ny cops say its illegal to have these ham radio repater frequencies
programmed into your ham radio mobile since they are frequencies
assigned to the police by the fcc and if the ny police find your radio
can transmit on these frequencies youre in deep

In article
,
radioguy wrote:

ny cops say its illegal to have these ham radio repater frequencies
programmed into your ham radio mobile since they are frequencies
assigned to the police by the fcc and if the ny police find your radio
can transmit on these frequencies youre in deep doodoo for posessing
a radio which can illegally transmit on the police frequencies of
421.2500 mhz & 426.2500 mz. 421.2500mhz tompk ara cortland ny &
arast Corning, ny 426.2500 mhz scarc Pittsburgh Pa among others.

You are so screwed up, when it comes to US Radio Law, you wouldn't know
the REAL FACTS, if they bit you in the Arse....

First Off: What Cops, are saying WHAT, about which Frequencies?
Be VERY specific....
Second Off: It would be VERY hard to a local prosecutor to try
such a case, even in a local Court, KNOWING that
it would likely be overturned in the first Federal
Court where the case landed.
Third Off: Local Cops, and even State Cops, do not have jurisdiction
in the enforcement of FEDERAL Laws, and should they try,
the local Federal Marshal would slap them down in a
nanosecond. That is HIS Job.
Fourth Off: Cops can, and do, say a lot of stuff, about which they have
NO CLUE, just like YOU do. Just because some local IDIOT
LEO says something, does NOT make it True, or in fact
Legally, the LAW. I have testified in MANY Courts of Law
on just these kinds of issues, and mostly the local LEO
has it WRONG, and the IDIOT Prosecutor, gets his hands
slapped by the local Judge, once the correct FEDERAL
Statutes, are introduced into Evidence, if it ever
actually gets that far, in the first place.....
I mean REALLY... Duh....


Just Say'en...... YMMV.....

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:38:57 -0900, you wrote:

In article
,
radioguy wrote:

ny cops say its illegal to have these ham radio repater frequencies
programmed into your ham radio mobile since they are frequencies
assigned to the police by the fcc and if the ny police find your radio
can transmit on these frequencies youre in deep doodoo for posessing
a radio which can illegally transmit on the police frequencies of
421.2500 mhz & 426.2500 mz. 421.2500mhz tompk ara cortland ny &
arast Corning, ny 426.2500 mhz scarc Pittsburgh Pa among others.

You are so screwed up, when it comes to US Radio Law, you wouldn't know
the REAL FACTS, if they bit you in the Arse....

First Off: What Cops, are saying WHAT, about which Frequencies?
Be VERY specific....
Second Off: It would be VERY hard to a local prosecutor to try
such a case, even in a local Court, KNOWING that
it would likely be overturned in the first Federal
Court where the case landed.
Third Off: Local Cops, and even State Cops, do not have jurisdiction
in the enforcement of FEDERAL Laws, and should they try,
the local Federal Marshal would slap them down in a
nanosecond. That is HIS Job.
Fourth Off: Cops can, and do, say a lot of stuff, about which they have
NO CLUE, just like YOU do. Just because some local IDIOT
LEO says something, does NOT make it True, or in fact
Legally, the LAW. I have testified in MANY Courts of Law
on just these kinds of issues, and mostly the local LEO
has it WRONG, and the IDIOT Prosecutor, gets his hands
slapped by the local Judge, once the correct FEDERAL
Statutes, are introduced into Evidence, if it ever
actually gets that far, in the first place.....
I mean REALLY... Duh....


Just Say'en...... YMMV.....

first off, radioguy is a frickin ignorant asswipe,
second off, local cops enforce federal law every day of the year.
e.g., a convicted felon is found with a gun. that's a federal law.
when sworn in they take oaths to "uphold the laws of the United States and
the US Constitution....".

US marshalls rarely deal with cops who enforce the law.

Read the constitution. You will find that sheriffs are the law.
It's only when you have assholes like Eric Holder running the country do
you hear them whining about local cops enforcing federal law.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:50:08 -0500, richard
wrote:

first off, radioguy is a frickin ignorant asswipe,

What did ignorant ass wipes do to you that they should have RG
lumped in with them?

second off, local cops enforce federal law every day of the year.
e.g., a convicted felon is found with a gun. that's a federal law.

The law prohibiting the constructive possession of a fire arm for
convicted felons is the law in many, if not all, states.

when sworn in they take oaths to "uphold the laws of the United States and
the US Constitution....".

US marshalls rarely deal with cops who enforce the law.


If they need to, they can and do.

Read the constitution. You will find that sheriffs are the law.

Where does it hold this to be the case?

It's only when you have assholes like Eric Holder running the country do
you hear them whining about local cops enforcing federal law.

And he does whine.

--
Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate.

I'm confused.
The public service bands are either above or below the amateur bands.
The police - unless they are licensed amateur radio operators - are not allowed to use the amateur radio bands, nor is a amateur radio operator allowed to operate on the public service bands with a part 97 type approved radio.

If you polled 100 State or local police officers, 99 of them wouldn't even know how to turn my radio on and 99 of them wouldn't even be able to edit the frequencies programmed into my radio to even know what pl's and other information was stored in my radio.

POLE ICE by nature, doesn't have to have a license to operate on the public service bands, because they are licensed by the FCC to operate on the public service bands. But, they cannot go on the Amateur Radio Frequencies unless they have a license - for each cop and a call sign - for each cop.
It's ILLEGAL to give licenses to anyone.
You have to pass a test and earn a amateur radio license.

The TWO METERS is nothing but the kindergarten of amateur radio anyways.
Get a General Class License and come on up and play with the big boys on the HF little man.

In article ,
richard wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:38:57 -0900, you wrote:

In article
,
radioguy wrote:

ny cops say its illegal to have these ham radio repater frequencies
programmed into your ham radio mobile since they are frequencies
assigned to the police by the fcc and if the ny police find your radio
can transmit on these frequencies youre in deep doodoo for posessing
a radio which can illegally transmit on the police frequencies of
421.2500 mhz & 426.2500 mz. 421.2500mhz tompk ara cortland ny &
arast Corning, ny 426.2500 mhz scarc Pittsburgh Pa among others.

You are so screwed up, when it comes to US Radio Law, you wouldn't know
the REAL FACTS, if they bit you in the Arse....

First Off: What Cops, are saying WHAT, about which Frequencies?
Be VERY specific....
Second Off: It would be VERY hard to a local prosecutor to try
such a case, even in a local Court, KNOWING that
it would likely be overturned in the first Federal
Court where the case landed.
Third Off: Local Cops, and even State Cops, do not have jurisdiction
in the enforcement of FEDERAL Laws, and should they try,
the local Federal Marshal would slap them down in a
nanosecond. That is HIS Job.
Fourth Off: Cops can, and do, say a lot of stuff, about which they have
NO CLUE, just like YOU do. Just because some local IDIOT
LEO says something, does NOT make it True, or in fact
Legally, the LAW. I have testified in MANY Courts of Law
on just these kinds of issues, and mostly the local LEO
has it WRONG, and the IDIOT Prosecutor, gets his hands
slapped by the local Judge, once the correct FEDERAL
Statutes, are introduced into Evidence, if it ever
actually gets that far, in the first place.....
I mean REALLY... Duh....


Just Say'en...... YMMV.....

first off, radioguy is a frickin ignorant asswipe,
second off, local cops enforce federal law every day of the year.
e.g., a convicted felon is found with a gun. that's a federal law.
when sworn in they take oaths to "uphold the laws of the United States and
the US Constitution....".

Local and State Cops Do NOT enforce Federal Law... They enforce State
Law... What you cite is cases where BOTH State and Federal Statutes
prohibit a convicted Felon from possessing a Firearm, and the local or
State cops are enforcing the State Statutes, NOT the Federal One.


US marshals rarely deal with cops who enforce the law.

apparently you have never dealt with a US Marshal... I have, many times,
as a Resident Field Agent for the FCC, reTIRED... and know exactly of
what I speak..... When on land, the US Marshal provides any muscle needed
for ALL Federal Agencies that do not have Police Powers, inherent in
their founding Statutes. On the water, it is the USCG, that provides the
enforcement function, for any Federal agency, that doesn't have Police
Powers. Nobody messes with a Federal Marshal. Their Police Powers are
valid anywhere inside US Territory, Period... including Military Bases.
The USCG has those same Police Powers on ANY navigable body of water,
for US flagged Vessels, as well as foreign vessels inside US Territorial
waters, PERIOD... No one messes with a USCG Boarding Party, either...

Just Say'en.....

Read the constitution. You will find that sheriffs are the law.
It's only when you have assholes like Eric Holder running the country do
you hear them whining about local cops enforcing federal law.

"Channel Jumper" wrote in message
...

I'm confused.
The public service bands are either above or below the amateur bands.
The police - unless they are licensed amateur radio operators - are not
allowed to use the amateur radio bands, nor is a amateur radio operator
allowed to operate on the public service bands with a part 97 type
approved radio.

If you polled 100 State or local police officers, 99 of them wouldn't
even know how to turn my radio on and 99 of them wouldn't even be able
to edit the frequencies programmed into my radio to even know what pl's
and other information was stored in my radio.

POLE ICE by nature, doesn't have to have a license to operate on the
public service bands, because they are licensed by the FCC to operate on
the public service bands. But, they cannot go on the Amateur Radio
Frequencies unless they have a license - for each cop and a call sign -
for each cop.
It's ILLEGAL to give licenses to anyone.
You have to pass a test and earn a amateur radio license.

The TWO METERS is nothing but the kindergarten of amateur radio
anyways.
Get a General Class License and come on up and play with the big boys on
the HF little man.




--
Channel Jumper

Um...Guys...

The low end of the 420-450 amateur band IS being used by police, fire,
business, etc in border areas. I have a tower in Colden, NY where one
lives...

I give you example WPMF670
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...ewWindow=false

There are about 40 of these in just Erie County, NY

The rules pertaining to use of 421-430 mhz by other then amateur radio
47CFR90.273"
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...7cfr90.273.htm

Detroit, Cleveland, and Buffalo are the areas its possible

GeorgeC
W2DB