I'm about to purchase a Uniden digital scanner but I understand some police
and fire departments can block their calls from being received on a digital
scanner. Anyone know if this is true? How can you get around that?


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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:45:38 -0600, in
, Charles Duncan wrote:

I'm about to purchase a Uniden digital scanner but I understand some police
and fire departments can block their calls from being received on a digital
scanner. Anyone know if this is true? How can you get around that?

Encryption is present on some channels of the department I work for. Mostly
just the channels the narcotics folks use but I'm sure it'd be just a simple
programming job to place that on other channels.

I do know that we're able to switch the dispatch part of the channel over to
digital which stops folks from hearing us on a scanner (at least until the
EDACS ones come out). I used it last night when some officers were going up
to a house to look for a homicide suspect. I didn't want to chance they
might have a scanner in their house and hear me dispatch officers to their
address.

Dave
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I rode with a sheriff last week for a story I am covering. We discussed
scanners and how the police had to outwit the crooks.

When I asked him point blank, how many crooks had he caught that had
scanners, he could not remember a single time.

I would be interested in hearing of
any cases that crooks were caught with scanners. Do not send me anecdotal
evidence. "My brother in law heard from his second cousin that somewhere up
north..."

While I am sure that a crook somewhere did use a scanner, I would like to
quantify the reality. What was the crook charged? How was he using the
scanner etc. would be extremely helpful.

Fred Hambrecht Sr
Gilbert News
Gilbert, SC

http://gilbertnews.net

"David Casey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:45:38 -0600, in
, Charles Duncan wrote:

I'm about to purchase a Uniden digital scanner but I understand some
police
and fire departments can block their calls from being received on a
digital
scanner. Anyone know if this is true? How can you get around that?

Encryption is present on some channels of the department I work for.
Mostly
just the channels the narcotics folks use but I'm sure it'd be just a
simple
programming job to place that on other channels.

I do know that we're able to switch the dispatch part of the channel over
to
digital which stops folks from hearing us on a scanner (at least until the
EDACS ones come out). I used it last night when some officers were going
up
to a house to look for a homicide suspect. I didn't want to chance they
might have a scanner in their house and hear me dispatch officers to their
address.

Dave
--
You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us!
US Army Signal Corps!!

http://www.geocities.com/davidcasey98
Added Patriot live fire pics from June 2002,
Bosque fire pics from June 2003, CQB training
pics from October 2003, FTX pics from October 2000,
NBC training pics from September 2000, and
Dining Out pics from October 2000!

Criminals can't afford todays expensive scanners...only us working people!

Bill Crocker


"w4jle" W4JLE(remove this to wrote in message
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I rode with a sheriff last week for a story I am covering. We discussed
scanners and how the police had to outwit the crooks.

When I asked him point blank, how many crooks had he caught that had
scanners, he could not remember a single time.

I would be interested in hearing of
any cases that crooks were caught with scanners. Do not send me anecdotal
evidence. "My brother in law heard from his second cousin that somewhere
up
north..."

While I am sure that a crook somewhere did use a scanner, I would like to
quantify the reality. What was the crook charged? How was he using the
scanner etc. would be extremely helpful.

Fred Hambrecht Sr
Gilbert News
Gilbert, SC

http://gilbertnews.net

"David Casey" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:45:38 -0600, in
, Charles Duncan wrote:

I'm about to purchase a Uniden digital scanner but I understand some
police
and fire departments can block their calls from being received on a
digital
scanner. Anyone know if this is true? How can you get around that?

Encryption is present on some channels of the department I work for.
Mostly
just the channels the narcotics folks use but I'm sure it'd be just a
simple
programming job to place that on other channels.

I do know that we're able to switch the dispatch part of the channel
over
to
digital which stops folks from hearing us on a scanner (at least until
the
EDACS ones come out). I used it last night when some officers were
going
up
to a house to look for a homicide suspect. I didn't want to chance they
might have a scanner in their house and hear me dispatch officers to
their
address.

Dave
--
You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us!
US Army Signal Corps!!

http://www.geocities.com/davidcasey98
Added Patriot live fire pics from June 2002,
Bosque fire pics from June 2003, CQB training
pics from October 2003, FTX pics from October 2000,
NBC training pics from September 2000, and
Dining Out pics from October 2000!

There was a jail break where a officer was killed in TX. The bad guys stored
handheld scanners and batteries from RadioShack, now did they get them
programmed or not I don't know.

"w4jle" W4JLE(remove this to wrote in message
...
I rode with a sheriff last week for a story I am covering. We discussed
scanners and how the police had to outwit the crooks.

When I asked him point blank, how many crooks had he caught that had
scanners, he could not remember a single time.

I would be interested in hearing of
any cases that crooks were caught with scanners. Do not send me anecdotal
evidence. "My brother in law heard from his second cousin that somewhere
up
north..."

While I am sure that a crook somewhere did use a scanner, I would like to
quantify the reality. What was the crook charged? How was he using the
scanner etc. would be extremely helpful.

Fred Hambrecht Sr
Gilbert News
Gilbert, SC

http://gilbertnews.net

"David Casey" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:45:38 -0600, in
, Charles Duncan wrote:

I'm about to purchase a Uniden digital scanner but I understand some
police
and fire departments can block their calls from being received on a
digital
scanner. Anyone know if this is true? How can you get around that?

Encryption is present on some channels of the department I work for.
Mostly
just the channels the narcotics folks use but I'm sure it'd be just a
simple
programming job to place that on other channels.

I do know that we're able to switch the dispatch part of the channel
over
to
digital which stops folks from hearing us on a scanner (at least until
the
EDACS ones come out). I used it last night when some officers were
going
up
to a house to look for a homicide suspect. I didn't want to chance they
might have a scanner in their house and hear me dispatch officers to
their
address.

Dave
--
You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us!
US Army Signal Corps!!

http://www.geocities.com/davidcasey98
Added Patriot live fire pics from June 2002,
Bosque fire pics from June 2003, CQB training
pics from October 2003, FTX pics from October 2000,
NBC training pics from September 2000, and
Dining Out pics from October 2000!

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:34:06 -0500, in
, w4jleremove this to reply wrote:

I rode with a sheriff last week for a story I am covering. We discussed
scanners and how the police had to outwit the crooks.

When I asked him point blank, how many crooks had he caught that had
scanners, he could not remember a single time.

I would be interested in hearing of
any cases that crooks were caught with scanners. Do not send me anecdotal
evidence. "My brother in law heard from his second cousin that somewhere up
north..."

While I am sure that a crook somewhere did use a scanner, I would like to
quantify the reality. What was the crook charged? How was he using the
scanner etc. would be extremely helpful.

I'm not saying all the bad guys use it, but it's better to be safe than
sorry when you're trying to catch someone who is responsible for the deaths
of his wife and 15-month old kid in a fire they set. You never know when
the officers go knocking on that door if the guy inside heard you dispatch
them there and is waiting with a shotgun or took off before they arrived
there.

Dave
--
You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us!
US Army Signal Corps!!

http://www.geocities.com/davidcasey98
Added Patriot live fire pics from June 2002,
Bosque fire pics from June 2003, CQB training
pics from October 2003, FTX pics from October 2000,
NBC training pics from September 2000, and
Dining Out pics from October 2000!

If they use encryption you can decode if you find a member of the department
who is willing to give up the code?

"Never anonymous Bud" wrote in message
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While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', "Charles Duncan"
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I'm about to purchase a Uniden digital scanner but I understand some
police
and fire departments can block their calls from being received on a
digital
scanner. Anyone know if this is true?

No, that's not true.

They can use encryption, which you can't decode, but few do.




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"Charles Duncan" wrote in message
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If they use encryption you can decode if you find a member of the
department
who is willing to give up the code?

Might be unlikely. if the code was given up, the citizens would know where
the cops go for a donut.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:35:25 GMT, in news:NwqNb.14498$wf1.8349@edtnps89,
Paul Keenleyside wrote:

If they use encryption you can decode if you find a member of the
department who is willing to give up the code?

Might be unlikely. if the code was given up, the citizens would know where
the cops go for a donut.

Not to mention that encryption is more than just a "code".

Dave
--
You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us!
US Army Signal Corps!!

http://www.geocities.com/davidcasey98
Added Patriot live fire pics from June 2002,
Bosque fire pics from June 2003, CQB training
pics from October 2003, FTX pics from October 2000,
NBC training pics from September 2000, and
Dining Out pics from October 2000!

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:23:53 -0600, "Charles Duncan"
wrote:

If they use encryption you can decode if you find a member of the department
who is willing to give up the code?

Cops' don't know the code.

It's set by the radio techs with a key loader.

also depends on the system and radio. If you aren't on the "good guy"
list, then your radio won't be recognized by the system and won't
receive decoded messages.

Oh, and not to mention that it's also a FEDERAL FELONY under ECPA.