wrote:
Iitoi wrote:

I wonder if James

Do you mean me?

will continue to challenge the tally now that it
appears to support his view of the topic, or if the challenge is based
on "you can't trust someone who has no license".

I'm simply asking for an explanation of how the 'scorecard'
is derived. The questions are simple and straightforward,
but Len gets all upset when someone questions anything he
posts here.

Here are some of the questions:

1) Does anyone check Len's work? (it appears that only Len
does this)

We appoint you to do this.

2) Do the totals include only comments, or reply comments?
(it appears they include reply comments too)

You tell us.

3) Are multiple comments/reply comments from the same person counted,
even if they are not identical? (Len has filed at least 5 different
comments/reply comments on WT 05-235. Are they counted as 1 or 5 or
something else?)

You tell us.

4) How is it determined if a comment has a "valid address"?

You tell us.

Whether or not the person posting a "scorecard" has a license or no
license makes no difference to me.

Wunnerful. Tally it both ways and let us know if it made a difference.

Whether they are procodetest or
nocodetest also makes no difference to me.

But will you respect us in the morning?

I just want some direct answers to questions about the process of
generating the tallies. But such answers are considered insults
by Len.

Your questions will be answered in the details of you checking Len's
work, See Q/A #1 above.

Meanwhile, other parties are also counting the comments.

What other parties?

They
show each and every comment on a website, classify it, and provide a
link
to the comment so you can see for yourself. They're listed in
alphabetical order by the last name of the filer for easy reference,
and dupes stand out clearly.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Since someone else is also performing the tally, would you care to
compare/contrast the tallies?

On 27 Oct 2005 16:33:17 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
Iitoi wrote:

I wonder if James

Do you mean me?

will continue to challenge the tally now that it
appears to support his view of the topic, or if the challenge is based
on "you can't trust someone who has no license".

I'm simply asking for an explanation of how the 'scorecard'
is derived. The questions are simple and straightforward,
but Len gets all upset when someone questions anything he
posts here.

Here are some of the questions:

1) Does anyone check Len's work? (it appears that only Len
does this)

We appoint you to do this.

2) Do the totals include only comments, or reply comments?
(it appears they include reply comments too)

You tell us.

3) Are multiple comments/reply comments from the same person counted,
even if they are not identical? (Len has filed at least 5 different
comments/reply comments on WT 05-235. Are they counted as 1 or 5 or
something else?)

You tell us.

4) How is it determined if a comment has a "valid address"?

You tell us.

Whether or not the person posting a "scorecard" has a license or no
license makes no difference to me.

Wunnerful. Tally it both ways and let us know if it made a difference.

Whether they are procodetest or
nocodetest also makes no difference to me.

But will you respect us in the morning?

I just want some direct answers to questions about the process of
generating the tallies. But such answers are considered insults
by Len.

Your questions will be answered in the details of you checking Len's
work, See Q/A #1 above.

Meanwhile, other parties are also counting the comments.

What other parties?

They
show each and every comment on a website, classify it, and provide a
link
to the comment so you can see for yourself. They're listed in
alphabetical order by the last name of the filer for easy reference,
and dupes stand out clearly.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Since someone else is also performing the tally, would you care to
compare/contrast the tallies?

obviously not he seem to prefer carping at Len

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K4YZ wrote:
Iitoi wrote:
K4YZ Wrote:

With THESE numbers, "Litoi", it's even better...

The name is Iitoi, not Litoi.

I statnd corrected...My apologies!

"stand"

wrote:
On 27 Oct 2005 16:16:26 -0700, wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

And the support FOR
code testing in that five hours in the "Since Notice" column jumped
almost 3 points.

The ARRL e-newsletter came out.

that would explain a lot

Complete with a clickable link to the FCC comment page and instructions
how to do it.

interesting that Stevie wasn't bright enough to notice this point

Interesting that Steve didn't get the e-mail. He made such a stink
about me getting the annual dues amount incorrect, and he doesn't even
get the ARRL e-newsletter.

Hmmmm? Is Steve even an ARRL member?

would be even if you could confirm said e-letter had something about
the NPRM in it just for completeness sack

Had -something- about??? It was ALL about...

Uh, lemmee see what I can do?
----------------------------------
SB QST @ ARL $ARLB024
ARLB024 Deadline is October 31 to file comments in FCC "Morse code"
proceeding

ZCZC AG24
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 24 ARLB024
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT October 25, 2005
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB024
ARLB024 Deadline is October 31 to file comments in FCC "Morse code"
proceeding

With just a few days to go before the filing deadline, more than
2600 comments have been filed in response to the FCC "Morse code"
Notice of Proposed Rule Making and Order (NPRM&O) in WT Docket
05-235. The NPRM&O has proposed to do away with the 5 WPM Morse code
requirement for all license classes. It also denied several
proposals to create a new entry-level license class.

The closing date for comments is Monday, October 31. Reply comments
are due Monday, November 14.

To file on-line comments on the FCC NPRM&O in WT Docket 05-235 or to
view others' comments in the proceeding, visit the FCC Electronic
Comment Filing System (ECFS), http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/. In the
"Proceeding" field, enter "05-235" (without the quotation
marks but
including the hyphen).

Alternative filing formats are available for people with
disabilities. Contact the FCC to request reasonable accommodations
(accessible format documents, sign language interpreters, CART, etc)
by e-mail, , or telephone 202-418-0530 or TTY
202-418-0432.

For additional information, contact William T. Cross, Public Safety
and Critical Infrastructure Division, Wireless Telecommunications
Bureau, ; 202-418-0680; TTY 202-418-7233.

