On 10 Jan 2006 03:41:01 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
On 8 Jan 2006 05:49:23 GMT, (Jeffrey Herman)
wrote:
wrote:
BTW as a abeleiver in motivation is all why is it that you only made
CPO not some officer rank...(SNIP)

Well, I'm #8 on this year's list for SCPO (E-8) but I'm considering
submitted my package for Warrant Officer. Never could go full officer
due to the age cutoff.

in part is becuase in your eagerness to flame me you did not bother
reading the exchange Jeff was the one claiming that motivation was
everything

It certainly is. Motivation will take you as far as you can possibly
go, but it certainly can't overcome such barriers as age cutoffs.
Motivation also can't create more openings for a particular position
than already exist. If X motivated people are competing for Y openings
of a position, and Y X, then some of those motivated folks won't
win. Because they're motivated, those that lose will try again
next time.

that is what you said sir you said the only rason for deifferences in
education level and other things was motivation changing you story,
now you adknow that isn't

Was that a sentence or a paragraph?
yes

Was there a meaning to it?
yes

This is proof that given a typewritter and opportunity, even a
monkey can bang out a few "words".
so

my point is made you are not telling the truth

Your point is that you did nothing of the sort.

nope my point was and remains that Jeff was lying when he started this
motivation thread


Now, last I checked, there were no age barriers for advancing in
amateur radio, nor were there any limitations on the number licensees
in any particular class. So, those that are motivated will advance;
those that aren't, won't.

now you claim only age limits are valid

Uhhhhhhh...Markie...?!?!

He specifically said "...there are no age barriers for advancing
in amateur radio..."

so

So WHY did you insist in the very next "sentence" you wrote that
he said something different?

I insisted no such thing?

you lied there Steve


when are you going to wake up and smel what you are shoveling

Perhaps because all the shovelling is being done at your house,
Markie.
nope you lied again

Jeff is the one talking **** here
claiming theat motivation is the all there is as a factor then
shoveling all the **** about i"t no no that isn't what I(jef) said"
..And Jeff doesn't impress me as being the kind to "go slumming"
in his free time.

well there you are wrong

any time spent in RRAP is sluming


I feel as if I'm teaching a first-grader common-sense facts.

you may feel that way t what you are doing is lying

And you're perpetuating your reputation as an idiot by making such
assinine statements.

nothing assine there

another lie

therefore your statement is more proper at proving that Jeff is not a
memebr of the armed forces

You apparently don't realize that the USCG is the only armed force
outside of the DoD.

you are assuming sir incorrectly as you were incorrect in your
earlier stament that motivation is everything which you now back pedal
to motvation is everything escept...

More random words seeking organization and meaning.\

another lie nothing rnadom at all


cuting the off topic rant

What was "off topic" was your reply vis-a-vis Jeff's last
comments.
nothing of topic about my coments

what was off topic was a elcture on the coast gaurd whcih was jeffs
divertion


(UNSNIP)...or for that matter why was
your motivation only enough to be a lecurer, not a full professor or
even dept head of Mathematics??


It's a long story, but suffice it to say that I used up my seven
years in the PhD program (that's all that's alloted), so ended up with
just the masters degree.

Motivation can't overcome seven-year time
limits

meaning motiation isn't everthing and you lied when you said it was

That's not what he said.

it what what he said

Had you acutally obtained the education YOU claim, Markie, you'd
know that in most cases any classwork applied toward a doctorate level
program has a window of application. Exceed the window and the old
work is no longer applicable.

indeed that is true whcih proves my point

that Jeff lied when claimed motivation was the only difference cuasing
people to have differenteeducational level. it isn't as he know say
there are several other

therefore He Motivation is all premise is a lie


. That's all I'll say about that, for I know you're baiting
me, and I know better than to bite.

meaning you are not honest to deal with that fact you have put out a
statement as tture with at best lots of holes

More meaningless words.

nope


Indeed you have bitten enough

Coming from you, Markie, I am sure that was meant to be a
compliment.

then you are a fool but we knew that

your claim that Motivation is sole difference in educational levels
you yourself have just admitted is not true

No, he did not.

yes he did but in materail long since snipped from the thread


why not be a man and admit you mispoke

Then he WOULD be lying.

nope it would be telling the truth

Still no 73 for you,

ty I find the use the terms offisive

I am sure you do...what ever "offisive" means...

more mindless bashing

you realy are unable to read

Steve, K4YZ

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K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

Steve, K4YZ

More projection.

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

It's "Brian."

