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From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 15, 6:25 pm

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:58:21 GMT, "K0HB"

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I haven't "posted a thing in here" for the simple reason this
newsgroup does NOT accept binaries.
Sure it does. See attached DD214 indicating over 21 years of active service,
rank of E9, and Honorable service. Set. Point. Match.

WHAT "attached DD214"?

BTW, Hansl, it is "Game. Set. Match."

That's also the title of a trilogy written by Len Deighton.


Anyway, this is not about you -- it's about Major Dud. Now if you and
I can post -our- DD-214's, why can't Dudly? I also see that you made
E-9 in about 19-1/2 years. I also see that the right side of the form
clearly denotes your time in service, as does mine, as does every
DD-214 since Socrates marched barefoot through the snow. So why do you
think Dudly didn't know about that? And if Dudly's claim -is- true
(which I highly doubt), why do you think he couldn't get promoted
beyond GySgt (E-7) in nearly the same amount of time it took -you- to
reach E-9?

Major Dud might be a ham, and you might share some similar beliefs
and/or opinions, but are those valid reasons to defend his fraudulent
military service?

Absolutely. U.S. Amateur Extras have to hang together.

Especially if they are morsemen...and hate NCTAs.

It must be an unwritten law or something wherein extras will
only slap the wrists of other extras who get out of hand.

For all the flag-waving and patriotic bunting installation
done by Hans, he has been most gentle on that fraudulent
Dudly the Imposter, the hero of "seven hostile actions."
All he has done lately is argue about the names of COMSEC
systems with Dudly.

What "fraudulent Dudly the Imposter", Len? What factoids have you
coughed up about Steve's military service? All you've done is wail and
gnash. You've done a lot of flailing but have offered up precisely zip.

Doesn't Hans realize that Dud is NOT showing a good face of
U.S. amateur radio to the public?

Heck, Len, *you* aren't showing a good face of the public to amateur radio.

If Hans wants to make like he is CNO berating his swabbies
about DD-214s, that still doesn't change the fact that I've
not only served Honorably but have several papers up on the
subject of radio communications on another website plus an
interview that was published in the Pacific Stars and Stripes.

You seem to have brought those thing up a time or twenty.

Major Dud hasn't published ONE thing about his active USMC
life, no forms, no documents, not even a snapshot. All he
has published now is the famous Booger shot of him in a
poopy suit at QRZ, in the "uniform" of the CIVIL Air Patrol.

So?

Dave K8MN

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From: on Dec 12, 3:17 pm
wrote:
From: on Dec 11, 10:06 am
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wrote:
From: on Dec 10, 1:14 pm
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From: on Dec 9, 6:28 pm
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wrote:

I'm finally getting the picture. Jim asks the question if it is
possible to "serve in other ways?"

You're finally beginning to catch on!

It's just a plain, simple question.

Not that HE served in other ways, mind you, but "other people may have
served in other ways."

No. The question is whether someone can serve our country
in ways other than military service.

W6TTB introduced his method in the 50's (that is, 1950's).

Farnsworth. Introduced his method in the 1950's, 110 years or so after
Morse, about the same time that the military and civilian world was
abandoning Morse.

Except he didn't invent it and never claimed to. You can find
descriptions
of his method at least as far back as Thomas Edison, who describes it
in his writing about how to learn the code (Edison was a telegrapher).

Farnsworth just popularized it and his name stuck. He was blind, btw.

The ARRL begins implementing Farnsworth w/o notice
in the late 80's, makes a public notice about 10 years later.

No, that's not how it happened at all.

W1AW code practice was using the Farnsworth method at least back to
1965, and probably even earlier. The 5, 7-1/2 and 10 wpm code practice
runs then and now were/are sent with Farnsworth spacing.

It's better than the callsign tattooed across the knuckles
of each hand...

Jim has tatoos?

Nope. Not a one.

"A Morse Code Exam would be a Barrier to Morse Code Use."

Who wrote that? I sure didn't.

