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Just finished another annual running to the two-weekend Sweepstakes contest (one
weekend Morse, one weekend phone). As many of you know, this contest simulates traffic handling protocols with a modestly challenging exchange with 5 information elements exchanged in each direction. One of those elements is a "check" which is a 2-digit number indicating the year the station was first licensed. (This doesn't have any direct connection to the age of the operator, but it does tell you how long they've been licensed.) During this years contest weekends I was struck by the higher incidence of "recent checks" in the phone event as compared to the Morse event. Since I have Cabrillo logs available for the past 5 seasons of Sweepstakes, I did a quick Excel evaluation looking at the "newcomer" trend of the Sweepstakes contest. The total data population is right at 10,000 QSO's, so should be reasonably "statistically relevant". My intent was to test my hunch about a higher tendency for recent licensees to be on phone, and that hunch proved true (no particular surprise), but in addition a much scarier trend rose out of the figures. The numbers below show the percentage of my QSO's which had a recieved "check" in the current and 10 previous years (i.e., this year I counted "95" thru "05", last year "94" through "04", etc.) (Tabular info best viewed in 'fixed width' font) Year CW% Phone% Combined% 2001 7.4% 24.0% 17.5% 2002 6.9 18.8 13.5 2003 7.0 14.8 10.9 2004 4.5 14.0 8.7 2005 4.0 14.0 9.9 As I mentioned, it's no surprise that newcomer contesters are more likely to be on phone, but the really scary part is that the overall percentages (regardless of mode) in the "licensed-in-the-last-10-years" are dropping so dramatically, almost halved in just 5 years. If the trend of "newcomers active in contesting" is a representative subset of "newcomers active on the air in general" (as I suspect it is) then the future of our hobby has a rather disturbing look. What are we (all of us) going to do to reverse this ominous trend? -- 73, de Hans, K0HB -- Homepage: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb Member: ARRL http://www.arrl.org SOC http://www.qsl.net/soc VWOA http://www.vwoa.org A-1 Operator Club http://www.arrl.org/awards/a1-op/ TCDXA http://www.tcdxa.org MWA http://www.w0aa.org TCFMC http://www.tcfmc.org FISTS http://www.fists.org LVDXA http://www.upstel.net/borken/lvdxa.htm NCI http://www.nocode.org |
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![]() "KØHB" wrote in message ink.net... What are we (all of us) going to do to reverse this ominous trend? Sign them all up for the Legion. That way you will have a bigger audience for your war stories Hans. 73 from Vince Folcarelli Italian Ham Op Club Little Italy |
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![]() KØHB wrote: Just finished another annual running to the two-weekend Sweepstakes contest (one weekend Morse, one weekend phone). cut The numbers below show the percentage of my QSO's which had a recieved "check" in the current and 10 previous years (i.e., this year I counted "95" thru"05", last year "94" through "04", etc.) (Tabular info best viewed in 'fixed width' font) Year CW% Phone% Combined% 2001 7.4% 24.0% 17.5% 2002 6.9 18.8 13.5 2003 7.0 14.8 10.9 2004 4.5 14.0 8.7 2005 4.0 14.0 9.9 As I mentioned, it's no surprise that newcomer contesters are more likelyto be on phone, but the really scary part is that the overall percentages (regardless of mode) in the "licensed-in-the-last-10-years" are dropping so dramatically, almost halved in just 5 years. If the trend of "newcomers active in contesting" is a representative subset of "newcomers active on the air in general" (as I suspect it is) then the future of our hobby has a rather disturbing look. One I suspect you are wrong few newcomers I know of and by the standard you are using I am one still are that interested in contesting, personaly I looks at and tend to chuckle I also hear the tales of the that try and get flamed for not "doing it right" as if the flamers was born with this knowledge or receieved it as a implant What are we (all of us) going to do to reverse this ominous trend? inventing better contests might be a start -- 73, de Hans, K0HB -- |
