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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
Steveo wrote: Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: I has to do with getting a license to operate on ham radio. Something that seems quite beyond your capabilities. When are you going to attempt the test, no-call? \ Just renewed my license, no license boy. Riiiight. http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4702/commode2ie.jpg |
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Steveo wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: I has to do with getting a license to operate on ham radio. Something that seems quite beyond your capabilities. When are you going to attempt the test, no-call? \ Just renewed my license, no license boy. |
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From: K4YZ on Nov 17, 7:15 pm
wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio license. [inaccurate heilian imagination...] I still believe that Lennie had some "run-in" with an Amateur at some point. No doubt Lennie tried to bluff the other Amatuer into "signing off" on a Conditional or other such thing since he already professed to "know it all". Poor iggorant little Dudly. Sorry to bust your big balloon, but, other than doing some code practice in the early 1960s, I HAVEN'T BOTHERED to get any AMATEUR radio license. :-) If you wish to make a mountain out of a molehill, you can get some staffer at Newington to look into my correspondence with the late Vic Clark, then President of ARRL. That was in the late 1970s to 1980. That MIGHT be called a "run-in" but I'd say it was just the ultra-superior, don't bother me attitude of the League. It concerned a new movement to eliminate the morse code test for amateur radio. All those in-power 20 WPM Extras would have none of that! That movement would grow slowly until the FCC got convinced (against League wishes) that a no-code-test Technician class license got created. [see FCC 90-53 copy at www.nocode.org] "Amateur," not 'Amatuer." :-) His one and only attempt to get a license by deceit rebuffed, he's set upon a mission to undermine Amateur Radio at any and all opportunities. To hell with the mere mortals, HE was a PROFESSIONAL! Poor baby, mad as hell and can't take it anymore? :-) You think elimination of the code test is "undermining" amateur radio? I don't think so. Roughly half the U.S. amateur radio community doesn't think so (if the 0.6% of all licensees is a good sampling). Many Amateur Extras of long experience have accepted complete removal of code testing according to WT Docket 05-235 comments. "Professional?" Of course. I expect to get paid for my work. If that is some "ethical crime" then ALL the unions and guilds and trade organizations are "guilty!" :-) I've been a professional (getting paid for services done) since 1948...and that is on record at the IRS. "I EARNED my money the old-fashioned way...I WORKED for it!"] "Deceit?" Not with/to the government of the United States. Nope. Not even to the IRS. Been audited twice, no problems, just misunderstanding situations...one on my part, other on the IRS' part, both on professional deductions. That was settled amicably and all satisfied. Have I "deceived" any VE or any FCC Field Office? NO. I kept my First Phone renewed, a simple mail-in process, until and past the R&O changed all Commercial Radio- telephone operator licenses to the single General Radio- telephone Operator License (GROL). I applied for, and got, a Private Land Mobile Radio Service license for business purposes (a small partnership) and provided all the correct follow-on documentation for that until the business was dissolved (more paperwork). I applied for and got a CB radio license back when licenses were required, kept those renewed until another R&O removed any need for licensing. I did not need a Restricted 3rd Class Radio- telephone license (no test for those) to operate any commercial radio transmitters since my 1st Phone covered those, both for business purposes and as a student pilot back in the early 1960s. When I've operated commercial equipment, as once for RCA Corporation using borrowed NBC UHF radios, the appropriate signatures of officials were duly recorded on my current First Phone license. When I did some part-time work in AM and FM broadcasting, the back of the current First Phone was duly recorded by the Chief Engineer. I have NEVER taken any amateur radio license test with any FCC Field Office or VEC organization...nor have I tried to "deceive" anything in saying my experience is a substitute for testing. I am simply advocating an end to morse code testing for an amateur radio license examination. That YOU don't like that is not of my concern. That YOU lie and attempt to accuse me of lying IS of my concern. I try to put an end to it by showing your lies but all you do is generate more lies of your own. Have I taken ANY amateur radio license tests? Only the "practice variety," such as the practice test on www.qrz.com and a private, but widely circulated test set. Did I pass them? YES. Each element, each time. Were those "aced?" No. Scores were not exceptional but they were above the minimum level needed to pass. Questions on regulations were a weakness. Where the wrong answers were pointed out, I went back to the regulations to get them right in my mind. Have I resumed any "code practice?" No. I have three computer programs on that in my PC archives but have only used them long enough to see that they run. Do I need any fancy title to enhance my "braq quotionent?" No. I am secure in what I can do and what I can't do, have had a long time of operating radio transmitters legally (half century) on the EM spectrum from LF on through to 25 GHz. Amateur licensees can't go where I've been in the EM spectrum without holding a Commercial radio license or knowing the applicable regulations for that service where such transmission is permitted (such as private boat radios) without any license. Is a federally-supervised or VEC-supervised or COLEM-supervised morse code test "necessary" to "round out my experience." No. I do not consider morse code telegraphy to be useful for anything but hobby radio. I do not have the fantasies of greatness in radio through morsemanship, therefore the morsemanship is of no use to me in any way. Let those who enjoy the mode enjoy it...and NOT force newcomers to ANY radio service to learn it because of federal regulations requiring it. If YOUR fantasy of greatness is disturbed by the thoughts expressed above, that is YOUR problem to deal with, not mine. If you need your TS card punched, go to your minister, rabbi, chaplain, or witch doctor and have THEM punch it. Fork yourself, Dudly. You're done. |
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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: From: K4YZ on Nov 17, 7:15 pm wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio license. [inaccurate heilian imagination...] Inaccurate is quite right. I didn't right the paragraph above your *write* one-liner, Windy. Dave K8MN |
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![]() Poor, sad Lennie. His Relys runneth over yet again. Incontinence, north and south, seems to be his trademark. |
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From: Dave Heil on Nov 18, 6:11 pm
wrote: From: K4YZ on Nov 17, 7:15 pm wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio license. [inaccurate heilian imagination...] Inaccurate is quite right. I didn't right the paragraph above your one-liner, Windy. "Right," Man of La Mancha...:-) But Jimmie's prose is in the finest heilian tradition of Writing Rongs. :-) There you go. You can't be bothered. So what's with the amateur radio fetish, Len? Were you beaten with a Lightning Bug as a child? Sorry, Davie, you'll have to clean your own mirror above your computer...too many bugs on it. "Fetish?" :-) All for wanting to toss out an old, out-dated code test that isn't useful to anyone but some old farts like yourself? Oh, yes, I remember your EXCUSES for using "CW" on a TTY circuit in Africa someplace...you had to "synchronize" your TTY machines. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you wish to make a mountain out of a molehill, you can get some staffer at Newington to look into my correspondence with the late Vic Clark, then President of ARRL. I'm sure it is all neatly archived. They just need to grab the "Leonard H. Anderson" accordian folder. Tsk, I didn't bother to keep mine, went in recycling years ago. FCC 90-53 made it just the same. "One small step for code test elimination, one giant leap for Technicians." Did you know that both Tech classes together constitute almost HALF of all U.S. amateur radio license grants? True! So your ideas were dismissed and you've never gotten over it. I knew Vic Clark. He was a fine person. Of course he was. You've met everyone of note. They visit you at one of your embassies? :-) Vic Clark expired years ago, Davie. You say nice-nice about the long-ago dead? That's nice. It isn't exactly a civil rights movement, is it, Len? Did you guys stage a big march on Newington? Ohm my, aren't you the nasty fella? :-) "Newington" isn't the center of the universe. It isn't even the center of the hamiverse. What comes out of there is poesy of the good old days in hamme radddio...following in the nightly yellow footsteps of the Great One, "T.O.M." Sorry, lil Davie, but there was a "comment march" on Washington. 