In uk.radio.amateur The Magnum wrote:
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck all
the time.

Whish is firmly where the responsibility is meant to lay. The Licensee is
the one responsible for the correct operation of his station at all times.
If he is not physically present, it is his/her responsibilty to ensure that
the equipment is disabled.
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

"zYYPK"

rcom.ie.net wrote in message ...
"The Magnum" wrote:


"zarPK"


rcom.ie.net wrote in message ...
"The Magnum" wrote:

just a form of elitist snobbery. Also trying to say anyone who
doesnt
want
to learn morse is basically a "scumbag" shows Bigotry beyond
contempt.
Why

I said no such thing !

you have some correcting to do.

That comment was meant for the posters who say people on Amateur Bands
who
do not wish to involve themselves with morse are lowly class CBers who
seem
to live in trailor parks and live off welfare and care nothing (scumbags
in
other words) It wasnt aimed directly at you it was put in as an "Also"
to
those who try to put that image over. Maybe I should have made it a bit
clearer.


IT IS MY OPINION THAT...
theres a difference between
a cb'er who choses to join and amateur radio to improve his/her knowledge
and capability with radio
and
a cb'er who choses to invade amateur bands just to have extra bands to
play with and brings his/her 11m habits with him/her


Yes, I agree with you whole heartedly but many older Hams refer to "both" as
simply CB'ers. This "will" upset genuine CB radio operators, and those who
did advance to Amateur from CB, as many full licence Hams dont seem able to
distinguish between the two, or dont want to distinguish... thats the
problem.
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck all
the time.
Regards,
Graham

"Walter Raleigh" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:08:18 GMT,


com.ie.net
(zYYPK) blurted forth into cyberspace:

*apologies to Spike*
IT IS MY OPINION THAT...
theres a difference between
a cb'er who choses to join and amateur radio to improve his/her knowledge
and capability with radio
and
a cb'er who choses to invade amateur bands just to have extra bands to
play with and brings his/her 11m habits with him/her

Absolutely correct.
--

73s de Walter R.

Not absolutely correct. Correct in some instances but i know lots of people
on 11 meter who go on SSB (illegaly of course) who treat it sensibly and
dont mess about. Many 11 meter users, especially the SSB users, have
reasonably good control on the airwaves even to the point of writing a log
and QSL'ing. These are CB'ers im talking about by the way, not Amateurs
although I know a couple of Amateurs who used to join in occasionally (using
their pirate call signs of course)
Regards,
Graham

"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm"
wrote in message ...
In uk.radio.amateur The Magnum
wrote:
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on
Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they
are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck
all
the time.

Whish is firmly where the responsibility is meant to lay. The Licensee is
the one responsible for the correct operation of his station at all times.
If he is not physically present, it is his/her responsibilty to ensure
that
the equipment is disabled.
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

Maybe not to the point of disconnecting his/her equipment but at least
bringing up their kids to be respectful of things. I would personally put a
lock on the "shack" door so I could secure the room but some people have
them in their living room so sometimes I guess its asking for trouble. My CB
is in my office and also one in my repair "shack" and when I go out I make
sure both are locked. If I can do it for CB why cant they do it with their
Amateur kit... which is far more valuable in any case. Mind you, some adults
cant even be arsed to secure their guns but thats a different story.......
Regards,
Graham

see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm wrote:
In uk.radio.amateur The Magnum wrote:
Also the point still stands that a few, if not lot of problems on Amateur
bands could be down to kids going on their parents equipment while they are
out. There are lots of possibilitys but the CB'er gets it in the neck all
the time.

Whish is firmly where the responsibility is meant to lay. The Licensee is
the one responsible for the correct operation of his station at all times.
If he is not physically present, it is his/her responsibilty to ensure that
the equipment is disabled.

not exactly or only in theory the Ham is responible for the use of his
equipement, but when was the last time the FCC tried to bust a ham for
say someone breaking into his car and using the equipment

In addition some modes can be used without the ham being present at
all

My car for example will transmit an APRS signal at intervals anytime
the engine is running, unless I turn it off each time I turn on the
engine. This allows me to kow where the body thing is if my old man
calls back to house and tells me he is lost, or if I found the car
missing and knew none of had it I could tell the cops where to go find
the theives
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

In uk.radio.amateur an old friend wrote:
not exactly or only in theory the Ham is responible for the use of his
equipement, but when was the last time the FCC tried to bust a ham for
say someone breaking into his car and using the equipment

In addition some modes can be used without the ham being present at
all

My car for example will transmit an APRS signal at intervals anytime
the engine is running, unless I turn it off each time I turn on the
engine. This allows me to kow where the body thing is if my old man
calls back to house and tells me he is lost, or if I found the car
missing and knew none of had it I could tell the cops where to go find
the theives

Since when has the FCC had jurisdiction over radio amateurs in the UK?
British regulations are different to that in the UK.
--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

"The Magnum" wrote:


Not absolutely correct. Correct in some instances but i know lots of people
on 11 meter who go on SSB (illegaly of course) who treat it sensibly and
dont mess about. Many 11 meter users, especially the SSB users, have
reasonably good control on the airwaves even to the point of writing a log
and QSL'ing. These are CB'ers im talking about by the way, not Amateurs
although I know a couple of Amateurs who used to join in occasionally (using
their pirate call signs of course)


later on...
i remembered those on 11m who are the height of decency and kindness
and strive for excellence on 11m rather than messing around.

"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm"
wrote:
Since when has the FCC had jurisdiction over radio amateurs in the UK?

this can be arranged :-)

This kind of continual foul language, and the anti-M3 and anti-RSGB
attitude (not to mention the "wisdom" portrayed in sig files) are some of
the reasons why amateurs will not be taken seriously over the BPL issue.
Do the regulars of this group realise that it is becoming legendary for
everything Usenet was supposed not to be? Surely it is possible to have a
civilised debate without this stuff?

Jock. wrote:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:47:24 +0100, Nedlar wrote:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:50:03 +0100, "huLLy"
wrote:


It's 'its' you ****wit!

Why don't you correct your CB chum Magnum?
His postings are typical of the semi-literate, brain-dead CBr.

Yes, but he's a Yank. Illiteracy is expected of them.

--

73 de Jock.

"You will always find that those who are most apt to
boast of national merit, have little or no merit of
their own to depend on". - Oliver Goldsmith.

wrote in message ...
This kind of continual foul language, and the anti-M3 and anti-RSGB
attitude (not to mention the "wisdom" portrayed in sig files) are some of
the reasons why amateurs will not be taken seriously over the BPL issue.
Do the regulars of this group realise that it is becoming legendary for
everything Usenet was supposed not to be? Surely it is possible to have a
civilised debate without this stuff?

It is an insecurity thing.

Look where the "and the anti-M3 and anti-RSGB attitude (not to mention the
"wisdom" portrayed in sig files) " comes from an you rarely see anything of
value from the same source.

--
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk