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Old November 19th 05, 03:22 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
 
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Hello? Can we say Davie is also pompous and arrogant?


You just did, Len.


I third that motion.

Nope. Extra Morsemen are allowed any kind of personal insult
against others while all NCTA have to be "kind," "gracious,"
and "civil" to them. :-)


Actually, it's the other way around.


I see it differently.

Using my RIGHTS as a citizen.


As are all of us who filed comments.


So what's your problem?

Tsk, tsk, Extra Morsemen want
NCTAs to abrogate their citizenship rights. Not good.


Also not true.


So what's your problem?

Yep, as Hans Brakob has pointed out on a number of occasions, Len is the
organ grinder; you are the red-hatted monkey.

Hans the Dump Huck caller?


Once more, Extra Morsemen think they have civility immunity.


I guess phrases like "shut the hell up, you little USMC feldwebel" are
Len's idea of civility.


I guess calling people the phonetic equivalent of "Dumb ****" meets
with your aproval?

I'm only retired from REGULAR HOURS. :-)


So you're irregular, huh?


Jim making an insult?

Just finished a contract
job trying to find a better way to protect against tin dendrites
in consumer-grade PCBs made with lead-free solder. We found a
slightly-better way that had already been done, but no cheap way,
sad to say.


In other words, you FAILED, Len....


RoHS failed humanity.

In case anyone has been on the Outer Planets in the past decade,
the Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) is THE thing in
electronics production now.


We know, Len.


Multiple personality disorder "we," or papal "we," or royal "we?"

Problem is, without the lead in
conventional solder, tin will grow tiny, tiny "whiskers" (called
tin dendrites) that can short out circuit traces.


Yep.

Happens long
after production soldering. Can't use a simple meter like the
old standard Simpson 260...too much ohmmeter current...blows
open the dendrite and desposits it back on the traces.


Awww....

You're missing the bigger problem.

The reason for all the concern with hazardous substances in electronics
is because of their effect on the waste stream. "Modern" consumer
electronics are usually not designed to be easily or economically
repairable, so if something fails it is usually replaced rather than
repaired. Worse, the rapid changes in technology have resulted in a
large volume of working-but-outdated electronics (mostly computers)
being discarded rather than recycling.

Rather than trying to recycle and reuse, the regulators are trying to
stop the problem at the source. A bad solution, but you'd think the
PROFESSIONALS would have seen that one coming....


Regulators are not "PROFESSIONALS." They know nothing of the
environment nor electronics. And I've never seen Jim testifying on
CSPAN. Serves in other ways.

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Dave Heil wrote:
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K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
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We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.
Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).

Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.

73,

Dave K8MN


Just amazing!!!

I forget you on a list of A-1 Ops, and you play 18 rounds of guessing
games with declarations that I'm wrong.


You had a different kind of list, didn't you? Didn't yours read, "K8MN
is not an A-1 Op" or something to that effect?

Jim leaves you off of his list
and you pop right up and provide the information.


Who says the PCTA double-standard isn't alive and well?


You go right on playing the little red-hatted monkey. Jim's list wasn't
an attempt at an insult and he apologized in advance for anyone left
off. Did you do that? Was your list an attempt at an insult?

I guess the only other thing this shows is that Dave is a pretty
forgettable guy.


I disagree, Brian. I'd say it shows you as a little red-hatted monkey
with a chip on his shoulder. You're nothing but consistent.

Dave K8MN

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Dave Heil wrote:
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K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
KØHB wrote:
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We have NOT seen where any other radio amateur has
ever "worked" him on the amateur bands.


Is that the papal 'we' or the royal 'we'?


Third option:

In 'phone operation, some hams and others refer to themselves
as "we" on the air. As in "We were listening on 3885 last night
and heard the Timtron trying out a new PW rig" or "Yes,
Claude, we saw the new Annihilator 2000 at Dayton but frankly
it's really just a repackaged Pulverizer 1000 costing 50% more"
and such.

Morse Code operators never use the plural to refer to themselves
alone.

When pressed for a reason to use the plural, some respond that
"we" refers to 'the station and the operator', thereby
anthropomorphizing the rig to degree that is rather extreme.

So perhaps Len is referring to himself and his radio when he
uses the term 'we'. IOW, when Len wrote:

"We have NOT seen"

he was referring to himself and his classic, compact Johnson.

HyperLog extract station K0HB
(SNIP) Thanks again, Hans.

Log extract K8MN ARRL SS Phone:
(SNIP) You too, Dave.

Has anyone worked Lennie and his "Part 15 rig" yet? N0IMD?
KB9RQZ?

Nope.

Let's see, of current and past rrap posters, I have worked:

K4YZ
K0HB
W4NTI
WA2SI
W3RV
W0EX
W6RCA/W5DXP
AC6XG
KE3Z

using various amateur bands and modes. Mostly HF CW, but also VHF FM.

Also personally met W3RV and W1RFI.

(apologies to any I've forgotten).


Apology accepted. You worked the K8MN FD operation from here a few
years back and we worked during SS CW in 1980.


DOH! Sorry, Dave! There's probably a couple more I've worked, too, such
as AT4ST (Arnie) and K3LT.

---

Say, your imagery of the lodge hall reminded me of these classic lines
of prose:

"The fire in the shack of the .....radio station burned low and
conversation lagged. .....Lazy, feathery flakes, beginning at midnight,
had changed to a fine, peppery mist swirling in from the north, and the
wind moaned down the chimney in icy cadences."

"...was the chief operator and and wore sterling crossed bars of chain
lightning on the shoulder of his navy blue jersey. There was no greater
this side of Heaven..."

"Five minutes passed with only the wind, the old clock, and the keying
relay breaking the silence."

"....and touched the knob timidly. The shadow scale above it moved
slightly. How easily it turned! Encouraged, he moved it a little more.
A faint hiss which had begun to evidence itself in the dynamic speaker
was at that instant ripped asunder by a kaleidescope of crisp,
bell-like signals..."

"Thousands of miles of black, tumbling ocean intervened. Outside, the
two great towers, outlined irregularly in white, rose up and up into
the swirling snow; downstairs the input reactors sang monotonously in
the ghastly glow of the rectifiers......imparted a dull radiance to the
the polished edges of the neutralizing condenser discs. All were
waiting, ready to hurl the dynamite."

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Dave Heil wrote:
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K4YZ wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


Say, your imagery of the lodge hall reminded me of these classic lines
of prose:

"The fire in the shack of the .....radio station burned low and
conversation lagged. .....Lazy, feathery flakes, beginning at midnight,
had changed to a fine, peppery mist swirling in from the north, and the
wind moaned down the chimney in icy cadences."

"...was the chief operator and and wore sterling crossed bars of chain
lightning on the shoulder of his navy blue jersey. There was no greater
this side of Heaven..."

"Five minutes passed with only the wind, the old clock, and the keying
relay breaking the silence."

"....and touched the knob timidly. The shadow scale above it moved
slightly. How easily it turned! Encouraged, he moved it a little more.
A faint hiss which had begun to evidence itself in the dynamic speaker
was at that instant ripped asunder by a kaleidescope of crisp,
bell-like signals..."

"Thousands of miles of black, tumbling ocean intervened. Outside, the
two great towers, outlined irregularly in white, rose up and up into
the swirling snow; downstairs the input reactors sang monotonously in
the ghastly glow of the rectifiers......imparted a dull radiance to the
the polished edges of the neutralizing condenser discs. All were
waiting, ready to hurl the dynamite."


Thanks for recognizing J.C.'s style in my stuff. 'Twas intentional.

73,

Dave K8MN

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