3,786 filings worth on WT Docket 05-235. The anti-code-test movement is gaining momentum. The year 2005 isn't 1935 anymore and fewer and fewer people are agreeing with the code-aholics. Try to learn to live with it. It's for your own good. You think elimination of the code test is "undermining" amateur radio? I don't think so. I think so and I'm *in* amateur radio. Then dig your barricades deep. When the bulldozers over- run you, more of your body parts will stay attached to your body. Roughly half the U.S. amateur radio community doesn't think so (if the 0.6% of all licensees is a good sampling). Roughly half? It looks like under half of the sampling. ROUGHLY HALF, lil Davie. Of course you are going to ARGUE your lil pointy nose off that Joe Speroni's BIASED (definitely pro-code) interpretations are some kind of super accuracy and "valid." They aren't, but he's a morseman extra and he's okay. :-) Are you an organization, Len? I was paid for my job. By the Department of State. You WERE from the government and were there to "help." Which may explain the bad image of the USA outside of our borders. I've been paid as a musician. Union or scab? [wanna see my AFTRA card? :-) ] I'm not paid as a radio amateur. No? Awwwwww.... I'm not paid as an amateur astronomer. Neither are you required to have ANY license to look at frequencies higher than 300 GHz...such as way, way up in light. :-) Does Palomar know about you? Does Schmidt help you? No, I don't think you need anything additional to brag about, Len. Davie, baby, "it ain't braggin' if ya DONE it. I done it." Remember who used that Dizzy Dean misquote in here first? You seem to do just fine the way things are. Quite right, La Manchie... You might want to brush up on spelling if you want to include that in your "braq quotionent". YESSIR, Mr. Herr Robust! I vill do as you kommand! I vill WRIGHT all my RONGS! [just like you did] The things you are unable to do--you're secure in them? Absolutely. Tsk, tsk, there are so many NEW things coming up, things that weren't here before, that there's PLENTY of new stuff to explore, to experiment with, to fool around with. Looks like your "braq quotionent" is doing fine. HAY La Manchie, Ise doing lak ya said, tryin' ta WRITE mah RONGS. You gotsa prollem wid dat? There's a nip in the air and the winter winds are gusting, Len. Ooooo...you're RIGHT, OAT got down to mebbe 60 F tonight! Stand here by the lodge hall window. Good lord, WHY? I had lunch at Guild Headquarters today, nice fellowship there. Food was okay. I don't belong to any "lodge," sweetums. Haven't done that drunken bit down at any VFW Lodge. Use your tattered jacket sleeve to wipe away some of the condensation. Oh, oh...you've been cribbing your ill-literations from old Reader's Digest magazines, haven't you? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! Some of the fellows are standing by the fireplace. The flames dance and the pleasant scent of burning oak lingers in the room. A couple of fellows are discussing their DXCC totals on Top Band. Look--four of the members are sipping their hot buttered rum and laughing. By golly, I think one of them mentioned "Anderson". I think they mean *you*, Len. Not me, sweetums, they tawkin 'bout Anderson PowerPole connectors for their mo-bile rigs. Judas H. Priest, you lay those ill-literations on so thick that the lowest-grade Associate Editor at Boys' Life would yank it out of the slushpile and toss it in the circular file muy pronto. Dinna wurra, laddie, Boys' Life magazine will send you a nice, polite form-letter REJECTION. Forget the Digest. Enquirer doesn't go for THAT kind of syrupy, sloppy prose; I know a free-lancer who does sell to NE. Maybe you could try the poetry journals...don't know much about them. "Fireplace?" "Burning oak leaves?" Mid-afternoon OAT (that's Outside Air Temperature to you ground-bound earthlings) got to 82 F today. Be about the same tomorrow. Gotta cut the lawn tomorrow but that will be easy with my cordless electric Craftsman mower (made by Black & Decker). You poor, ignored blighter. You're still standing out in the cold and looking in. I guess you showed us. Sorry, you're thinking of Val Germann. He's been an unmodified Tech for over three years. [my micro-fiber jacket isn't tattered, you've got the wrong guy...] I was hangin' with some NBC West Coast Hq types at lunch. We weren't talking about hamme raddddio. HDTV and remote pickup trucks and some new graphics imaging came up like the Oscars show and other events to be done in wide-screen. Lookin' good in the neighborhood. You got any DTV-compatible TVs, lil Davie? Nice stuff there on cable TV service. Comcast has two cable channels for nothing but wide-screen TV, lovely imagery, looks wonderful on the 27" LCD flat-panel we just got. Saw "Alias" and "CSI" in wide-screen last night (Thursday). Great stuff. Action and drama. Recreation! Enjoyment! Nah...you don't want that "crap," do you? You and your rum- sipping buddies gotta grin about "pioneering the airwaves" with "CW" and making all those point scores. Keep up the wunnaful, wunnaful vurk on DX...I hope your Orion can reach the Dakotas to pay amateur tribute to Law-rence the box- squeezer. "Ay vun an a too..." :-) Watch out on too much rum-sipping, old-timer. Follow the mathematician's warning: "Don't drink and derive!" Fork yourself, Dave. You're done. |
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wrote:
From: on Thurs 17 Nov 2005 18:36 Dave Heil wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Here, Len uses emoticons and SHOUTS by using all capitals. His submissions to FCC are full of italics, bold text, and numbered footnotes. using italics in filings on Dockets at the FCC? Your comments look childish, Len. Over the top, flamboyant, trying to get attention by style rather than substance. But of course you never say something in three words when three hundred will do. I remember Len referring to FCC Chairman Powell as "Mikey". As if he'd actually address Mr. Powell that way.... No problem with me, I'm not afraid of authority. It's not about fear. Some months back, Len mentioned here that he had once, way back in the 1950s, actually, the early 1960s set about learning Morse Code. Claimed he'd actually gotten up to about 6-8 wpm or so before deciding all the 'hard work' wasn't worth it. That was just about the time 27 MHz cb came along, and he jumped on that. Other way around - he was on cb first. No, no, NO, Jimmie, MUCH lower in frequency than that...somewhere around 9 MHz if memory serves. Was in early February 1953, using a BC-339 1 KW transmitter. Built, paid for, and installed by others. In his own words, he just "GAVE UP". Oh, you mean "did I give up" on learning more morse code? Yes, I did. Roughly six years later in California I gave up on bothering to continue learning morse code. Sure - beccause it took too much time and effort on your part. It was hard work for you, and you thought it was not worthy of your time and effort. think that a "crime?" No. You made your choice - you "GAVE UP". Of course he does. He's a religious zealot MORSEMAN! A proselyte for the Church of St. Hiram. Nope. Not at all. Your point may be valid but I learned the Morse Code in the Scouts, before I had any idea of becoming a ham. The fellow who taught it did it right. There was no counting of dots and dashes. He linked the letter sounds to groups of words like "here comes the bride" for "Q". It wasn't work; it was fun. Brushing up my code a couple of years later before taking the Novice exam wasn't any work either. I learned it by listening to hams using Morse Code on 80 meters. I first had to build myself a receiver, though. Bully bull bull to Davie for being a Scout. And to Jimmie Noserve for "building his own receiver!" Did you ever build a working receiver, Len? Such advanced teen-agers! Actually, I wasn't a teenager when I built the receiver I used to learn Morse Code - I was 12 years old. I built my first receiver, a simple AM BC set, when I was 10. Did you both get nice, pretty merit badges? No. The receivers were their own reward. Basically, it comes down to the fact that Len thinks he's too good to have to learn Morse Code - or anything else - for an amateur radio license. Basically, Jimmie boy, you are full of snit. I don't see any point in learning what was ONCE the only way to communicate in radio in order to get an AMATEUR license. That's fine, Len. Then you don't get the license and you're not a radio amateur. Works for me. And you've just verified what I said - you think you are too good to have to learn Morse Code. Not worth your time and effort. Tsk, tsk...you forget (conveniently and whenver possible) that I'd already operated transmitters (note plural) on HF many years before. No, you didn't *operate* them. You were a technician, following the direction and supervision of others. Somebody told you to put transmitter A on frequency B using antenna C and connect it to incoming line D, and you (actually about three technicians) did that according to a prearranged procedure. That's certainly experience but it's not amateur radio experience. And the FCC does not consider it as qualification to operate an amateur radio station. Want to see them? Already did. Here's a link: http://sujan.hallikainen.org/Broadca...s/My3Years.pdf "my 3 years" - as if the place was all about you. You might want to tell the United States ARMY on your demand that all radio operators must get an amateur radio license FIRST. No demand, Len. You're very mistaken about that. After all, it's been possible to get a Technician class license without a code test for more than 14 years. All FCC-issued amateur licenses have been available for just a 5 wpm code test for 15 years now. THIRD MAJOR MISTAKE in one posting! FCC 99-412 ordered all morse code test rates for radio amateur licenses to be fixed a 5 words-per-minute beginning in 2000. That was only FIVE years ago. Not "15." Medical waivers. Back in 1990, it became possible to obtain any class of FCC-issued amateur license with just a 5 wpm code test. All it took was 5 wpm for Novice and Technician, and 5 wpm plus a medical waiver for General, Advanced and Extra. A medical waiver simply required a letter signed by a doctor (M.D. or D.O.) stating that the person found it difficult to learn Morse Code well enough to pass the test. No specific ailment or disability need be named, and the problem didn't have to be permanent. Your irrational reactions here prove that Morse Code testing - and the Morse Code itself - have an intense psychological effect on you. That irrationality could have gotten you a medical waiver easily. |
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