An FCC Report and Order in this proceeding is not likely until
sometime in 2006.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:17:38 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:43:33 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:


RST Engineering wrote:

"K4YZ" wrote in message
legroups.com...



Here's where your confusion exists, Jim...The post responded to
was by Lennie Anderson, a non-licensed participant in an Amateur Radio
forum on USENET.


I don't give a royal flying freak if it was posted by a little green
Martian. Last I looked it was data posted to a usenet group by an
individual.

No kidding?


You don't need any credentials or licenses to post to any given
group, last I looked.

No, you don't need any credentials to post but you'd better have some
knowledge of the material the group deals with. Feel free to post to a
group dealing with 17th century Chinese art but you'd better not attempt
coming off as an expert. You'll be seen as a fraud and no one will take
you seriously.


and how are you conecting this the the thread at a hand

Get someone else to explain it to you, Mark. I don't have the time nor
do I have the inclination.

meaning you did not realy have a point beyond trying to flame Len

And, I consider Len to be just a little more
competent to post than you.

Now I have some questions as to your credentials. Len Anderson is a
sidewalk superintendent to amateur radio.

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wrote:
On 27 Oct 2005 16:33:17 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
Iitoi wrote:

I wonder if James

Do you mean me?

will continue to challenge the tally now that it
appears to support his view of the topic, or if the challenge is based
on "you can't trust someone who has no license".

I'm simply asking for an explanation of how the 'scorecard'
is derived. The questions are simple and straightforward,
but Len gets all upset when someone questions anything he
posts here.

Here are some of the questions:

1) Does anyone check Len's work? (it appears that only Len
does this)

We appoint you to do this.

2) Do the totals include only comments, or reply comments?
(it appears they include reply comments too)

You tell us.

3) Are multiple comments/reply comments from the same person counted,
even if they are not identical? (Len has filed at least 5 different
comments/reply comments on WT 05-235. Are they counted as 1 or 5 or
something else?)

You tell us.

4) How is it determined if a comment has a "valid address"?

You tell us.

Whether or not the person posting a "scorecard" has a license or no
license makes no difference to me.

Wunnerful. Tally it both ways and let us know if it made a difference.

Whether they are procodetest or
nocodetest also makes no difference to me.

But will you respect us in the morning?

I just want some direct answers to questions about the process of
generating the tallies. But such answers are considered insults
by Len.

Your questions will be answered in the details of you checking Len's
work, See Q/A #1 above.

Meanwhile, other parties are also counting the comments.

What other parties?

They
show each and every comment on a website, classify it, and provide a
link
to the comment so you can see for yourself. They're listed in
alphabetical order by the last name of the filer for easy reference,
and dupes stand out clearly.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Since someone else is also performing the tally, would you care to
compare/contrast the tallies?

obviously not he seem to prefer carping at Len

Yep. He has no real interest in the issue since he's made up his mind
that the FCC is against his precious Morse Code exam. His only purpose
now is to try to discredit his primary antagonist before he departs
RRAP for Coslo's exclusive BBS.

On 27 Oct 2005 20:14:29 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
On 27 Oct 2005 16:33:17 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
Iitoi wrote:

I wonder if James
cut

73 de Jim, N2EY

Since someone else is also performing the tally, would you care to
compare/contrast the tallies?

obviously not he seem to prefer carping at Len

Yep. He has no real interest in the issue since he's made up his mind
that the FCC is against his precious Morse Code exam. His only purpose
now is to try to discredit his primary antagonist before he departs
RRAP for Coslo's exclusive BBS.

amusing and sad how he and other go on Len's lack of license but are
still vitaly concerned about what he may say

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Really?

Novice 1959
Technician 1960
Advanced 1981?
Extra 2002?

BS Electronics Physics; 18 semester units to an MSEE.
Community College and Adult High School credential teaching ham radio class
since 1967.
Taught roughly 50 semester classes.
100% pass rate.

VE ARRL
VE LAARG

Published technical articles in 73, HR, and local club rags.
Internationally acknowledged expert in the subject of hidden antennas.
Monthly column in national magazine on do-it-yourself electronics.


Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.

Jim




Now I have some questions as to your credentials. Len Anderson is a
sidewalk superintendent to amateur radio.

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:47:28 -0700, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

Really?

Novice 1959
Technician 1960
Advanced 1981?
Extra 2002?

BS Electronics Physics; 18 semester units to an MSEE.
Community College and Adult High School credential teaching ham radio class
since 1967.
Taught roughly 50 semester classes.
100% pass rate.

VE ARRL
VE LAARG

Published technical articles in 73, HR, and local club rags.
Internationally acknowledged expert in the subject of hidden antennas.
Monthly column in national magazine on do-it-yourself electronics.


Now, lay YOURS out on the table and see who takes a knife to it.

queitly wonders how Steveie and/or Dave Vile will try trashing that

Jim




Now I have some questions as to your credentials. Len Anderson is a
sidewalk superintendent to amateur radio.


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wrote:
On 27 Oct 2005 20:14:29 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
On 27 Oct 2005 16:33:17 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
Iitoi wrote:

I wonder if James
cut

73 de Jim, N2EY

Since someone else is also performing the tally, would you care to
compare/contrast the tallies?

obviously not he seem to prefer carping at Len

Yep. He has no real interest in the issue since he's made up his mind
that the FCC is against his precious Morse Code exam. His only purpose
now is to try to discredit his primary antagonist before he departs
RRAP for Coslo's exclusive BBS.

amusing and sad how he and other go on Len's lack of license but are
still vitaly concerned about what he may say

Yep. They protest too loudly, drawing the attention to Len's words
which might otherwise not attract so much attention.

Have you seen the new thread where James points out Len being
uncomfortable with children participating in what Len believes to be a
primarily adult activity?

Hi!