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My nephew bought a BC142XLT at a tag sale to try out scanning. It
worked for a less than 15 minutes, but then the display went dead and there is just barely a hiss from the speaker no matter where the squelch is set. He brought it to me to try to fix it. I'd like to show him that you can still work on your electronics since this is all through hole construction. My first question is there a schematic out there I can get for free? My next question is does the following troubleshooting information make any sense to anyone? I have opened up the unit and probed around a bit. The 8V regulator is putting out 7.95V which looks good. The electrolytics don't look tired. It looks like the receive section works because I get what sounds like receive audio hiss from the audio noise output pin of the MC3359 FM demodulator chip. It also looks like the audio secion works because when I put my fingers on the input lines and around the circuit I get some feedback and noise from the speaker. I assume the UC1116 is some kind of controller. It looks pretty dead. I probed the keyboard inputs and the ones that are not ground stay at 3.5V. There is no pulsing as I would expect if the controller was scanning the keyboard. The diplay lines are mostly at 6.5V levels with no pulsing I would expect if the display was being scanned. Not a single segment comes on. There is a 390 ohm resistor that looks like it got hot. This drops the input power to about 5.2V. This voltage is present as long as the power is plugged in even if the switch is off. There is a sine wave of 383khz at UC1116 pin 16. There is an interesting circuit that is generating 20V and apparently driven by an LM386 audio amplifier through a multiplier. I thought this might be for the display, but the signal runs to a Harris chip on the RF side of the board. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ted |
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There is some info in the Scanner Repair & Modification Manual. Just happens
to be one at Ebay, item number 5728429712. |
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Ted, I tried to reach you of list but your email is no good. I have a 142
XL here I can meter out any segment you want me to. Write back direct. Ronny K4RJJ "Ted Busky" wrote in message om... My nephew bought a BC142XLT at a tag sale to try out scanning. It worked for a less than 15 minutes, but then the display went dead and there is just barely a hiss from the speaker no matter where the squelch is set. He brought it to me to try to fix it. I'd like to show him that you can still work on your electronics since this is all through hole construction. My first question is there a schematic out there I can get for free? My next question is does the following troubleshooting information make any sense to anyone? I have opened up the unit and probed around a bit. The 8V regulator is putting out 7.95V which looks good. The electrolytics don't look tired. It looks like the receive section works because I get what sounds like receive audio hiss from the audio noise output pin of the MC3359 FM demodulator chip. It also looks like the audio secion works because when I put my fingers on the input lines and around the circuit I get some feedback and noise from the speaker. I assume the UC1116 is some kind of controller. It looks pretty dead. I probed the keyboard inputs and the ones that are not ground stay at 3.5V. There is no pulsing as I would expect if the controller was scanning the keyboard. The diplay lines are mostly at 6.5V levels with no pulsing I would expect if the display was being scanned. Not a single segment comes on. There is a 390 ohm resistor that looks like it got hot. This drops the input power to about 5.2V. This voltage is present as long as the power is plugged in even if the switch is off. There is a sine wave of 383khz at UC1116 pin 16. There is an interesting circuit that is generating 20V and apparently driven by an LM386 audio amplifier through a multiplier. I thought this might be for the display, but the signal runs to a Harris chip on the RF side of the board. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ted |
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I also tried to e-mail him to no avail. I also repaired one at some point.
If memory serves me correct, it was an Electrolytic cap and a zener went bad in the power supply section. In his initial post (as included below) he said "the electrolytics don't look tired." I'm guessing he meant he was looking for them bulging out at the bottom as is "a" sign. Though you may not see the bottom bulging, it isn't the only sign a cap is bad. You have to remove them for testing - if in doubt. They can be leaky or open and you wouldn't know it to "look" at it. If you can't "''test" the cap, then replace it if possible to eliminate it as a cause. Also your method of checking a IC isn't good either. Unless it looks cracked, bubbled - to show actual damage or possible damage - it can be bad with no outward appearance. OR it could be good! You have to check voltages and see what is what. You can't just assume it is bad. An IC needs the "supply" voltage and a ground to start. From there, it needs all the necessary input voltages to work. IF the supply isn't there, the ground or an input and ultimately an output voltage, then something is wrong. NO input voltage chip, no output. No supply voltage, it won't work. Same with ground. IF input but no output, then you can say that part of the chip is shot. Never just assume the chip is bad. That is bad because some of those parts are no longer available. You could end up tossing an otherwise repairable scanner with that assumption. It sounds like "A" section of the power supply was checked, but not all. IF any of the others are bad, could be why the pulses are missing. When I do repairs like that, pulses are not what I look for. I look for what brings the display back and audio. The keyboard pulses will be later when I can see any actions on the display and hear any results. I think you're looking in the wrong area. Concentrate on the "Display" and Audio issues which most likely will be a power supply defect. Does no good to play with the keyboard when it won't show up on the screen! Of the many manuals I have, I thought I had the repair manual here for that unit, but I don't. I've repaired enough radios to be able to have some idea as to condition. I hate working on radios with no schematics, but I've done it and succeeded. It is all in a matter of going about it in an organized manner. Not "assuming". Checking to see what works and doesn't and get an idea as to HOW things are supposed to work. The power supply is a good start in any failure where two or more symptoms appear. Not having the schematic myself, I can't be of more help without the unit. But going on past repairs, I've offered my results. Lou "Ronny Julian" wrote in message ... Ted, I tried to reach you of list but your email is no good. I have a 142 XL here I can meter out any segment you want me to. Write back direct. Ronny K4RJJ "Ted Busky" wrote in message om... My nephew bought a BC142XLT at a tag sale to try out scanning. It worked for a less than 15 minutes, but then the display went dead and there is just barely a hiss from the speaker no matter where the squelch is set. He brought it to me to try to fix it. I'd like to show him that you can still work on your electronics since this is all through hole construction. My first question is there a schematic out there I can get for free? My next question is does the following troubleshooting information make any sense to anyone? I have opened up the unit and probed around a bit. The 8V regulator is putting out 7.95V which looks good. The electrolytics don't look tired. It looks like the receive section works because I get what sounds like receive audio hiss from the audio noise output pin of the MC3359 FM demodulator chip. It also looks like the audio secion works because when I put my fingers on the input lines and around the circuit I get some feedback and noise from the speaker. I assume the UC1116 is some kind of controller. It looks pretty dead. I probed the keyboard inputs and the ones that are not ground stay at 3.5V. There is no pulsing as I would expect if the controller was scanning the keyboard. The diplay lines are mostly at 6.5V levels with no pulsing I would expect if the display was being scanned. Not a single segment comes on. There is a 390 ohm resistor that looks like it got hot. This drops the input power to about 5.2V. This voltage is present as long as the power is plugged in even if the switch is off. There is a sine wave of 383khz at UC1116 pin 16. There is an interesting circuit that is generating 20V and apparently driven by an LM386 audio amplifier through a multiplier. I thought this might be for the display, but the signal runs to a Harris chip on the RF side of the board. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ted |
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