A necessary preface.....

(It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery. Even
the Usenet newsgroups dedicated to the cause have degenerated
into a hotbed of abusive onslaughts by those who ought to know
better; the Nugatory Numpties who boast of an interest
exceeding 10, 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years and yet who have
proved themselves incapable of even meeting the trivial exam
standards set for 6-year-olds. However, there still exists
the fundamental basis on which Ham Radio is based, and
that will never die. This FAQ ("What Is Ham Radio?") will
be regularly published and will not be shouted or bullied
down. It is important that those of a technical bent, who
are the natural seed-corn of Radio Hammery and who
gravitate towards us to be the real novitiate, can
still find us, (and know that we are still here), their fellows.)

-----ooooo-----

So,.....What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind.

Ham Radio is not CB Radio and has no common ground with it!
Ham Radio is _THE_ technical pursuit for gentlemen; CB Radio
is the operating hobby for those who buy their rigs and
equipment off the shelf.

-----ooooo-----

If you are the sort of person who is motivated by
a technical interest in how things work; if you took apart
malfunctioning clocks, toasters and the like and put them
right despite never having seen them working, then
a Ham Radio licence is your traditional route! There has
never been a shortage of such people, and those who gravitate
towards such an interest have always been welcomed into
our shacks and their interests fostered. There is not today,
nor has there ever been, a need to go out and encourage
and press children, children who have never expressed an
interest in Ham Radio, to come into our shacks. Such an
activity should cause eyebrows to be raised - what
normal well-adjusted adults seek the social acquaintance
of children?!

-----ooooo-----

Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_
to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity! (If you find
otherwise, then perhaps you are already classing yourself in the
mediocre groups of those who are criticised in the FAQ and from
whom we _MUST_ dissociate? If so - it's never too late for
a re-taxonomisation on your part - there's nothing elitist about
us, and we welcome all those who are prepared to put themselves
out in order to join our ranks!)

Oops! Spelling now correct!

Confused wrote:
A necessary preface.....

(It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery. Even
the Usenet newsgroups dedicated to the cause have degenerated
into a hotbed of abusive onslaughts by those who ought to know
better; the Nugatory Numpties who boast of an interest
exceeding 10, 20, 30, 40 or even 50 years and yet who have
proved themselves incapable of even meeting the trivial exam
standards set for 6-year-olds. However, there still exists
the fundamental basis on which Ham Radio is based, and
that will never die. This FAQ ("What Is Ham Radio?") will
be regularly published and will not be shouted or bullied
down. It is important that those of a technical bent, who
are the natural seed-corn of Radio Hammery and who
gravitate towards us to be the real novitiate, can
still find us, (and know that we are still here), their fellows.)

-----ooooo-----

So,.....What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind.

Ham Radio is not CB Radio and has no common ground with it!
Ham Radio is _THE_ technical pursuit for gentlemen; CB Radio
is the operating hobby for those who buy their rigs and
equipment off the shelf.

-----ooooo-----

If you are the sort of person who is motivated by
a technical interest in how things work; if you took apart
malfunctioning clocks, toasters and the like and put them
right despite never having seen them working, then
a Ham Radio licence is your traditional route! There has
never been a shortage of such people, and those who gravitate
towards such an interest have always been welcomed into
our shacks and their interests fostered. There is not today,
nor has there ever been, a need to go out and encourage
and press children, children who have never expressed an
interest in Ham Radio, to come into our shacks. Such an
activity should cause eyebrows to be raised - what
normal well-adjusted adults seek the social acquaintance
of children?!

-----ooooo-----

Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_
to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity! (If you find
otherwise, then perhaps you are already classing yourself in the
mediocre groups of those who are criticised in the FAQ and from
whom we _MUST_ dissociate? If so - it's never too late for
a re-taxonomisation on your part - there's nothing elitist about
us, and we welcome all those who are prepared to put themselves
out in order to join our ranks!)

"Confused" wrote in message
oups.com...
(major snippage)
That's absolute bull****. I build and modify my own CB equipment. I know of
hams that don't even know ohms law much less how to build equipment. I see
lots of off the shelf ham gear for sale proving that your post is nothing
more that propaganda. You perpetuate the myth that CBers are too stupid to
obtain a license, you are wrong.
You post this to continue the rift between hams and CBers, fine by me, many
CBers become hams, others like myself avoid it due to closed minded thinking
like yours. Maybe if hams openly welcomed CBers into the fold instead of
constantly insulting us, the ham radio hobby will survive. Instead the CBers
will sit back and laugh as the FCC sells off your bandwidth to the highest
bidder. We DO have a common ground, you just refuse to see it.

DrDeath wrote:

I know of
hams that don't even know ohms law much less how to build equipment.

In the UK they have an M3 callsign....

You perpetuate the myth that CBers are too stupid to
obtain a license,

In the UK, he's not far wrong most of the time....

You post this to continue the rift between hams and CBers, fine by me,

Fine by me too!

Maybe if hams openly welcomed CBers into the fold instead of
constantly insulting us,

Don't hold your breath on that happening any time soon!

Instead the CBers
will sit back and laugh as the FCC sells off your bandwidth to the highest
bidder.

Well, considering the original poster posted with a .co.uk e-mail
address (where he lives as he constantly pollutes the uk.r.a group), I
would like to see the FCC trying to sell off the spectrum in the UK!!!!!

know code wrote:
Well, considering the original poster posted with a .co.uk e-mail
address (where he lives as he constantly pollutes the uk.r.a group), I
would like to see the FCC trying to sell off the spectrum in the UK!!!!!

The FCC no longer control the radio spectrum in the United States
either. See http://www.watleyreview.com/2004/102604-2.html

"Mike G4KFK" wrote in message
ps.com...

know code wrote:
Well, considering
Well considering that the U.K.is the U.S.A.'s lap dog, when the spectrum is
sold here it will also be sold there.

Besides, it will be a great day when the code is dropped......the rush of
the dumb CB'er onto the bands will be funny as hell to watch.Couldn't happen
to a finer bunch of assholes.



--
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"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:14:01 -0500, "DrDeath"
wrote:

That's absolute bull****. I build and modify my own CB equipment.

Then you are unashamedly breaking the law.

73 de G3NYY

Shirley only if he hooks it up and attempts to use it? He never said
anything about using it.

Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Graham, 26-Golf Charlie-19 (www.open-channel.co.uk)

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:14:01 -0500, DrDeath wrote:
You post this to continue the rift between hams and CBers, fine by me, many
CBers become hams, others like myself avoid it due to closed minded thinking
like yours. Maybe if hams openly welcomed CBers into the fold instead of
constantly insulting us, the ham radio hobby will survive. Instead the CBers
will sit back and laugh as the FCC sells off your bandwidth to the highest
bidder. We DO have a common ground, you just refuse to see it.

Most hams welcome CBers and it is only a few which don't. As a show
of good will, I am inviting all CBers who have 2M gear or who have
signed up for echolink to go ahead and use my repeater at 146.835 MHz
or to use the K9GO-L link with echolink. Don't worry about a call, or
else use the designated guest call of W4NTI to get on. No real ham
would use that call and that's why we use it for guest ops.

Enjoy.

Tood, NO9GL

"Jim S." wrote in message
...

"Mike G4KFK" wrote in message
ps.com...

know code wrote:
Well, considering
Well considering that the U.K.is the U.S.A.'s lap dog, when the spectrum
is sold here it will also be sold there.

Agreed.


Besides, it will be a great day when the code is dropped......the rush of
the dumb CB'er onto the bands will be funny as hell to watch.Couldn't
happen to a finer bunch of assholes.

I don't think your going to see that big of a rush. What attracts a lot of
people to CB is price. I don't want to spend a ton of money on ham gear and
I don't have the time to build it. I think all that will happen is that the
lower portion of 10 meters will get the traffic with all of the "export"
radios in circulation.

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:14:01 -0500, "DrDeath"
wrote:

That's absolute bull****. I build and modify my own CB equipment.

Then you are unashamedly breaking the law.


Yep.