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

On 14 Jan 2006 10:36:00 -0800, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

It's "Brian."

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

dud you catch here where he said he get the posts he wants in rsponse?

mean he wanted to use his daughter name etc, since he claims he is in
control

but if he is in control the respoblity is HIS

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

yes that has

he claimed I deserved

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

and stve did not like it

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

as I said I will try to bring down the house rather than leave it as
Steve own personal abuse chamber

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

or they lack the abilty to step aside form their feeling for awhile
and give you the treatement you give others


You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

very efective indeed, disagreeable but effective

that Only thing I don't unstand is how steve can keep it up all these
years without stroking out or uffering some other complete colapse

He can't be human in any meaningfull sense

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

indeed Steve is clearly a student of Herr Geobels (or a student of one
his student)

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wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
On 4 Jan 2006 14:51:01 -0800, wrote:

well said

It needs said.

Steve is a rotten SOB who puts on a squeekie clean appearance for CQ
magazine and QST.

We KNOW better.

All YOU know, Brainie,

is that you are a bullie and a liar.

Projecting again, Brain. Projecting!

It's "Brian."

Is it?

Why don't you sign your posts like a man and show us all, Brain?

is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

No explanation was necessary.

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

How is it despicable? Markie has proudly boasted of perverted
sexual and other personal preferneces, and did at one time indicate a
prediliction for forceful sex, domineering relationships.

Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

Your on-going defense of him shows me (and the rest of the NG)
yours.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him. His response was to go on the
aforementioned tirade.

I've asked YOU why you insist on suggesting that others act one
way and then do it yourself.

You've answered with YOUR silence.

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

You're here. What's YOUR excuse?

Where's YOUR "meaningful debate" or "thoughtful
intercourse"...?!?!

Where are the answers to questions put ot you YEARS AGO on
subjects you thought you'd never be challenged on, yet can't seem to
get past...?!?!

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

Perhaps they won the lottery. Perhaps I'm not the only one that
they have a "problem" with.

MOST LIKELY is that this NG has accomplished exactly SQUAT, even
when there was "meaningful intercourse".

On the otherhand, one of my pieces in this forum was a featured
article in Worldradio magazine (for which I was paid a fee, however I
returned it uncashed). My comments are routinely quoted in "CQ"
magazine. Myself and several other regular posters appear in various
"CQ" quotes on a semi-frequent basis.

And we have YET to see "N0IMD" in ANY such role. Not even a
mention as a "slim" in any DX journal during "Restore Hope". Nor do we
see KB9RQZ, N9OGL, Frankie of Silliland nor Lennie the Loser.

You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

You better redirect credit where credit is due...To your "brother"
in California.

With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

See what? (Step away from the mirror and try again, Brain...You're
confusing yourself....)

Steve, K4YZ

On 15 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
cut
is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

Your remarks, "Raped and old friend" have yet to elicit a explanation
from you.

No explanation was necessary.

Asking why you could post anything that despicable brings only silence
from you.

How is it despicable? Markie has proudly boasted of perverted

Proudly boasted? how did I do this?

after some of the barbarian (including yourself) went digging around
and reposted materail that I am not ashamed (just never thought they
belonged her) I admknowledged them and we tried to go

but you keep making a big deal of so I defend my right to be and to do
what I wish amoug consetning adult

if that is "Boasteing"
sexual and other personal preferneces, and did at one time indicate a
prediliction for forceful sex, domineering relationships.

so what? I like dominating sex amoug consenting adults

that is not rape

and it does not cover Mark morgan caught on tape....

why do you post despticble thing about

ywhy do you lie about them the health of their families


Real "issues" are not
discussed nor "debated" in this "forum".

Thanks to your fueding with every-damned-body, there very, very little
room for actual civil discussion. Thanks a lot.

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

self denefsen is a mnetal defect

ok so you think so

Your on-going defense of him shows me (and the rest of the NG)
yours.

If you need THAT much room, then perhaps you need to pare down
your rhetoric a bit.

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him.
no you have not

you lied

saying that you not bring it iI did not does not answer why you
brought it up in the first place
His response was to go on the
aforementioned tirade.

I've asked YOU why you insist on suggesting that others act one
way and then do it yourself.

becuase he does not

you do

explain yourself it my job or bb to explain your behavour

You've answered with YOUR silence.

what was your question?

And my "arguments" are pretty well narrowed down to you and your
Feeble Five bretheren. I can communicate effectively, if not outright
get along with, everyone else here fairly well.