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![]() "an old friend" wrote inventing better contests might be a start I was more interested in activity in general, not just contests, but hey, that's a fair comment. What would make a "better contest" for you, especially as it would relate to newcomers? What features of current contests interest you and what features annoy you? What would you add that would cause you to send in a log? 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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![]() KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote inventing better contests might be a start I was more interested in activity in general, not just contests, but hey,that's a fair comment. What would make a "better contest" for you, especially as it would relateto newcomers? less cookie cutterness a contest where the exachance was to in fact say something. I mean I do FD becuase it is club thing mostly but I feell silly going aroing around saying 8A MI What features of current contests interest you and what features annoy you? little about the current contests (those that I am aware realy interests me, FD holds the most appear but with the imporvised nature of the setup What would you add that would cause you to send in a log? maybe a contest where the points were on how long you were able to hold a contact how much airtime you were able to fill with a near stanger just some thoughts 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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![]() "an old friend" wrote maybe a contest where the points were on how long you were able to hold a contact how much airtime you were able to fill with a near stanger Be interesting to see how you could set up the scoring matrix...... If it was simply length of contact (not the amount of information exchanged) then the real slow talkers/slow senders would win. A built in advantage for southerners! Would you have an upper limit on a contact length, and would the scoring be linear...... for example 1 point per each 30 seconds of each contact, or hockey-stick scoring with 1 point for 30 seconds, 5 points for one minute, 100 points for five minutes, and a bazzilion points for an hour? What would you use for multipliers? The thought occurs that newcomers are often somewhat mic-shy --- would they be drawn to this kind of activity? 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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![]() KØHB wrote: "an old friend" wrote maybe a contest where the points were on how long you were able to hold a contact how much airtime you were able to fill with a near stanger Be interesting to see how you could set up the scoring matrix...... If it was simply length of contact (not the amount of information exchanged) then the real slow talkers/slow senders would win. A built in advantage for southerners! Would you have an upper limit on a contact length, and would the scoring be linear...... for example 1 point per each 30 seconds of each contact, or hockey-stick scoring with 1 point for 30 seconds, 5 points for one minute, 100 points for five minutes, and a bazzilion points for an hour? What would you use for multipliers? The thought occurs that newcomers are often somewhat mic-shy --- would they be drawn to this kind of activity? 73, de Hans, K0HB Hans I suspect that many newcomers are intimidated by the action in contests like SS. They know they have no realistic expectation of winning. The efforts like participation pins may help a bit. Again looking at SS the first hours are quite frantic and top contesters give the exchange very fast. If a newcomer isn't quite sure what was said or what he must say they are not likely to respond. I have heard some operators patiently explain what the exchange is and help a first timer. However this appears to be a relative rarity as it slows down the rate. How about an incentive for the big scorers to work the newcomers? More points per QSO if the check is less than 5 years old? More points if the serial number is also below a certain threshhold? If it makes the big guns more likely to be helpful I thin it would encourage those that are a bit timid to join in. Also, can the contest logs be used to get credit toward ARRL awards like WAS the way it used to be for DXCC? Given the cost of QSLs and the return rate, that could also be an incentive for some newcomers. BTW - How did you do? 73, John K4BNC |
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![]() "KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... ///////FLUSHED/////// Hey Hans. How much is a Shot 'N Beer down at the Legion Hall now? I hear the war stories spin faster and better, after a few shot 'n beers. |
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![]() "John" wrote How about an incentive for the big scorers to work the newcomers? More points per QSO if the check is less than 5 years old? I really LIKE that one! The contest sponsor would need to validate it however, or operators would adopt an artificially low number just to generate a run. More points if the serial number is also below a certain threshhold? I'm not sure that one is workable ..... everyone starts out with serial #1, and the object is to rapidly increment that number so this would be a disincentive to do well, even to the newcomer (unless I don't understand what you propose). Also, can the contest logs be used to get credit toward ARRL awards like WAS the way it used to be for DXCC? Given the cost of QSLs and the return rate, that could also be an incentive for some newcomers. In effect this is already in place. I uploaded my log to LoTW 10 minutes after the close of SS PH and already had close to 50 QSL's waiting for me. Right now LoTW supports just DXCC, but WAS and WAZ are next (soon) to be implemented. BTW - How did you do? Not as well as I'd hoped. 773/79 on CW and 1043/80 on Phone weekend. Phone weekend was especially frustrating, because conditions seemed so good. Don't know what I did wrong, but just couldn't ratchet it up to the right level. First few hours were OK (not great) with rates in the 70's, but then struggled with long bands until about midnight. Couple good hours on 40 after midnight, but not enough stations left to recover from the slow evening hours. Had a pretty good Sunday afternoon on 40 starting about 2000Z, but I think I was paying too much attention to my "half radio" (Drake R4C) looking for missing mults. Ended up about 400 Q's off my target. May be time to look at a new radio. I know I'm missing a lot of weak stations on my run freqs, especially on 40M/80M. The Icom 775 attenuator doesn't seem to be any good on those bands, and consequently the front end folds up with a lot of strong adjacent RF. When N0AT, KT0R, NN7L, K0AD (all within a couple miles) stroke up on 80M you could power an amp by rectifying the RF off my antenna field! 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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![]() KØHB wrote: "John" wrote How about an incentive for the big scorers to work the newcomers? More points per QSO if the check is less than 5 years old? I really LIKE that one! The contest sponsor would need to validate it however, or operators would adopt an artificially low number just to generate a run. More points if the serial number is also below a certain threshhold? I'm not sure that one is workable ..... everyone starts out with serial #1, and the object is to rapidly increment that number so this would be a disincentive to do well, even to the newcomer (unless I don't understand what you propose). Probably not clearly stated and hard to implement. I was thinking of someone with a small number for the time since contest started. That is, some way to encourage working those who might just be making occasional contacts. Also, can the contest logs be used to get credit toward ARRL awards like WAS the way it used to be for DXCC? Given the cost of QSLs and the return rate, that could also be an incentive for some newcomers. In effect this is already in place. I uploaded my log to LoTW 10 minutes after the close of SS PH and already had close to 50 QSL's waiting for me. Right now LoTW supports just DXCC, but WAS and WAZ are next (soon) to be implemented. LOTW goes part way but I think the old DXCC method was even simpler although it took longer. Once the contest results were published you could just claim credit for a station worked in the contest. However as I recall the number you could claim per DXCC submission was limited unlike LOTW. It sure helped me back in the days when I was chasing DXCC QSLs. BTW - How did you do? Not as well as I'd hoped. 773/79 on CW and 1043/80 on Phone weekend. Phone weekend was especially frustrating, because conditions seemed so good. Don't know what I did wrong, but just couldn't ratchet it up to the right level. First few hours were OK (not great) with rates in the 70's, but then struggled with long bands until about midnight. Couple good hours on 40 after midnight, but not enough stations left to recover from the slow evening hours. Had a pretty good Sunday afternoon on 40 starting about 2000Z, but I think I was paying too much attention to my "half radio" (Drake R4C) looking for missing mults. Ended up about 400 Q's off my target. May be time to look at a new radio. I know I'm missing a lot of weak stations on my run freqs, especially on 40M/80M. The Icom 775 attenuator doesn't seem to be any good on those bands, and consequently the front end folds up with a lot of strong adjacent RF. When N0AT, KT0R, NN7L, K0AD (all within a couple miles) stroke up on 80M you could power an amp by rectifying the RF off my antenna field! 73, de Hans, K0HB Still a good score. I had troubles with the 40M vertical on Saturday night. SWR had gone up so high I couldn't use the amp. FIxed it next morning. AS far as I can tell the guy mowing the nextdoor lawn must have run into the posts holding up the coax and broke the ground connection. Still managed to make some contacts with it. Made my goal here of 80 in 80. Last one was VE2; that one always seems to be the hard one here. John |
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