On 15 Dec 2005 21:32:32 -0800, wrote in
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From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 15, 6:25 pm

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:58:21 GMT, "K0HB"

snip

I haven't "posted a thing in here" for the simple reason this
newsgroup does NOT accept binaries.

Sure it does. See attached DD214 indicating over 21 years of active service,
rank of E9, and Honorable service. Set. Point. Match.

WHAT "attached DD214"?


www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dd-214.jpg









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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:17:19 GMT, "KØHB"
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I've never seen any binaries attached to messages in this
newsgroup.

I can see them just fine. I can post them just fine (a .jpg file in this case).
Frank apparently can them just fine, because he commented about details which he
could not have known without actually seeing the binary file.


Your posts that included binaries never showed up on Google. That's
just one example of a filtered Usenet service like I was talking
about. Irrelevant now, since I have reposted your .jpg as a link.







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From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 16, 4:36 am

On 15 Dec 2005 21:32:32 -0800, wrote in
From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 15, 6:25 pm
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:58:21 GMT, "K0HB"


I haven't "posted a thing in here" for the simple reason this
newsgroup does NOT accept binaries.

Sure it does. See attached DD214 indicating over 21 years of active service,
rank of E9, and Honorable service. Set. Point. Match.

[the expression is "Game. Set. Match." Hans...from tennis]

WHAT "attached DD214"?

www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dd-214.jpg

Okay, got it. Thanks Frank.

I've believed Hans' service in the USN. I've believed yours.
I've believed Brian Burke's service. I've believed Bill Sohl's.
I've lived mine and have documents and hundreds of pictures to
prove it. My DD-214 copy is recorded with the County Recorder
of Winnebago, Illinois, something I did in 1956 as a resident
there at the time. shrug

Unfortunately for all those "who can see their attachments just
fine," several ISPs just don't carry attachments on all groups.
That's just the way it is.

We'll just have to wait it out while all the pompous misdirection
dies down on AMATEUR RADIO POLICY matters in this morseblog. :-)

In getting back to the nitty-gritty of who lies and who tells
the truth, all us readers have yet to see ANYTHING of Dudly
the Imposter's documents, pictures, whatever from his heroic
descriptions of being in "seven hostile actions." In case
anyone is wondering, Dudly the Imposter (aka "K4YZ") is an
amateur extra in the amateur radio service of the USA. We
readers haven't seen a thing of Dudly actually operating his
amateur radio station. All we get is the famous Booger Shot
of him in a CIVIL Air Patrol "uniform" on QRZ.COM.

Now, I'm rather convinced that Dudly wouldn't lie about his
CIVIL Air Patrol "rank" but then flying a single engine
aircraft doesn't have a helluvalot to do with AMATEUR RADIO.
Neither CAP nor his claimed USMC helicopter maintenance crew
"military experience" have anything to do with AMATEUR RADIO.

Jimmie Miccolis (who never served in any military) says that
Army RADIO on HF doesn't have anything to do with AMATEUR
RADIO on HF...despite the fact that all the physics pertaining
to RADIO generation and propagation are exactly the same...
despite the fact that high-power vacuum tube HF transmitters
of a half century ago generated and operated exactly the same
as vacuum tube HF transmitters do today. [that's just the
way it is]

Davie Heil (who supposedly served in the USAF and did get into
the Department of State of the USA..."he's from the government
and is here to help") is of the opinion that one MUST get an
amateur radio license before even thinking of posting in this
morseblog, let alone getting a (horrors) Commercial radio
license.

Lots of "conflicts" going on in here. Meanwhile, the FCC has
about 3,803 filings in WT Docket 05-235 to look through and
decide what will be the next major step in changed United
States amateur radio regulations that will affect NEWCOMERS
to amateur radio far more than the already-licensed.