Hmmm? Bill Sohl left. Few others are active. Best of luck
communicating effectively with "everyone else."

You're here. What's YOUR excuse?

what exucse does he need

Where's YOUR "meaningful debate" or "thoughtful
intercourse"...?!?!

ghe has particated in every on topic thread int he NG as theycoame
with disrupting them

as I have I

you havebn't indeed you have tried (and many cases suceeded in
disputed such threads


Where are the answers to questions put ot you YEARS AGO on
subjects you thought you'd never be challenged on, yet can't seem to
get past...?!?!

they will be answered after you answer yours no doubt

But then most of the rest of the folks here don't see fit to
attack me or to lie in order to get a point across.

Perhaps they think you're not worth the trouble. Others are just tired
of your nonsense.

Perhaps they won the lottery. Perhaps I'm not the only one that
they have a "problem" with.

prehaps

MOST LIKELY is that this NG has accomplished exactly SQUAT, even
when there was "meaningful intercourse".

perhaps



On the otherhand, one of my pieces in this forum was a featured
article in Worldradio magazine (for which I was paid a fee, however I
returned it uncashed). My comments are routinely quoted in "CQ"
magazine. Myself and several other regular posters appear in various
"CQ" quotes on a semi-frequent basis.

so what?

And we have YET to see "N0IMD" in ANY such role. Not even a
mention as a "slim" in any DX journal during "Restore Hope". Nor do we
see KB9RQZ, N9OGL, Frankie of Silliland nor Lennie the Loser.

a lie steve

your self complented me on something in CQ VHF


You and your "brothers" have yet to master that.

There is always your model. Mark has found it very effective.

You better redirect credit where credit is due...To your "brother"
in California.

nope len is not my model you are steve


With the lies and innuendo
bestowed by you and your bretheren, it's nye-on impossible.

Projection.

Nope. Not a bit.

And what YOU "know" fits in a thimble, and leaves room for
seconds.

More projection.

Nope. Careful obeservation, evaluation, assessment and summation.

Steve, K4YZ

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

See what? (Step away from the mirror and try again, Brain...You're
confusing yourself....)

npe you are projecting it i quite to claer everyone but you and dave

Steve, K4YZ

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wrote:
On 15 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

self denefsen is a mnetal defect

What's "denefsen"...?!?!

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him.

no you have not

Sure I have.

you lied

Nope.

On the otherhand, one of my pieces in this forum was a featured
article in Worldradio magazine (for which I was paid a fee, however I
returned it uncashed). My comments are routinely quoted in "CQ"
magazine. Myself and several other regular posters appear in various
"CQ" quotes on a semi-frequent basis.

so what?

Pretty much shows that most of your arguments are false.

And we have YET to see "N0IMD" in ANY such role. Not even a
mention as a "slim" in any DX journal during "Restore Hope". Nor do we
see KB9RQZ, N9OGL, Frankie of Silliland nor Lennie the Loser.

a lie steve

Nope.

your self complented me on something in CQ VHF

Did I?

Let's see it.

If you're going to lie about yourself, you might as well make it a big
one. And I see you have.

See what? (Step away from the mirror and try again, Brain...You're
confusing yourself....)

npe you are projecting it i quite to claer everyone but you and dave

Since it's everyone EXCEPT you that seems to be "getting it",
Markie, it's apparent that this is one MORE issue that's getting away
from you.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
On 15 Jan 2006 07:03:18 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:

There's an almost unlimited amount of bandwidth here, Brain.

Indeed. Mark showed you that.

What Mark "showed me" had nothing to do with bandwidth and
everything to do with his mental defect, Brain.

self denefsen is a mnetal defect

What's "denefsen"...?!?!

Mark has asked why you need to comment on a person's sexual orientation
in an amateur radio newsgroup. He has also asked you to eliminate your
comments on people's sexual orientation in an amateur radio newsgroup.

He has. And I answered him.

no you have not

Sure I have.
nope you have never posted anything about why you brought it concerning
me and Todd and Frank

On 14 Jan 2006 06:54:04 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
cut
is that you try to lie and deceive in this
forum and I won't let you get away with it.

You assume that you have control over other people. You do not.

But I do.

I respond to your comments. You respond in turn. I know that
certain comments will elicit certain responses from you. It works.

then according to wat you typed there everything I said or done in
here is repsonse to waht you wanted and that it was under your control

this stament would mean that you have no case a for suit (but we
already knew that) and cleary that you want RRAp to exist in the sewer

you are in control of us you claimed it, therefore the result are
exactly as you wish

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