that which you can say in sixteen.

Donny wrote:
Gas Bag Lennie expounds yet again.

Never say in one paragraph, Lennie, that which you can say in sixteen.

Dumbass Davies whines again because what Anderson posted was so far
above his 1st grade reading level of Dr. Who and Star Trek.

Tell me, fatty, have you ever had an original thought in that hollow,
worthless skull of yours yet? Or is that still in the early planning
stages? Enquiring minds, etc.