On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:34:30 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


The Clown Prince of Spamalot wrote:

The USS Constitution, homeported at Boston, is a commissioned US Navy ship (in
fact the flagship of the US Navy) with a full active duty crew of sailors.
Not
a museum (the museum is across the street from her berth).

bull****

No bull****, Mark.
absolutely bull**** Han The USS Constitution, is moremore a
functioning naval vessal than the USS Arizonia

Every word is absolutely true.

being true does not prevent something from being bull**** han

Sunuvagun!

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Clown Prince of Spamalot wrote

absolutely bull**** Han The USS Constitution, is moremore a
functioning naval vessal than the USS Arizonia

In case it escaped your attention, Mark, all the sailors now serving on USS
Arizona are deceased and it is designated as a military cemetary. It was
stricken from the rolls of the registry of US Naval vessels in 1942.

The USS Constitution is designated as the Flagship of the US Navy. It is
commissioned as an active ship in the US Navy and carries a crew of about 45
active duty officers and enlisted ranks.

Sunuvagun!

Sorry to spoil your ignorant claim. (Well, actually I'm HAPPY to spoil your
ignorant claim.)

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:49:13 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


Clown Prince of Spamalot wrote

more fraud from hans

absolutely bull**** Han The USS Constitution, is moremore a
functioning naval vessal than the USS Arizonia

In case it escaped your attention, Mark, all the sailors now serving on USS
Arizona are deceased and it is designated as a military cemetary. It was
stricken from the rolls of the registry of US Naval vessels in 1942.

no it is hasn't

indeed it was my point

the USS Constitution is no more a warship than the Arizonia


The USS Constitution is designated as the Flagship of the US Navy. It is
commissioned as an active ship in the US Navy and carries a crew of about 45
active duty officers and enlisted ranks.

so what it is no warship not even realy a support ship

Sunuvagun!

Sorry to spoil your ignorant claim. (Well, actually I'm HAPPY to spoil your
ignorant claim.)

well then you need to in fact spoil a claim
Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB





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he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

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WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:31:36 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


wrote



"Old Ironsides" is a museum piece. A fully operational museum piece that
actually sails every few years, but a museum piece nonetheless. Her main
functions are educational and historic, not military.

Her "main function" is to serve as the Flagship of the Navy. That's a military
function, not a "museum" function. Certainly she also serves as a "history
lesson incarnate", but that is not her "main" function. If it were, she'd be
property of the National Park Service, not the Department of Defense.

And to answer the comment of Clown Prince of Spamalot (aka KB9RGZ), many US Navy
ships are not intended to "sail into battle" (a quaint phrase, but it reveals
your ignorance of military matters). YTB's tugs don't "sail into battle",
DSRV's don't "sail into battle", AD's don't "sail into battle", AOE's don't
"sail into battle", AS's don't "sail into battle", ATB's don't "sail into
battle", ARS's don't "sail into battle", in fact CVA's don't "sail into battle",
and no, the USS Constitution will not "sail into battle", but she's still a
fully commissioned ship of the line in the US Navy.

so but the USS Constitution serves NO military function can't even
truly serve as a flag unless they have finaly instaled a radio on
board

all she does is serves as a floating relic of that bygone era


The USCG Barque Eagle, homeported at the Coast Guard Academy
in Connecticutt, is a working training ship, used in training future
seagoing officers.

Does she go out on search and rescue?

Probably not, but I'm sure she teachs some of the elements of SAR. Navigation
is a big part of her training mission, and you can bet that includes things like
plotting an expanding-squares search pattern, calculating set and drift, and
other topics useful in real world SAR operations. Regardless of that, not all
USCG ships "go out on search and rescue". Some go out an tend bouys. Some go
out and break ice. Some go out on training missions. Etc., etc., etc.

Or is her purpose mostly historic and educational?

Very little "historic" about the Eagle. Her purpose is a training ship for
Coast Guard Midshipmen. That's just as much a "purpose" as SAR.

And the main point remains: Sailboats make up far
less than 1% of the US military fleet.

Nobody is trying to argue that point, are they? By the same token, CVA's make
up a tiny percent of the US military fleet also, as do ARS's, AOE's, DSRV's,
LPH's, and a host of other types. Doesn't make their mission any less
important, or relegate them to "nothing more than museum pieces".

Ding ding, ding ding, ding ding, ding ding. Eight bells and all's well.

de Hans, K0HB









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he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

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WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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Clown Prince of Spamalot wrote:

the USS Constitution serves NO military function

Pay attention Mark. I'll type slow so you can keep up.

The Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) is the senior military officer of the
Department of the Navy (that makes him a military officer).

The CNO is a four-star admiral (that makes him a military officer) and is
responsible to the Secretary of the Navy for the command, utilization of
resources and operating efficiency of the operating forces of the Navy (that
makes him a military officer).

A member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the CNO is the principal naval adviser to
the President and to the Secretary of the Navy on the conduct of war (that makes
him a military officer), and is the pricipal adviser and naval executive to the
Secretary on the conduct of activities of the Department of the Navy (that makes
him a military officer).

This high ranking military officer has as his flagship the USS Constitution.
Can't get much more "military" than that.

Ding ding, ding ding. Four bells and all is well.

de Hans, K0HB

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:00:30 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


Clown Prince of Spamalot wrote:

the USS Constitution serves NO military function

Pay attention Mark. I'll type slow so you can keep up.

The Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) is the senior military officer of the
Department of the Navy (that makes him a military officer).

so he can't do his job form there

The CNO is a four-star admiral (that makes him a military officer) and is
responsible to the Secretary of the Navy for the command, utilization of
resources and operating efficiency of the operating forces of the Navy (that
makes him a military officer).

A member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the CNO is the principal naval adviser to
the President and to the Secretary of the Navy on the conduct of war (that makes
him a military officer), and is the pricipal adviser and naval executive to the
Secretary on the conduct of activities of the Department of the Navy (that makes
him a military officer).

This high ranking military officer has as his flagship the USS Constitution.
Can't get much more "military" than that.

as a show

Ding ding, ding ding. Four bells and all is well.

de Hans, K0HB




everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders

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he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:00:30 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:


Richard Cranium wrote

And so what? By posting the name and address of others is this supposed to
cause them to cower in a corner?
You and others of your ilk are, what to say? Dickheads? Anal apertures?
Troll artists?

No call sign, no credibility? Only a dumbass adheres to this mindset.

wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:31:36 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:

wrote



"Old Ironsides" is a museum piece. A fully operational museum piece that
actually sails every few years, but a museum piece nonetheless. Her main
functions are educational and historic, not military.
Her "main function" is to serve as the Flagship of the Navy. That's a military
function, not a "museum" function. Certainly she also serves as a "history
lesson incarnate", but that is not her "main" function. If it were, she'd be
property of the National Park Service, not the Department of Defense.

And to answer the comment of Clown Prince of Spamalot (aka KB9RGZ), many US Navy
ships are not intended to "sail into battle" (a quaint phrase, but it reveals
your ignorance of military matters). YTB's tugs don't "sail into battle",
DSRV's don't "sail into battle", AD's don't "sail into battle", AOE's don't
"sail into battle", AS's don't "sail into battle", ATB's don't "sail into
battle", ARS's don't "sail into battle", in fact CVA's don't "sail into battle",
and no, the USS Constitution will not "sail into battle", but she's still a
fully commissioned ship of the line in the US Navy.

so but the USS Constitution serves NO military function can't even
truly serve as a flag unless they have finaly instaled a radio on
board

all she does is serves as a floating relic of that bygone era

Trying to explain anything to you is much like taking a Neanderthal Man
to a hardware store and expecting him to understand all that he sees.

Dave K8MN

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:04:38 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:31:36 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:

wrote



"Old Ironsides" is a museum piece. A fully operational museum piece that
actually sails every few years, but a museum piece nonetheless. Her main
functions are educational and historic, not military.
Her "main function" is to serve as the Flagship of the Navy. That's a military
function, not a "museum" function. Certainly she also serves as a "history
lesson incarnate", but that is not her "main" function. If it were, she'd be
property of the National Park Service, not the Department of Defense.

And to answer the comment of Clown Prince of Spamalot (aka KB9RGZ), many US Navy
ships are not intended to "sail into battle" (a quaint phrase, but it reveals
your ignorance of military matters). YTB's tugs don't "sail into battle",
DSRV's don't "sail into battle", AD's don't "sail into battle", AOE's don't
"sail into battle", AS's don't "sail into battle", ATB's don't "sail into
battle", ARS's don't "sail into battle", in fact CVA's don't "sail into battle",
and no, the USS Constitution will not "sail into battle", but she's still a
fully commissioned ship of the line in the US Navy.

so but the USS Constitution serves NO military function can't even
truly serve as a flag unless they have finaly instaled a radio on
board

all she does is serves as a floating relic of that bygone era

Trying to explain anything to you is much like taking a Neanderthal Man
to a hardware store and expecting him to understand all that he sees.

reealy? you think that?

then you are dumber than I thought



Dave K8MN

everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282


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wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 07:04:38 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 01:31:36 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:

wrote



"Old Ironsides" is a museum piece. A fully operational museum piece that
actually sails every few years, but a museum piece nonetheless. Her main
functions are educational and historic, not military.
Her "main function" is to serve as the Flagship of the Navy. That's a military
function, not a "museum" function. Certainly she also serves as a "history
lesson incarnate", but that is not her "main" function. If it were, she'd be
property of the National Park Service, not the Department of Defense.

And to answer the comment of Clown Prince of Spamalot (aka KB9RGZ), many US Navy
ships are not intended to "sail into battle" (a quaint phrase, but it reveals
your ignorance of military matters). YTB's tugs don't "sail into battle",
DSRV's don't "sail into battle", AD's don't "sail into battle", AOE's don't
"sail into battle", AS's don't "sail into battle", ATB's don't "sail into
battle", ARS's don't "sail into battle", in fact CVA's don't "sail into battle",
and no, the USS Constitution will not "sail into battle", but she's still a
fully commissioned ship of the line in the US Navy.
so but the USS Constitution serves NO military function can't even
truly serve as a flag unless they have finaly instaled a radio on
board

all she does is serves as a floating relic of that bygone era

Trying to explain anything to you is much like taking a Neanderthal Man
to a hardware store and expecting him to understand all that he sees.

reealy? you think that?

Reealy!

then you are dumber than I thought

That's odd. You're just about as dumb as I thought.

Dave K8MN