Sal M. Onella wrote:
I am quite sure that they all got their tickets with CW
required. And the problem stations on 75 are quite the same. Which
also proves nothing either way.

it does prove that CW testing is at best poor proof of screening out
bad ops

There's no test for one important ham skill: typing.
I asked around and found this practice is far from rare; I'm not sure
"common" is the right word, though.

We also might want to test for basic language skills, including punctuation.
why?

why do do we want to restrict the numer of hams in that manner

While it's not always true, the disagreeable transmissions (and NG posts)
often make the speakers/writers sound pretty ignorant.

On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:15:39 -0700, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:




I am quite sure that they all got their tickets with CW
required. And the problem stations on 75 are quite the same. Which
also proves nothing either way.

it does prove that CW testing is at best poor proof of screening out
bad ops

There's no test for one important ham skill: typing. I didn't appreciate
how important it is until I learned that one of my pro-Morse buddies does
all of his sending with a computer. (He can send with a key but doesn't
know where his is.) He says he copies with the computer, too, although he
can follow along with the audio.

I asked around and found this practice is far from rare; I'm not sure
"common" is the right word, though.

We also might want to test for basic language skills, including punctuation.
While it's not always true, the disagreeable transmissions (and NG posts)
often make the speakers/writers sound pretty ignorant.

In that case how about testing for personality traits as well as
anti-social and anti-authoritarian behavior? :-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

I asked around and found this practice is far from rare; I'm not sure
"common" is the right word, though.

You really need to type if you run cw over about 60wpm
or so.. That was about my limit as far as sending fairly clean
with a paddle. I never liked to type, so 55-60 wpm pretty much was
the limit for me. Most all the high speed people used a keyboard
to send. But I'd say the majority listened with their ears instead
of using a reader. The brain is a better reader than most puter CW
programs. Most don't handle noise very well. Once I hit 55-60 wpm
on a paddle, I was stretching the limits. Past that, and it was pretty
dang ugly... Slopsville. The keyboards could kick back and type
about any CW speed with perfect sending. A decent typist can go
over 100 wpm+.
MK

Slow Code wrote:
I predicted and warned you all this would happen, but none of you wouldn't
listen.

If none of us wouldn't listen, doesn't that mean that
all of us did listen?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Slow Code wrote:




I predicted and warned you all this would happen, but none of you wouldn't
listen.

None of us WOULDN'T listen? That means we all did, which is a lie...I
never heard your prediction before.



On the bright side, there's a lot more ham gear on eBay you can bid on.

But...what good does having a bunch of gear if there is nobody to talk
to or listen to? I guess it's good if you're starting a radio museum...


sc

On the bright side, there's a lot more ham gear on eBay you can bid on.


But...what good does having a bunch of gear if there is nobody to talk
to or listen to? I guess it's good if you're starting a radio museum...


Actually there is less of the good stuff on eBay than there was 2 years
ago. Plus prices for the rare stuff still keeps going up.

**Please note the date of these numbers - this is a delayed repost from
early April, 2006**

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of April 2, 2006:

Novice - 25,614 (3.9%) [decrease of 23,715]
Technician - 278,690 (42.3%) [increase of 73,296]
Technician Plus - 40,534 (6.1%) [decrease of 88,506]
General - 133,682 (20.3%) [increase of 21,005]
Advanced - 72,819 (11.0%) [decrease of 26,963]
Extra - 107,768 (16.4%) [increase of 29,018]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,224 (48.4%) [decrease of 14,964]

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 314,269 (47.7%) [increase of 22,351]

Total all classes - 659,107 (decrease of 15,685)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Who Cares?

wrote:
**Please note the date of these numbers - this is a delayed repost from
early April, 2006**

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
did you have a point in reposting these out dated number jim or just
trolling?

These are the numbers of current, unexpired
amateur radio licenses held by individuals
on the stated dates, and the percentage of
the total number of active licenses that
class contains:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329 (7.3%)
Technician - 205,394 (30.4%)
Technician Plus - 128,860 (19.1%)
General - 112,677 (16.7%)
Advanced - 99,782 (14.8%)
Extra - 78,750 (11.7%)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254 (49.5%)

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 291,209 (43.2%)

Total all classes - 674,792


As of June 1, 2006:

Novice - 25,083 (3.8%) [decrease of 24,246]
Technician - 280,995 (42.7%) [increase of 75,601]
Technician Plus - 38,704 (5.9%) [decrease of 90,156]
General - 133,169 (20.2%) [increase of 20,492]
Advanced - 72,179 (11.0%) [decrease of 27,603]
Extra - 108,140 (16.4%) [increase of 29,390]

Total Tech/TechPlus - 319,699 (48.6%) [decrease of 14,585]

Total General/Advanced/Extra - 313,488 (47.6%) [increase of 22,279]

Total all classes - 658,270 (decrease of 16,522)

Note that these totals do not include licenses
that have expired but are in the grace period.

They also do not include club, military, RACES
or other station-only licenses.

Note also that effective April 15, 2000, new
Novice, Technician Plus and Advanced licenses
are no longer issued.

Since April 15, 2000, FCC has renewed all existing
Technician Plus licenses as Technician. It is therefore
informative to consider the totals of the two classes,
since the Technician class includes a significant
number of Technician Plus licenses renewed as
Technician.

73 de Jim, N2EY