On 3 Dec 2005 07:40:17 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: "an old friend" on Sun, Nov 27 2005 6:55 pm

cut
my apologies I was trying to simply agee on paper with Jim...

Paper? Where's the paper?

gog find it

Gog find it?

Isn't "Gog" that troll-like character in the comic strip
"B.C."...?!?!?

nope

...as a
Retorical tactic I was also accepting the screwed up procode difer that
says Cw test was the same as operating skill...

I beg to "difer" with your "Retorical" tactic, Colonel.

beg all you like I can't help

There's so little you CAN help with, Markie.

ltle or not it is more than you seem to manage

(just tryin some
hypothecials to see if Jim could get past the nonsense or if Jim is as
traped as Stevie and Dave

Only "hyptothecially" could you "trape" anybody.

did you have anything to say?

it doesn't look like it

The point he was making, Blockhead, is that who can understand
YOUR point...?!?!

I am not responaible for your lack of reading skill


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he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

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KØHB wrote:

The USCG Barque Eagle, homeported at the Coast Guard Academy in Connecticutt, is
a working training ship, used in training future seagoing officers.

You knew it was coming, I'm su

Why would those otherwise qualified, future seagoing officers have to
jump through the sailing ship hoops when they have no intention of using
anything with a sail on it. After all, couldn't they just learn to sail
if they needed to? ;-)

Dave K8MN

K4YZ wrote:

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Steve, K4YZ

Get help.

KØHB wrote:
wrote

They're floating museum pieces.

In your dreams, landlubber! Just a couple of examples for you.....

The USS Constitution, homeported at Boston, is a commissioned US Navy ship (in
fact the flagship of the US Navy) with a full active duty crew of sailors.. Not
a museum (the museum is across the street from her berth).

Wow! The flagship of the US Navy is a wooden boat. I guess that just
shows the differences in the services. Even if the Air Force could
train it's Airmen in the Wright Flyer, we wouldn't.

The Navy probably makes all communicators learn Morse Code, too.

On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:14:33 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


wrote


They're floating museum pieces.


In your dreams, landlubber! Just a couple of examples for you.....

The USS Constitution, homeported at Boston, is a commissioned US Navy ship (in
fact the flagship of the US Navy) with a full active duty crew of sailors. Not
a museum (the museum is across the street from her berth).

bull****

she may have an active duty crew but NO ONE IS ever going to allow to
to sail into into battle

The USCG Barque Eagle, homeported at the Coast Guard Academy in Connecticutt, is
a working training ship, used in training future seagoing officers.

73, de Hans, K0HB




everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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On 3 Dec 2005 13:55:24 -0800, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:

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Steve, K4YZ

Get help.

soon you need it bad
everyone should be advised that The following person
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he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
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WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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KØHB wrote:
wrote

They're floating museum pieces.

In your dreams, landlubber! Just a couple of examples for you.....

The USS Constitution, homeported at Boston, is a commissioned US Navy ship (in
fact the flagship of the US Navy) with a full active duty crew of sailors.. Not
a museum (the museum is across the street from her berth).

Been there, Hans.

"Old Ironsides" is a museum piece. A fully operational museum piece
that actually
sails every few years, but a museum piece nonetheless. Her main
functions are
educational and historic, not military.

The USCG Barque Eagle, homeported at the Coast Guard Academy in Connecticutt, is a working training ship, used in training future seagoing officers.

Does she go out on search and rescue? Or is her purpose mostly
historic
and educational?

I'm glad those ships are kept in operation. But in reality they are
working museum
pieces.

They're like the steam and first-generation diesel locomotives that a
few
Class 1 American railroads have kept on their rosters. Those old locos
spend
most of the time in storage, but are occasionally brought out and run
for special purposes. They still work, meet all applicable
requirements, and are technically
on the active roster - but in reality they're museum pieces.

And the main point remains: Sailboats make up far less than 1% of the
US military
fleet.

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 16:14:33 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


wrote


They're floating museum pieces.


In your dreams, landlubber! Just a couple of examples for you.....

The USS Constitution, homeported at Boston, is a commissioned US Navy ship (in
fact the flagship of the US Navy) with a full active duty crew of sailors. Not
a museum (the museum is across the street from her berth).

bull****

she may have an active duty crew but NO ONE IS ever going to allow to
to sail into into battle

It might have a carbide cannon for signalling.

The USCG Barque Eagle, homeported at the Coast Guard Academy in Connecticutt, is
a working training ship, used in training future seagoing officers.

73, de Hans, K0HB




everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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"Old Ironsides" is a museum piece. A fully operational museum piece that
actually sails every few years, but a museum piece nonetheless. Her main
functions are educational and historic, not military.

Her "main function" is to serve as the Flagship of the Navy. That's a military
function, not a "museum" function. Certainly she also serves as a "history
lesson incarnate", but that is not her "main" function. If it were, she'd be
property of the National Park Service, not the Department of Defense.

And to answer the comment of Clown Prince of Spamalot (aka KB9RGZ), many US Navy
ships are not intended to "sail into battle" (a quaint phrase, but it reveals
your ignorance of military matters). YTB's tugs don't "sail into battle",
DSRV's don't "sail into battle", AD's don't "sail into battle", AOE's don't
"sail into battle", AS's don't "sail into battle", ATB's don't "sail into
battle", ARS's don't "sail into battle", in fact CVA's don't "sail into battle",
and no, the USS Constitution will not "sail into battle", but she's still a
fully commissioned ship of the line in the US Navy.

The USCG Barque Eagle, homeported at the Coast Guard Academy
in Connecticutt, is a working training ship, used in training future
seagoing officers.

Does she go out on search and rescue?

Probably not, but I'm sure she teachs some of the elements of SAR. Navigation
is a big part of her training mission, and you can bet that includes things like
plotting an expanding-squares search pattern, calculating set and drift, and
other topics useful in real world SAR operations. Regardless of that, not all
USCG ships "go out on search and rescue". Some go out an tend bouys. Some go
out and break ice. Some go out on training missions. Etc., etc., etc.

Or is her purpose mostly historic and educational?

Very little "historic" about the Eagle. Her purpose is a training ship for
Coast Guard Midshipmen. That's just as much a "purpose" as SAR.

And the main point remains: Sailboats make up far
less than 1% of the US military fleet.

Nobody is trying to argue that point, are they? By the same token, CVA's make
up a tiny percent of the US military fleet also, as do ARS's, AOE's, DSRV's,
LPH's, and a host of other types. Doesn't make their mission any less
important, or relegate them to "nothing more than museum pieces".

Ding ding, ding ding, ding ding, ding ding. Eight bells and all's well.

de Hans, K0HB

The Clown Prince of Spamalot wrote:

The USS Constitution, homeported at Boston, is a commissioned US Navy ship (in
fact the flagship of the US Navy) with a full active duty crew of sailors.
Not
a museum (the museum is across the street from her berth).

bull****

No bull****, Mark. Every word is absolutely true.

Sunuvagun!

de Hans, K0HB