On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:19:04 -0700, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:

Anybody who can't pass the minimal 5 WPM doesn't deserve a license.

That's needlessly insulting.

No, it's a statement of historic fact, as determined by the licensing
authorities. But it's incorrct -- anyone who can't copy 5 wpm deserves a
license, but it's Citizen's Band.

A further valid statement would be that anyone with an IQ approaching 100 can
learn to copy 5 wpm. That's less than one character every two seconds, which
gives tons of time to recognize and write the single character before the next
one begins. Dyslexia cannot apply, unless it is dyslexia that affects the
remembered dot/dash pattern of a single character.

-- Larry

you have fun with fine go for it
Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the
ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do
something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it

nonproductive? yet somehow saying "get help" 1000 times is a valuable use
of time?

Gravity


I expect the same however for myself

/s/ DD, W1MCE

gravity wrote:
you have fun with fine go for it
Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the
ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do
something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it

nonproductive?
yes non productive
yet somehow saying "get help" 1000 times is a valuable use
of time?
not in and of itself

but to bury the filth posted about me yes it is and it takes very
little time indeed I have the process almost automated

Gravity

an old freind wrote:
Dave wrote:
SNIPPED

Poor Markie, so bitter that kids can pass morse code tests and he is
too stupid to pass one.


NO! Don't label another person! It is wrong to label! Particularly when you do
not know any of his/her life's circumstances.

It's obvious that Markie is a retard.

Wismen labels everybody except himself of course

Marky labels everybody Wismen since he is so ****ing stupid and sees
Wismen everywhere!


I still say, anyone who can learn an/the alphabet can learn Morse Code. For
those with difficulty, the solution to the issue is teaching METHODs not the
student's difficulty. Any alphabet is recognizing sound patterns. Words are
simply combinations of sound patterns.


Just look at Markie's posts, He can't learn the alphabet.
He can't post in anything resembling English.


For 'an_old_friend' I would begin by teaching an alphabet of SOUND PATTERNS. No
requirement for speed. Just focus on sound patterns. Keep it very simple. Each
two hour lesson would focus on no more than 7 letters until well heard. Then
move to SOUND PATTERNS that are close to or similar to those [s]he has learned
and is mastering. [Example: learn the sound patterns for 'A', 'W', and 'J'
repeat until they are instantly recognized. Then move on to 'N' 'D', 'B', etc.
Don't count 'dots' or 'dashes' but hear sound patterns.]
prehaps you are trying to be helpfull

you are coming off insulting and condesnding
that metodalogy was tried and my ears lose the older set of patterns
in a few day before I get a hold of the next set


Face it, you are too stupid to learn morse code.


Having said all this, my defense of CW is not any legal requirement. It is
simply the best way to work rare DX. Much less power required. Much less
bandwidth required. Much more discernible [copyable] in a pile. And, it is fun!

fun for you the migraine headaches I get listening to any of it is not
fun none enjoys pain on that level

You have nothing in your empty skull to give you headaches, Markie!

yes I might be ableto learn well enough now with only a receive or
tranmited test (and if I were going to try it would be to send) so I
don't have to listen to it

you have fun with fine go for it
Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the
ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do
something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it

I expect the same however for myself

More excuses, loser?

an old freind wrote:
gravity wrote:
you have fun with fine go for it
Bear in mind I think Mose and esp the attiudes around are bad for the
ARS but I support your freedom to disagree and even to just do
something I consider nonproducitve just for sheer joy of it

nonproductive?
yes non productive

Only because you are too stupid and lazy to learn it.

yet somehow saying "get help" 1000 times is a valuable use
of time?
not in and of itself

but to bury the filth posted about me yes it is and it takes very
little time indeed I have the process almost automated

Markie comes up with a rationalization of his spamming. Too bad it's
like him, seriously flawed.

wrote:
an old freind wrote:
Dave wrote:
SNIPPED

Wismen labels everybody except himself of course

Marky labels everybody Wismen since he is so ****ing stupid and sees
Wismen everywhere!
wismen lying some more


I still say, anyone who can learn an/the alphabet can learn Morse Code. For
those with difficulty, the solution to the issue is teaching METHODs not the
student's difficulty. Any alphabet is recognizing sound patterns. Words are
simply combinations of sound patterns.


Just look at Markie's posts, He can't learn the alphabet.
He can't post in anything resembling English.
which means you must agree I can't learn morse and the poster is in
error thank yopu
now run along and get help you little troll

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in
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"gravity" wrote in message
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5 WPM is easy.

Nonsense.

Tell us you can do it --- tell us your mangy hound dog can do it, but
steer clear of the blanket statements. It isn't easy to one who can't
do it.


When code goes away, you're going to be the one that tells us the written
is too hard.

sc

Cecil Moore wrote in
.com:

gravity wrote:
i have an idea. get rid of the CW and triple the difficulty of the
written test. there is certain element of society, which needs to be
kept out of the HF spectrum.

How about just requiring a scientific/technical
degree from an accredited university?

That's kind of funny but you know, I could actually agree to that. An EE
degree gets you a licence. You're certainly qualified. :-)

SC

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:42:03 -0400, Dave wrote:


I like CW! It is most likely going away as a requirement. I'm sad at this.

Amateur radio will change as a result. Everything changes. Hopefully the changes
will be positive.

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Don't be sad my friend. CW will survive if people find it useful, and
especially if the diehards will stop jamming it down people's throats.

News flash: People don't like that with CW or anything else! :-)

73, Bill W6WRT
20 wpm extra, licensed 49 yrs

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:01:14 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

When I got my driver's license in 1952, the driving test
was required to be taken on a stick shift vehicle. Do
you think that should still be a requirement?

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Of course not. Today's driving test should require making a left turn
while dialing a cell phone and sipping a Starbucks.

Bill, W6WRT