The already-licensed-in-amateur-radio-in-highest-morse-class
apparently don't give a thing about the future of newcomers
as long as they don't upset their personal needs of rank,
status, title, and privilege. shrug

May the already-licensed-in-amateur-radio-in-highest-morse-
class enjoy the lump of coal in their Christmas stockings.
They can wear that with pride as they hobble down to the
lodge to sip their rum and tell tales of mighty morsemanship
derring-do of the old days.

bit bit

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 05:17:19 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote in . net:


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I've never seen any binaries attached to messages in this
newsgroup.

I can see them just fine. I can post them just fine (a .jpg file in this case).
Frank apparently can them just fine, because he commented about details which he
could not have known without actually seeing the binary file.


Hey Hans, I deleted the file like you asked in your email. But like I
said in my reply (that was blocked by your anti-spamware), what you
posted is now public information and is included in more than a few
Usenet archives, regardless of whether it's on my site or not.

IOW, if you don't want something made public then don't post it in a
public forum....... even Dudly understands -that- much.....!!!


Oh, and in the future, when you email someone, it would be a basic and
decent courtesy to put them in your address list so they don't have to
deal with some automated crap from your anti-spamware.









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From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 16, 4:36 am
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www.icehouse.net/wirenut/dd-214.jpg
now deleted, as per Han's request

Okay, got it. Thanks Frank.
snip
In getting back to the nitty-gritty of who lies and who tells
the truth, all us readers have yet to see ANYTHING of Dudly
the Imposter's documents, pictures, whatever from his heroic
descriptions of being in "seven hostile actions."


I looked for a shibboleth in his seven+ years of posts, but there are
none. I handed him a few and they bounced right off his thick skull. I
even set a couple traps and he got caught in both. Now he can't even
come up with the definition of "73".

Major Dud is a well-rounded (pun intended) bull**** artist..... er,
make that a -starving- bull**** artist.








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From: Dave Heil on Dec 15, 11:24 pm

wrote:
From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 15, 6:25 pm
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:58:21 GMT, "K0HB"


What "fraudulent Dudly the Imposter", Len?

The hero of "seven hostile actions" also known as "K4YZ."

What factoids have you
coughed up about Steve's military service?

Tsk, tsk, tsk. One can't prove a NEGATIVE, sweetums. :-)

Since Dudly can't offer any proof whatsoever of his "military
service," I say he's a damn LIAR about that.

If Dudly can prove his military service with some evidence,
fine. However, he's NOT done that in seven years.


You've done a lot of flailing but have offered up precisely zip.

"Attached" is a ZIP file showing Dudly's military service.

It's an easy download. File size is 0 bytes.


Heck, Len, *you* aren't showing a good face of the public to amateur radio.

Hello? I'm not *IN* amateur radio. You are the one gnashing
and crying and cursing about that... :-)

Oh, yes, YOU are the one who told me I should have gotten an
amateur radio license BEFORE I got my commercial radio license!

YOU are the one saying I don't have any business being in here
without a ham license!

Tsk. :-)


You seem to have brought those thing up a time or twenty.

For those of you who have great difficulty in understanding
that RADIO exists outside of amateurdom, it needs to be
repeated as often as required for understanding.

That's just the way it is...



Major Dud hasn't published ONE thing about his active USMC
life, no forms, no documents, not even a snapshot. All he
has published now is the famous Booger shot of him in a
poopy suit at QRZ, in the "uniform" of the CIVIL Air Patrol.

So?

So...what has the CAP to do with United States amateur radio?

Are hams supposed to have moustaches with boogers in them?

So...what have you said about your morsebuddy's famous claim:

"The FCC doesn't license amateur radio." ?

:-)

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Doesn't Hans realize that Dud is NOT showing a
good face of U.S. amateur radio to the public?


I'm not assigned Shore Patrol duty, so couldn't care less about
conduct-unbecoming-an-amateur. Not in my job description. Maybe Len has an old
MP brassard could patrol for good faces here?

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB

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[the expression is "Game. Set. Match." Hans...from tennis]


This is rec.radio.tennis.policy? Don't think so. But when it becomes that,
then I'll worry about tennis expressions.

Set. Match. FIRE!

(Don't yell "fire" in a crowded newsgripe!)

Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB