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Old July 10th 03, 05:16 PM
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Default NEAR Midair in SEALORD area, pilots are $issed!

At about noon today I was doing some searching. Happened to get a hit on
273.0000, appears to be a TOPCAT a/a freq. While there, they couldn’t
believe their eyes, they had a MULLER (S-3) aircraft coming straight at
them and miss the flight of three TOPCATs by only 100 feet.

The TOPCAT pilot is a bit ticked off, then comes up on 267.5000 (SEALORD
Control) telling SEALORD of the near miss. He asks SEALORD if they ever
seen the aircraft on radar (couldn’t copy SEALORDS response). The
TOPCAT pilot then informs SEALORD about the 100’ near miss and demands a
telephone number for SEALORD. A few minutes later the TOPCAT pilot says
“screw this guy I’ll call him from the ground” right on the SEALORD
control freq for SEALORD to hear….. They then switch to 341.0000 and
273.0000.

The SEALORD areas are off the FL & GA Atlantic coasts.

Needless to say I’m sure some $$it will hit the fan when they land….I’ll
take this over police/fire listening anyday…..

George
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Old July 11th 03, 06:10 AM
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You heard any more about it?

What's a MULLER S-3? one of those little transports they use to go to
carriers?

GeorgeF wrote:
At about noon today I was doing some searching. Happened to get a hit on
273.0000, appears to be a TOPCAT a/a freq. While there, they couldn’t
believe their eyes, they had a MULLER (S-3) aircraft coming straight at
them and miss the flight of three TOPCATs by only 100 feet.

The TOPCAT pilot is a bit ticked off, then comes up on 267.5000 (SEALORD
Control) telling SEALORD of the near miss. He asks SEALORD if they ever
seen the aircraft on radar (couldn’t copy SEALORDS response). The
TOPCAT pilot then informs SEALORD about the 100’ near miss and demands a
telephone number for SEALORD. A few minutes later the TOPCAT pilot says
“screw this guy I’ll call him from the ground” right on the SEALORD
control freq for SEALORD to hear….. They then switch to 341.0000 and
273.0000.

The SEALORD areas are off the FL & GA Atlantic coasts.

Needless to say I’m sure some $$it will hit the fan when they land….I’ll
take this over police/fire listening anyday…..

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com



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Old July 11th 03, 12:39 PM
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"GeorgeF" wrote

Carrier based yes, however they can do more than just a little cargo,
they do drop bombs. In fact they do a lot of bombing at our local range
about 25 miles West of me.


Avon Park? Used ta go out there for training from MacDill; heard my
first Warthog unload that big autocannon there - frigging amazing sound that
is, especially at night, when it's dead quiet, and you don't have a _clue_
as to what's happening, hehehe.




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GeorgeF wrote:

Carrier based yes, however they can do more than just a little cargo,
they do drop bombs. In fact they do a lot of bombing at our local range
about 25 miles West of me.

I believe its a S-3 which Bush was in that landed on the Carrier a few
months ago.

George
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YUP, Bush was in one. They have them setup three ways I think,
passenger, AWAC and anti sub patrol.


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Old July 11th 03, 03:20 PM
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I am wrong George, I was thinking of the S-2.

The S-3 is new to me.

Burr



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Old July 11th 03, 03:24 PM
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OK George I'm confused, I know what a Tomcat is, i.e. an F-14 whats a
Topcat???

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At about noon today I was doing some searching. Happened to get a hit on
273.0000, appears to be a TOPCAT a/a freq. While there, they couldn’t
believe their eyes, they had a MULLER (S-3) aircraft coming straight at
them and miss the flight of three TOPCATs by only 100 feet.

The TOPCAT pilot is a bit ticked off, then comes up on 267.5000 (SEALORD
Control) telling SEALORD of the near miss. He asks SEALORD if they ever
seen the aircraft on radar (couldn’t copy SEALORDS response). The
TOPCAT pilot then informs SEALORD about the 100’ near miss and demands a
telephone number for SEALORD. A few minutes later the TOPCAT pilot says
“screw this guy I’ll call him from the ground” right on the SEALORD
control freq for SEALORD to hear….. They then switch to 341.0000 and
273.0000.

The SEALORD areas are off the FL & GA Atlantic coasts.

Needless to say I’m sure some $$it will hit the fan when they land….I’ll
take this over police/fire listening anyday…..

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com






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Old July 11th 03, 04:25 PM
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Are we flying a cap over America at this time?

If we are flying it on the west coast do you have the fregs?

Are we flying AWACS and scrambling when needed?

Burr

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Old July 11th 03, 04:41 PM
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That Other George wrote:
OK George I'm confused, I know what a Tomcat is, i.e. an F-14 whats a
Topcat???


Its really TOPCAT. The callsign used by the aircraft was TOPCAT 1.


Wouldn't that call be the squadron CO?


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Old July 11th 03, 05:09 PM
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Over the 4th of July weekend there were three evenings in a row where we
had CAP flights over Florida. Gotta keep MickyMouse safe, no joke as
that's primary rason for CAP Flights here. Added was the Daytona Pepsi
400 NASCAR race and during the race the CAP flights extended their
pattern inorder to have a birds eye view of the race from about 23,000'.

I don't know what's happening on the West coast. However in the past I
have received reports of CAP freqs for Westcoast areas. They can be
found he http://www.milaircomms.com/uhf_cap.html

As far as using AWACS that is a question I don't know the answer to.
However my first thought would be that it would be ATC (Air Traffic
Control) would see the first hint of trouble. ATC then would aleart
NORAD. CAP flights are in direct radio comms with NORAD, here in the
Southeast NORAD's callsign is OAKGROVE. NORAD would then either scrable
jets or inform CAP mission jets already airborn to intercept the problem
aircraft.

This is what happened on 9/11 and would have worked only if we already
had jets in the air. The problem was the US left down it guard and all
our jets (which were armed) sitting on the ground. Kinda like getting
caught with our pants down....

Some people say that CAP flights are a not needed, ware out pilots and
equipment, and waste money. However I ask this question, isn't the job
of the US military to product and defend the United States? Which
would you rather have, Jets in the air as a first line of defense or
John Asscroft putting more restrictions on US Citizens.

Ok, off my soap box,
George
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Burr wrote:
Are we flying a cap over America at this time?

If we are flying it on the west coast do you have the fregs?

Are we flying AWACS and scrambling when needed?

Burr



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Old July 11th 03, 07:26 PM
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Thank You George,
Very good info, I'll play with it when I get time.

Burr

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