These Clear Channel Radio Stations have been doing
shows about running cycles down and throwing bottles at them
in three cities.
I have wrote the FCC and the CEO of CC and got nice
letters back just before they did it again. I just wrote the
LA Times, WSJ and the local Ridgecrest papers.

Any help you'll would give us with letters to papers, FCC
and sponsors as well as the stations.

Burr


Wednesday, October 1, 2003 6:14AM EDT
Radio host infuriates cyclists


By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he
just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at
stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the
idea of throwing bottles at bikers.

It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle.
This week they are lobbying government officials and local
advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and
its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to
promote bicycle safety.

"One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the
road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going,"
said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of
the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob
thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it
down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be
allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the
sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined
two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the
radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and
Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the
broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that
it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North
Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in
North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line?
What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting
or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide
tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a
Capital Area transportation planning committee that
discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who
complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison
" show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ...
that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some
comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely
apologize. ...

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists,"
he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the
past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating
violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at
WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and
September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast
"share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety
campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said
would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle
bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a
detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom
inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the
past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications
Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105
sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have
sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the
radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan.
"To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a
different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's
not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill,
took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar
of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith
cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on
G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm
tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to
exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming
down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased
him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him
into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike.
Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July
2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll
in an anger management program.


Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or
.

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:20:50 GMT, Burr in rec.radio.scanner - :

These Clear Channel Radio Stations have been doing
shows about running cycles down and throwing bottles at them
in three cities.

LOL. I wish the ten clear channel stations
in my market would jump on the band wagon.

I have wrote the FCC and the CEO of CC and got nice
letters back just before they did it again. I just wrote the
LA Times, WSJ and the local Ridgecrest papers.

Any help you'll would give us with letters to papers, FCC
and sponsors as well as the stations.

Sorry, but you bike people need to get off the road, and
stop wearing those silly uniforms. If not, you might as
well paint a big red bullseye on your back.

Us rollerbladers know how to live with the cars, I suggest
you take the hint and get off your high horse. The road
belongs to motor vehicles.

funny story unmodified for the new readers benefit.

Wednesday, October 1, 2003 6:14AM EDT
Radio host infuriates cyclists


By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he
just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at
stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the
idea of throwing bottles at bikers.

It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle.
This week they are lobbying government officials and local
advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and
its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to
promote bicycle safety.

"One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the
road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going,"
said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of
the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob
thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it
down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be
allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the
sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined
two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the
radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and
Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the
broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that
it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North
Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in
North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line?
What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting
or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide
tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a
Capital Area transportation planning committee that
discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who
complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison
" show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ...
that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some
comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely
apologize. ...

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists,"
he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the
past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating
violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at
WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and
September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast
"share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety
campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said
would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle
bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a
detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom
inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the
past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications
Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105
sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have
sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the
radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan.
"To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a
different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's
not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill,
took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar
of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith
cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on
G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm
tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to
exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming
down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased
him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him
into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike.
Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July
2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll
in an anger management program.


Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or
.

Running cycles down is attempted murder.

Throwing bottles at riders is assault with a deadly weapon.

LETHAL FORCE is justified to thwart such attacks.


wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:20:50 GMT, Burr in
rec.radio.scanner - :

These Clear Channel Radio Stations have been doing
shows about running cycles down and throwing bottles at them
in three cities.

LOL. I wish the ten clear channel stations
in my market would jump on the band wagon.

I have wrote the FCC and the CEO of CC and got nice
letters back just before they did it again. I just wrote the
LA Times, WSJ and the local Ridgecrest papers.

Any help you'll would give us with letters to papers, FCC
and sponsors as well as the stations.

Sorry, but you bike people need to get off the road, and
stop wearing those silly uniforms. If not, you might as
well paint a big red bullseye on your back.

Us rollerbladers know how to live with the cars, I suggest
you take the hint and get off your high horse. The road
belongs to motor vehicles.

funny story unmodified for the new readers benefit.

Wednesday, October 1, 2003 6:14AM EDT
Radio host infuriates cyclists


By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he
just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at
stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the
idea of throwing bottles at bikers.

It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle.
This week they are lobbying government officials and local
advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and
its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to
promote bicycle safety.

"One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the
road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going,"
said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of
the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob
thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it
down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be
allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the
sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined
two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the
radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and
Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the
broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that
it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North
Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in
North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line?
What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting
or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide
tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a
Capital Area transportation planning committee that
discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who
complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison
" show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ...
that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some
comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely
apologize. ...

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists,"
he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the
past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating
violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at
WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and
September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast
"share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety
campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said
would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle
bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a
detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom
inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the
past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications
Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105
sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have
sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the
radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan.
"To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a
different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's
not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill,
took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar
of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith
cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on
G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm
tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to
exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming
down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased
him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him
into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike.
Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July
2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll
in an anger management program.


Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or
.

...

^ The road belongs to motor vehicles.

Not true. In the U.S. it is a privilege to drive a motor vehicle but walking
is a right. Before motor vehicles everyone either walked or used horses in
some manner. If you do not wish to use motorized transportation then you
still have the right to move about the country by other means. In most cases
the only way to get from one place to another is via a public highway.
Pedestrians and bicycles have a right to use public highways, for motor
vehicles that use is only a privilege.

Frank

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:14:29 -0400, "HEY MOE!" in rec.radio.scanner - :

Running cycles down is attempted murder.

Throwing bottles at riders is assault with a deadly weapon.

LETHAL FORCE is justified to thwart such attacks.

There you go, pull out your gun and open fire on the motorist
honking their horn at you to get the hell out of the road!

That will help your plight!

Perhaps after a few incidences like that, the law makers will
get off their asses and pass some legislation to get you
morons OFF the road and ON the sidewalk where you belong.





wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 02:20:50 GMT, Burr in
rec.radio.scanner - :

These Clear Channel Radio Stations have been doing
shows about running cycles down and throwing bottles at them
in three cities.

LOL. I wish the ten clear channel stations
in my market would jump on the band wagon.

I have wrote the FCC and the CEO of CC and got nice
letters back just before they did it again. I just wrote the
LA Times, WSJ and the local Ridgecrest papers.

Any help you'll would give us with letters to papers, FCC
and sponsors as well as the stations.

Sorry, but you bike people need to get off the road, and
stop wearing those silly uniforms. If not, you might as
well paint a big red bullseye on your back.

Us rollerbladers know how to live with the cars, I suggest
you take the hint and get off your high horse. The road
belongs to motor vehicles.

funny story unmodified for the new readers benefit.

Wednesday, October 1, 2003 6:14AM EDT
Radio host infuriates cyclists


By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he
just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at
stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the
idea of throwing bottles at bikers.

It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle.
This week they are lobbying government officials and local
advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and
its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to
promote bicycle safety.

"One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the
road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going,"
said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of
the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob
thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it
down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be
allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the
sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined
two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the
radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and
Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the
broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that
it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North
Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in
North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line?
What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting
or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide
tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a
Capital Area transportation planning committee that
discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who
complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison
" show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ...
that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some
comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely
apologize. ...

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists,"
he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the
past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating
violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at
WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and
September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast
"share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety
campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said
would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle
bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a
detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom
inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the
past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications
Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105
sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have
sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the
radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan.
"To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a
different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's
not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill,
took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar
of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith
cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on
G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm
tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to
exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming
down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased
him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him
into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike.
Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July
2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll
in an anger management program.


Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or
.

A note to all you Lance Armstrong wannabee's. Stay the heck off the road
with your pointy helmets and Speedo's during rush hour and you will not
cause the rest of us normally sane people to go insane.

(Loading bottle rack and looking for pointy helmets)

"Burr" wrote in message
...
These Clear Channel Radio Stations have been doing
shows about running cycles down and throwing bottles at them
in three cities.

...

^ Perhaps after a few incidences like that, the law makers will
^ ... pass some legislation to get you ... OFF the road and ON
^ the sidewalk where you belong.

Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk, and in many cities it is unlawful to
ride them there. Everywhere I've been bicycles belong on the road and are
required to follow motor vehicle laws.

Frank

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:30:47 -0000, "Frank" in rec.radio.scanner - 01c3894d$f475bdf0$0125250a@nhnluyjvlzevaupj :

...

^ Perhaps after a few incidences like that, the law makers will
^ ... pass some legislation to get you ... OFF the road and ON
^ the sidewalk where you belong.

Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk, and in many cities it is unlawful to
ride them there. Everywhere I've been bicycles belong on the road and are
required to follow motor vehicle laws.



They certainly belong on the sidewalk since they can't even come close
to the legal speed limit. Why do you think everyone hates them?
It's not because they look stupid, it's because they seem to enjoy
causing unsafe conditions on the roads!

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:14:29 -0400, "HEY MOE!" in
rec.radio.scanner - :

Running cycles down is attempted murder.

Throwing bottles at riders is assault with a deadly weapon.

LETHAL FORCE is justified to thwart such attacks.

There you go, pull out your gun and open fire on the motorist
honking their horn at you to get the hell out of the road!

That will help your plight!

Perhaps after a few incidences like that, the law makers will
get off their asses and pass some legislation to get you
morons OFF the road and ON the sidewalk where you belong.

In many areas around here, Bicycle riding on the sidewalks is "NOT"
permitted. When I was a young man, the rules for riding bicycles were taught
to use ON THE ROAD! Riding "with" traffic for one thing, on the side of the
road, having a mirror for viewing what is behind you, and so on. Even taught
turn signals by hand.. Those rules aren't taught anymore, like so many
things that aren't taught and should be. THAT is a large part of the
problem, NO ONE CARES! In some cities, at least the ones I know of and have
been to, the pedestrians wouldn't have a chance with the cycles on the
sidewalks. Especially the elderly and handicapped. The rules of the road
apply to all who use them, EVERY ONE must pay attention and exercise care.
Sadly, this isn't the case. It is every man for himself anymore. ROAD
RAGE!!!!!

Hitting people "intentionally" on a bicycle IS attempted murder at the
least. You have to be a kook to even applaud such and action. Maybe that is
one of your kids or relatives one day. It always comes back home, you
know.....

For that D.J. to suggest such a thing, he was an ass to say the least.. Our
CC stations here do some wild stuff, but NOTHING to condone injuring others.
Matter of fact, they look down on those things. So it isn't CC doing it,
it's the idiots they have at that particular station.

Lou

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:30:47 -0000, "Frank"
in rec.radio.scanner -
01c3894d$f475bdf0$0125250a@nhnluyjvlzevaupj :

...

^ Perhaps after a few incidences like that, the law makers will
^ ... pass some legislation to get you ... OFF the road and ON
^ the sidewalk where you belong.

Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk, and in many cities it is unlawful
to
ride them there. Everywhere I've been bicycles belong on the road and are
required to follow motor vehicle laws.



They certainly belong on the sidewalk since they can't even come close
to the legal speed limit. Why do you think everyone hates them?
It's not because they look stupid, it's because they seem to enjoy
causing unsafe conditions on the roads!



Man you must have had a rotten childhood... to suggest such a thing.. The
man is RIGHT.. THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THE SIDEWALK! THEY ARE TO FOLLOW
THE RULES OF THE ROAD AS ALL OTHER USERS. YOU MUST SUFFER FROM ROAD RAGE.
WOULD LOVE TO RIDE BEHIND YOU FOR A DAY TO WATCH YOUR HABITS. I BET THEY
WOULD SHOCK MOST.